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CousinIT

(9,234 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:06 AM Sep 2020

Trump's former spy chief is calling on Congress to create an election oversight commission

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics/dan-coats-election-oversight-commission/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's former director of national intelligence called on Congress to create a commission to "oversee the election," an especially notable proposal from a former senior administration official that comes as the President continues to sow doubt about the integrity of the upcoming contest.

Former DNI Dan Coats outlined the proposed oversight commission in an opinion piece published Thursday in The New York Times in which he wrote that "our democracy's enemies, foreign and domestic, want us to concede in advance that our voting systems are faulty or fraudulent; that sinister conspiracies have distorted the political will of the people," among other things. As a result, Coats wrote, the "most urgent task American leaders face is to ensure that the election's results are accepted as legitimate."

Coats said Congress should "create a supremely high-level bipartisan and nonpartisan commission to oversee the election. This commission would not circumvent existing electoral reporting systems or those that tabulate, evaluate or certify the results. But it would monitor those mechanisms and confirm for the public that the laws and regulations governing them have been scrupulously and expeditiously followed — or that violations have been exposed and dealt with — without political prejudice and without regard to political interests of either party."

Though Coats doesn't take direct aim at Trump in the op-ed, it nonetheless presents a contrast with views espoused by his former boss, who has frequently made unproven claims that American elections are rife with voter fraud, stoking fears that the results might not be recognized as valid by millions of Americans
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Trump's former spy chief is calling on Congress to create an election oversight commission (Original Post) CousinIT Sep 2020 OP
The United Nations should be over-seeing our elections. kentuck Sep 2020 #1
Europe was planning on sending 400 monitors. Due to Covid in the US, the number is now Karadeniz Sep 2020 #16
Dan Coats: As long as REPUBLICANS are doing the "overseeing" . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #2
Coats' goal is to maintain FAITH in our Republic's democratic processes. Laelth Sep 2020 #3
Believe exit polls at every voting location could do more good. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #4
Didn't reThugs eliminate exit polling robbob Sep 2020 #5
I think it was along the lines of " Don't believe what your eyes are seeing " KS Toronado Sep 2020 #8
In previous elections, yes. Mister Ed Sep 2020 #7
Well it would give an accurate picture of in-person voting. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #9
I don't know the answer to this, robbob Sep 2020 #10
Getting confused what your actual question is. First off there are no KS Toronado Sep 2020 #15
No sorry, I was addressing my answer to "mrEd" robbob Sep 2020 #17
Exit polling used to be extremely accurate, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #12
We need a non partisan or GAO division for election oversight with watchdogs a President ... marble falls Sep 2020 #6
A Biden adminstration will be addressing voting issues before the 2022 election. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #11
That's because Biden has nothing to hide or run from. He actually is paying attention to us and ... marble falls Sep 2020 #13
Paper Ballots. No electronic machines. Tommymac Sep 2020 #14

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
1. The United Nations should be over-seeing our elections.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:08 AM
Sep 2020

We are now as reliable as Third World countries.

Karadeniz

(22,486 posts)
16. Europe was planning on sending 400 monitors. Due to Covid in the US, the number is now
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 06:16 PM
Sep 2020

30 and I'm not sure they'll be here in person.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Coats' goal is to maintain FAITH in our Republic's democratic processes.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:34 AM
Sep 2020

I get that, but what if this commission were formed, and it came to the conclusion that Russia did, in fact, significantly alter the outcome of the 2020 election? What could we realistically do about it? Probably nothing. Wouldn’t this commission, then, actually ERODE confidence in our elections? Wouldn’t such a commission actually work against Coats’ stated goal?



-Laelth

robbob

(3,523 posts)
5. Didn't reThugs eliminate exit polling
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

When declared results started contradicting results expected from the exit polling? Or was that just another bad dream I had?

Mister Ed

(5,927 posts)
7. In previous elections, yes.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

But with the massive shift to absentee voting and mail-in voting that's expected this year, I wonder whether polling performed outside the precinct doors could give an accurate picture.

KS Toronado

(17,178 posts)
9. Well it would give an accurate picture of in-person voting.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:48 PM
Sep 2020

Plus some states have restrictive absentee voting laws. Exit polls there would expose cheating.

robbob

(3,523 posts)
10. I don't know the answer to this,
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

but isn’t it possible to know vote results from polling stations vs. mail in ballots, etc? So at least you would know if results from specific polling stations matched expected results from exit polls.

KS Toronado

(17,178 posts)
15. Getting confused what your actual question is. First off there are no
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

" expected results from exit polls ", exit polls are simply a person asking voters when they
are leaving the place they just voted at " Did you vote for tRump or Biden ". Some states
have rules to follow if official results and exit polls vary by more than 2% to determine if
foul play is involved. We all know tRumpie and his cohorts will do everything possible not
to go to jail right after the election. It's up to us Democrats to catch their cheating wherever
we can. Hope this helps, or am I misinformed or overlooking something? I'm not a
STABLE GENIUS.

robbob

(3,523 posts)
17. No sorry, I was addressing my answer to "mrEd"
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 07:33 PM
Sep 2020

Who wondered if exit polling could tell us anything given the large numbers of mail in voting that would happen this year. I was basically agreeing with your observation; if we know what happened at an individual polling station then we would know if the exit polling (ie the “expected result” (based on trends found in the exit polling)) matched up.

I do believe exit polling is used in many countries (I wanted to say “third world countries”, but I don’t know how widespread the practice is) as a way of detecting fraud.

BTW: genius or not, I’m pretty sure you’re more stable then the person who coined that moniker!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
12. Exit polling used to be extremely accurate,
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

but that was before the rise of early voting in many places. For the few states that don't have early voting, well shame on them, but exit polling would be useful but for those states and those states only.

marble falls

(57,055 posts)
6. We need a non partisan or GAO division for election oversight with watchdogs a President ...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:07 PM
Sep 2020

can't have fired.

marble falls

(57,055 posts)
13. That's because Biden has nothing to hide or run from. He actually is paying attention to us and ...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 01:25 PM
Sep 2020

concern and does more than lip service.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
14. Paper Ballots. No electronic machines.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

Yes - it will take longer, but what is more important, speed or accuracy?

Until absolutley secure electronic voting machines can be developed distributed and securely maintained, along the lines of ATM's, the best way to fight election fraud in the 21st century is to go back to 19th century technology.

And get rid of CU too. Get the private money out of elections and they will be more secure too.

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