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Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:33 PM Mar 2013

Environmental war between citizens and legislators brewing in Arkansas.

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:06 AM - Edit history (1)

Twitter and Facebook are on fire with stories from environmental groups and legislators accusing each other of spreading false information since the pipeline burst. I can't confirm it, but I'm told the media is not allowed in the area and Exxon won't allow photography. Please share any pics to any other groups you please to spread the word. AR Rep Tim Griffin and senator Jason Rapert are doing their best to spin things back in favor of XL and changes in state eminent domain laws they've proposed. The citizens here are furious. Waterfowl clean ups are underway. It's a mess and It's being under reported.

This was posted to the OccupyMarines facebook page.


Local fox affiliate coverage of debate
http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story/Political-Rhetoric-Gushes-Following-Mayflower-Oil/G0l-eu760EyWig6KXt19-Q.cspx?rss=315

Rescued bird

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Environmental war between citizens and legislators brewing in Arkansas. (Original Post) Cannikin Mar 2013 OP
Here's a link to a video I just saw here on DU: CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
OMG. I missed that. progressoid Mar 2013 #14
Utilities can be a pain nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #2
The area has been evacuated since Friday. Cannikin Mar 2013 #3
Cleanup will take weeks nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #4
Years, if like Michigan spill. Downwinder Mar 2013 #7
Yup. And it truly s never over nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #8
video of oil flowing through neighborhood here: annabanana Mar 2013 #5
Thanks for posting the video! rightsideout Mar 2013 #11
Thanks, Cannikin for keeping on this! freshwest Mar 2013 #6
Looks like I'll be heading to Little Rock this week. BlueToTheBone Mar 2013 #9
First there was the bird kill in Beebe, Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #13
My money is with the Citizens... Volaris Mar 2013 #10
I didn't think oil transport pipelines were this close to neighborhoods. rightsideout Mar 2013 #12
I'm just relieved that these pipelines are safe and leakproof Orrex Mar 2013 #15
Wouldn't it improve things if those officials who vote for this stuff truedelphi Mar 2013 #16
Would it be better.. tom2255 Mar 2013 #17
I suppose you'd have to ask the 20 families Cannikin Apr 2013 #19
I don't think plastics are a very big percent of oil use. DLnyc Apr 2013 #21
Oh yeah, Lake Conway's safe. NOT! ffr Apr 2013 #18
K&R midnight Apr 2013 #20
mONDAY kICK. . . N/T annabanana Apr 2013 #22
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Utilities can be a pain
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:38 PM
Mar 2013

Here is a trick...homeowners can allow media in, assuming media can get through.

This is one reason I need to get another long glass.

From a public road you can. On company property they can tell you to buzz off. Yup, pretty much been there, done that. (Our local bad guys are the local utility)

Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
3. The area has been evacuated since Friday.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:48 PM
Mar 2013

They haven't been able to tell the residents when they can return to their homes.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. First there was the bird kill in Beebe,
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:58 PM
Mar 2013

then there was the fish kill in the Arkansas River around the same time (January 2011).

Not to mention the earthquakes caused by fracking.

Now this.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
10. My money is with the Citizens...
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:14 PM
Mar 2013

because Exxon can buy all the legislators they want, but there will ALWAYS be more Citizens than Legislators, and Exxon doesn't think the "little people" NEED to bought, just kicked out of the way.

Guess what?

Yep. By Tuesday photo and likely video of this little "oversight" will be plastered all over the Prime-Time Media. If Exxon's PR people were smart, they would all just quit.

If anything can kill Keystone in the minds of American's, it will be this.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
12. I didn't think oil transport pipelines were this close to neighborhoods.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:34 PM
Mar 2013

Of course we have natural gas pipelines running to our house.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
15. I'm just relieved that these pipelines are safe and leakproof
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:29 PM
Mar 2013

Otherwise, just imagine the consequences!

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
16. Wouldn't it improve things if those officials who vote for this stuff
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:44 PM
Mar 2013

Get to occupy the homes that have this happen to them? Maybe they wouldn't be so quick to vote on it if their kids were the ones exposed to these hydrocarbons. (Neurological damage, brain cancer can result from over exposure.)

And don't forget - the State Department just finished up the Environmental Impact statement for the Keystone XL pipeline, stating in the report that there wasn't much of a chance that the pipeline could be detrimental to anyone's health!

Talk about our government being owned by the Corporations! Jeesh!

 

tom2255

(37 posts)
17. Would it be better..
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

if this was a mile under water where nobody could see it to complain about it, and where it would take weeks to get it fixed?


This oil crisis will end just as soon as everybody in america stops buying stuff made from plastic, or produced in factories. If Americans didn't buy every cheap or cool thing in sight, there wouldn't be so much demand for oil.

Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
19. I suppose you'd have to ask the 20 families
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:16 AM
Apr 2013

who have been indefinitely booted from their homes on Easter weekend.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
21. I don't think plastics are a very big percent of oil use.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:39 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=34&t=6

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In 20101, about 191 million barrels of LPG and NGL were used in the United States to make plastic products in the plastic materials and resins industry, equal to about 2.7% of total U.S. petroleum consumption. Of those 191 million barrels, 190 million barrels were used as feedstock and 1 million barrels were consumed as fuel

In addition to petroleum, natural gas is used to manufacture plastic materials and resins. In 2010, about 412 billion cubic feet (Bcf) of natural gas were used to make plastic materials and resins, equal to about 1.7% of total U.S. natural gas consumption. Of the 412 Bcf, 13 Bcf were used as feedstock, and 399 Bcf were burned as fuel.

Electricity is also used to manufacture plastics. In 2010, about 65 billion kilowatt-hours were used, equal to about 1.7% of total U.S. electricity consumption. Only about 1% of the total U.S. petroleum consumed in 2010 was used to generate electricity.
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ffr

(22,669 posts)
18. Oh yeah, Lake Conway's safe. NOT!
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:11 AM
Apr 2013

Rainwater and seepage into the water table will guarantee oil will contaminate the water table and that lake.

I see trees and naturally occurring fields, they belong there. The houses and the oil are not natural and don't belong there. Is that right?

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