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elleng

(130,126 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 07:57 PM Apr 2013

*All In, Chris Hayes, NOW!

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:56 PM - Edit history (1)

EDIT: after 1/4 mark, STILL discussing Arkansas pipeline spill.
Bernie Sanders guest.
Talked about speaking with local congressman tomorrow.

Subject changing at the half, to ?children/education.

---Student athletes: 'Uncompensated players.'

'Arne Duncan is culpable too.'

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*All In, Chris Hayes, NOW! (Original Post) elleng Apr 2013 OP
k&r limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #1
Watching. NOW! madinmaryland Apr 2013 #2
Leading with footage of the Arkansas oil spill, clearly showing that the oil winter is coming Apr 2013 #3
From what I've read tar sands oil is heavy and gritty. It's really hard to clean up. octoberlib Apr 2013 #4
Guest said its the most difficult to handle. elleng Apr 2013 #5
Thanks; that's what I thought. I know it's a bitch to extract. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #7
I'm loving this show! Excellent. nt octoberlib Apr 2013 #6

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
1. k&r
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:06 PM
Apr 2013

No cable TV but just found a stream and I could watch it online.

5 minutes in and so far so good.

Thanks for the reminder.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
3. Leading with footage of the Arkansas oil spill, clearly showing that the oil
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:11 PM
Apr 2013

is running down the street and into the drainage system. I wonder how good the water treatment plants are there, and how effectively any water treatment plant can deal with this. Anybody know?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
4. From what I've read tar sands oil is heavy and gritty. It's really hard to clean up.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:22 PM
Apr 2013
This week, as Senate Democrats narrowly defeated a renewed—and some say misguided—call to rush construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, residents and officials at the site of the country's largest-ever tar sands oil spill are still reeling nearly two years after the fact. A look at the fallout from that incident in Michigan reveals that a spill of diluted bitumen, the kind from Alberta's tar sands that Keystone would carry, is a far nastier beast than your typical spill of conventional crude. It also shows that cleaning it up can be just as damaging to the environment as the spill itself.

A story this week in the Canadian online magazine The Tyee outlines how, 20 months after a pipe carrying tar sands "dil-bit" burst on the Kalamazoo River near Marshall, residents and local Environmental Protection Agency officials are still struggling to clean up the river.

When conventional crude is spilled into water, it floats on the surface, making the cleanup process a relatively simple matter of skimming and scooping (you might recall images of this from the Deepwater Horizon spill). But bitumen is thick and heavy, and has to be diluted with a noxious chemical cocktail so it can flow in the pipe. When spilled, the dilutant evaporates into the nearby atmosphere; Marshall residents reported nausea, migraines, and burning in the eyes and throat. Meanwhile, the bitumen separates from the dilutant and sinks to the bottom.


http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/03/fallout-kalamazoo-tar-sands-spill-keystone
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