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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstrump is DANGEROUSLY pushing misinfo about 100 million doses of a Covid vaccine within 6 weeks
Link to tweet
https://nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
This is maddening to see a sitting US president so scared and so threatened that he is pushing incredibly dangerous misinformation and propaganda to help ensure more support in the upcoming election!
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The major manufacturers are all making vaccine at-risk, meaning they are already working to produce at commercial scale, even before they determine whether their vaccine candidate actually works. The goal is to have large amounts available for use as soon as the Food and Drug Administration green-lights a vaccine. If some candidates fail to clear the FDAs bar, that product will be destroyed.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/20/covid19-vaccines-merck-moderna-congress/
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
And, if a vaccine has some efficacy, they really won't know how much it actually is in the field.
You'll have a bunch of people receiving vaccines that are anywhere from 0-40 plus percent effective and walking around as though they are now immune from contracting it--only to subject themselves and their families and others to infection.
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Klaralven
(7,510 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
That's a good visual Venn of this.
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ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)I've heard civil engineers say that for decades in the early phases of a big expansion, or rebuild! (Especially during the estimating phase.)
Also, project managers operate in that way on most capital projects.
So, it's quite pervasive, and they're all totally correct.
We can only have 2 of the three.
lame54
(35,262 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)If that protection were not in place, would vaccine manufacturers be willing to roll out vaccines on such a slight evidence base? Will they make them available to countries that dont offer similar protection against liability?
Thekaspervote
(32,707 posts)Politically to release a vaccine whose safety and efficacy has not been proven- including moderna.
It is SOP for a drug companies to begin some production of a drug or vaccine ahead of time, production costs pennies. That means nothing as to when it will be released
Moderna also said said maybe ...it will have results of phase 3 by thanksgiving. That is not a vaccine ready for use.
https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-phase-3-clinical-trial-2020-7
tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)testing for crying out loud. But we are going to be effective at getting millions vaccinated under these bumbling idiots?
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)https://pharmaceuticalcommerce.com/cold-chain-focus/now-freezer-farms-for-potential-covid-19-vaccine-delivery/
underpants
(182,624 posts)The vehicles still are problematic
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)Nobody distributes like Trump...
cwydro
(51,308 posts)There's nothing he could say about anything that I'd believe.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ZERO trust
underpants
(182,624 posts)and really should be. I mean its not like facts or not wanting to get caught lying ever holds them back.
Get the message out that they do have a vaccine. The cult will repeat ANYTHING they are told.
Im surprised Im not seeing more of it.