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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 07:34 PM Apr 2013

Remember when GOPers attacked the Obama Administration for warning about white supremacists? Well...

Have you seen these recent attacks on law enforcement officials by white supremacists?

Aryan Brotherhood group is under the microscope in the probe of Texas prosecutors' deaths.

Investigators trying to solve the murders of a North Texas district attorney, his wife and an assistant prosecutor are zeroing in on a local white supremacist prison gang known for brutal retaliations against its own members, running methamphetamine and other drugs outside prison walls and murder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/01/aryan-brotherhood-texas-slayings/2042285/


Suspect in the shooting of Colorado corrections chief Tom Clements was a paroled member of a white supremacist prison gang

(Newser) – The suspect in the shooting of Colorado corrections chief Tom Clements was a paroled member of a white supremacist prison gang, the Denver Post reports. "What's not known is whether this was ordered or a crime of opportunity," says a corrections official. Evan Ebel, a paroled member of a gang called the 211s, was involved in a chase and shootout in Texas yesterday; police are also investigating his possible involvement in the shooting of a pizza-delivery driver.

http://www.newser.com/story/164877/colorado-suspect-was-in-white-supremacist-gang.html


Let's call the GOPers what they are, right wing domestic terrorist enablers:




Republicans Blasted Obama Administration For Warning About Right-Wing Domestic Terrorism

<...>

But when, in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security reported that white supremacy is the US’s biggest threat for domestic terror, it was met with harsh criticism. Conservatives blasted the department for defining terror threats too broadly, instead of focusing on potential Islamic terrorists. Then-House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) was one of those who berated DHS

<...>

The report was titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment,” and it named white supremacists, radical anti-abortionists, and a few “disgruntled veterans” as most susceptible to recruitment by extremist groups, or to harboring resentment that may lead to domestic terrorism. DHS stressed that, during recessions, these threats go up, and law enforcement should be on the lookout for such extremism:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/07/645421/right-wing-extremism/




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Remember when GOPers attacked the Obama Administration for warning about white supremacists? Well... (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 OP
And I remember how they caved to the pressure too. ("Forced" to stop...Oh----kay) abq e streeter Apr 2013 #1
I don't recall that (though it doesn't surprise me) etherealtruth Apr 2013 #2
Those who wish to halt our freedoms, has weapons of war and a trigger finger wanting to be Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #3
Drugs and robberyies are how they have and still are funding their operations. My question is kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #17
A link to an additional article regarding the Ayrian Brotherhood, below Tx4obama Apr 2013 #4
Thanks for the link Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #28
It reminds me of how the NRA lobbyists managed defund the CDC's studies of annabanana Apr 2013 #5
The initial report, from the Justice Dept., randr Apr 2013 #6
+ this interview on Democracy now with an author of the report alp227 Apr 2013 #18
Let's see..we've had the Holocaust Museum shooting, Dr. Tiller SpartanDem Apr 2013 #7
Knoxville Unitarian Universal Church BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #11
I think the Arkansas shooting might have had something to do with a car dealership Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #14
And a narrowly averted one.The guy on his way to the Tides Foundation. abq e streeter Apr 2013 #22
People have also fogotten these cases from the archives... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #30
Bookmark this.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #8
+1,000: GOPers what they are, right wing domestic terrorist enablers... freshwest Apr 2013 #9
I know these racists are out there but seeing that shirt Marie Marie Apr 2013 #21
Yes, one would have thought *someone* might have mentioned it to him, but... freshwest Apr 2013 #23
If someone had pointed out his lack of humanity displayed in that shirt, I doubt Marie Marie Apr 2013 #25
There's no way... Saviolo Apr 2013 #35
The way to add a sarcam icon is to type :sarcasm: into the message box! freshwest Apr 2013 #36
Oh, I know how Saviolo Apr 2013 #37
And sorry, I see you are not new, been here since 2008. My apologies. freshwest Apr 2013 #38
No worries! Saviolo Apr 2013 #41
Don't worry, GOPers / RW think this is all a false flag fabrication to grab their guns or their nuts Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #10
In their dreams, only. Either of those... freshwest Apr 2013 #39
Yes, I do remember that. secondvariety Apr 2013 #12
Shades of when they ignored the Clinton Administration. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #13
True believers libdude Apr 2013 #15
With any luck, the Berlin Expat Apr 2013 #16
s/mix so well with/are/ 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #26
The TeaPubliKlans have long been a white supremacist organization TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #19
The War on Terror jazzimov Apr 2013 #20
It will 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #27
The Deadly Cycle Of The Prison Industrial Complex Initech Apr 2013 #24
And, if I remember correctly NewJeffCT Apr 2013 #29
"One Democrat’s “terrorist” is a Republican’s “freedom fighter.” DallasNE Apr 2013 #31
In a right-wing soused society, domestic right-wing extremist groups are mostly allowed to roam free indepat Apr 2013 #32
Just remember, it's not terrorism if it's not brown. (nt) harmonicon Apr 2013 #33
Duh...it is because the GOP are white supremacists... Swede Atlanta Apr 2013 #34
While overtly racist, the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas' main reason for being these days arely staircase Apr 2013 #40

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
2. I don't recall that (though it doesn't surprise me)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:14 PM
Apr 2013

This "Pillsbury Dough-girl white" woman finds those groups to be the scariest "M-F"ers .... ever.

(in the spirit of disclosure my children are not "white" which heightened my already present revulsion associated with these sub-human creatures)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Those who wish to halt our freedoms, has weapons of war and a trigger finger wanting to be
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:24 PM
Apr 2013

Exercised. It would not surprise me if they are involved in drug trafficking to support their poor work habits. They are terrorist.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
17. Drugs and robberyies are how they have and still are funding their operations. My question is
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

why aren't they and the banksters thrown in the same jail?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
4. A link to an additional article regarding the Ayrian Brotherhood, below
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:43 PM
Apr 2013

Former Prisoner: ‘For-Profit’ Prisons Churning Out Waves Of Violent White Supremacists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101659609

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
5. It reminds me of how the NRA lobbyists managed defund the CDC's studies of
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:43 PM
Apr 2013

gun violence as a health concern.

alp227

(32,006 posts)
18. + this interview on Democracy now with an author of the report
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:15 PM
Apr 2013

Transcript: http://www.democracynow.org/2012/8/9/former_dhs_analyst_daryl_johnson_on

Daryl Johnson was even a Mormon and Republican! He has a new book out. Video:

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
7. Let's see..we've had the Holocaust Museum shooting, Dr. Tiller
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:53 PM
Apr 2013

and the Sikh temple. Any others that people can think of?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
14. I think the Arkansas shooting might have had something to do with a car dealership
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:44 PM
Apr 2013

The suspect, Timothy Dale Johnson, had just quit his job at a Target store in Conway (30 miles from Little Rock) after having written a bunch of weird graffiti on walls in the store. Then he went to the office of the Arkansas Democratic Party in Little Rock and shot its director, Bill Gwatney, whose family owns a few car dealerships in central Arkansas. It was found that Johnson had written Gwatney's name and telephone number on a piece of paper, and had two sets of car keys with the emblems of Gwatney car dealerships. Then the suspect went to a Southern Baptist convention and started shooting again, then fled and was chased by police until he was stopped and killed in a gun battle.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. People have also fogotten these cases from the archives...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

"White girls won't screw me because they're too addicted to black men!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6223895


The original "Black man in the White House is gonna grab my guns!!!!! I better kill some cops until they recognize and uphold my 2a freedoms!" -case
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5390462&mesg_id=5392495

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
21. I know these racists are out there but seeing that shirt
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
Apr 2013

actually makes this white woman's stomach turn. What an awful sentiment to advertise proudly on your back. Sometimes there just are no words...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
23. Yes, one would have thought *someone* might have mentioned it to him, but...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:37 PM
Apr 2013

After seeing Palin's rebel rousing stump speeches, I know a dog whistle when I hear one. I've always avoided people like this. I was pretty freaked by Palin and this last year's insane GOP posse was taking me right back there - to years gone by.

And I love your sig line. It's a good one. By Molly Ivins?

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
25. If someone had pointed out his lack of humanity displayed in that shirt, I doubt
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:44 PM
Apr 2013

that it would have changed his small mind. Me thinks he was mighty proud of that shirt - probably wore it often. My sig line? Not sure where I first saw it but it seemed to match my attitude problem - LOL. An attitude I picked up by seeing that people like this T-shirt wearing hate-monger share this planet with me.

Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
35. There's no way...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:35 PM
Apr 2013

How dare you call anyone in the Tea Party racist? They're just grass roots, dontchaknow? The real racist is the half-black man in the White House.

I hope I don't need to add a sarcasm tag to this. Please make the teahadists go away.

Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
41. No worries!
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:41 AM
Apr 2013

I post very infrequently. I usually don't have a whole lot to say. I've gotten a little noisier lately. Been reading the site forever, though. Seriously miss the Top 10 Conservative Idiots

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,967 posts)
10. Don't worry, GOPers / RW think this is all a false flag fabrication to grab their guns or their nuts
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:02 PM
Apr 2013

... well, to grab something. They weave it all into a bizarre fabric of altered reality until it is so unreal it is complete and utterly fictional.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
13. Shades of when they ignored the Clinton Administration.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:14 PM
Apr 2013

They tried to get the incoming Bush Administration to take the threat of terrorism in general, and OBL in particular, seriously, and the rethugs basically laughed it off. Only people that scare them (the 47%) need to be watched.

libdude

(136 posts)
15. True believers
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:50 PM
Apr 2013

The majority of the various right wing extremists are not merely disgruntled haters living on the fringe of society, they are true believers whether they are Aryan Brotherhood, Ku Klux Klan, Christian Identity, NSWPP, etc. Most are well grounded in their ideology and can fully and intellectually defend beliefs. The government has focused their resources so heavily on the extreme Islamic threat potential that the threat of the extreme right wing has been all but ignored.
It is my opinion that many of these individuals mix so well with the right wing Republican party that the government would just as soon not go too deep as this connection would be exposed.

Berlin Expat

(949 posts)
16. With any luck, the
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:59 PM
Apr 2013

US will avoid another OKC bombing.

But I wouldn't be willing to lay down $$$ on that prognostication; if anything, I'd be willing to wager that something similar to the OKC event will take place in the next 12 months.

Like you said, these folks are well-versed in their ideology, and they've got their finger on the trigger, waiting to make their "Turner Diaries" fantasy come to life.

They're looking forward to it like nothing else.

TheKentuckian

(25,021 posts)
19. The TeaPubliKlans have long been a white supremacist organization
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:32 PM
Apr 2013

So they consider a harsh partisan attack and react as such.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
24. The Deadly Cycle Of The Prison Industrial Complex
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:39 PM
Apr 2013

For profit prisons need prisoners. So they round up petty offenders any way they can. Then those offenders get thrust in a dangerous environment where they get educated about white supremacy. They get bailed and come pissed off. They then get easy access to weapons thanks to the National Rifle Association. That petty offender is now a deadly killer. The PIC has claimed another victim.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
29. And, if I remember correctly
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 02:01 PM
Apr 2013

The report warning about RW terror groups was commissioned under the Bush Administration, but was issued by the Obama administration due to timing - it wasn't finished in time for it to be issued by Team Bush.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
31. "One Democrat’s “terrorist” is a Republican’s “freedom fighter.”
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:21 PM
Apr 2013

That summarized the situation completely - with an overlap assist from the NRA. Culpability is a heavy load to bear.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
32. In a right-wing soused society, domestic right-wing extremist groups are mostly allowed to roam free
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

do their their thing, their stochastic terrorists free to egg on the deranged to act out their hate/anger, but left-wing protesters of Wall Street, greed, avarice, and fraud are often hounded, assaulted, pepper-sprayed, and sometimes arrested: to wit, domestic right-wing extremists are often viewed by big brother and the MSM as patriots while left-wing protesters are viewed as anarchists. Tis one of the infinite joys of living in a right-wing soused society.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
34. Duh...it is because the GOP are white supremacists...
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 06:58 PM
Apr 2013

let's make no bones about it.

The GOP is all about:

(1) Men are supreme...we let a few women into the club just to be you know, modern
(2) White race is supreme...we allow a few asians, blacks, hispanics and others in to be you know, modern
(3) Xtians are AWESOME....we MAY allow a jew or buddhist, etc. in as long as they aren't no muslin (spelling intended) that will tout sharia law... the only people who count are the prosperity gospel xtians...no one else need apply.

This is their view. They don't understand when you combine poverty (downward pressure on average salaries continues for the past 40 years), religious and racial intolerance (GOP strong points) the outcome is likely to be pretty bad.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
40. While overtly racist, the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas' main reason for being these days
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:37 PM
Apr 2013

is the manufacturing and distribution of methamphetamine, not politics.

I believe your point about the DHS report and the rwingers' reaction to it is valid, I just don't think this case fits the scenarios predicted by that report.

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