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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:10 PM Sep 2020

trump is DANGEROUSLY pushing misinfo about 100 million doses of a Covid vaccine within 6 weeks



is spreading false and dangerous information. NO vaccine in the US has passed Phase 3 trials. To have 100 million doses ready in the next 6 weeks is beyond irresponsible and dangerous!

https://nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html


This is maddening to see a sitting US president so scared and so threatened that he is pushing incredibly dangerous misinformation and propaganda to help ensure more support in the upcoming election!
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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
1. The leading manufacturers have been given $billions to begin high volume manufacturing
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:21 PM
Sep 2020

The major manufacturers are all making vaccine “at-risk,” meaning they are already working to produce at commercial scale, even before they determine whether their vaccine candidate actually works. The goal is to have large amounts available for use as soon as the Food and Drug Administration green-lights a vaccine. If some candidates fail to clear the FDA’s bar, that product will be destroyed.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/20/covid19-vaccines-merck-moderna-congress/

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
2. What are the odds Trump's FDA green lights almost all, even with no efficacy, to meet 100M mark?
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:27 PM
Sep 2020

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And, if a vaccine has some efficacy, they really won't know how much it actually is in the field.

You'll have a bunch of people receiving vaccines that are anywhere from 0-40 plus percent effective and walking around as though they are now immune from contracting it--only to subject themselves and their families and others to infection.

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TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
8. The Old IT saying: Do you want it Delivered Quickly, Correctly or Inexpensively. Pick 2 of the 3.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
Sep 2020

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That's a good visual Venn of this.

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ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
14. Not Just IT, BA
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

I've heard civil engineers say that for decades in the early phases of a big expansion, or rebuild! (Especially during the estimating phase.)
Also, project managers operate in that way on most capital projects.
So, it's quite pervasive, and they're all totally correct.
We can only have 2 of the three.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
3. The scary part of that article
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020
In the U.S., manufacturers are shielded from liability if a vaccine or drug developed in response to a health emergency causes injuries to people who receive it. That protection comes from the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act of 2005.

If that protection were not in place, would vaccine manufacturers be willing to roll out vaccines on such a slight evidence base? Will they make them available to countries that don’t offer similar protection against liability?

Thekaspervote

(32,707 posts)
4. 9 drug co. Working on the vaccine issued a joint statement saying they would not be pushed
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:37 PM
Sep 2020

Politically to release a vaccine whose safety and efficacy has not been proven- including moderna.
It is SOP for a drug companies to begin some production of a drug or vaccine ahead of time, production costs pennies. That means nothing as to when it will be released

Moderna also said said maybe ...it will have results of phase 3 by thanksgiving. That is not a vaccine ready for use.

https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-phase-3-clinical-trial-2020-7

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
5. So lets just say he's right. How does he plan to implement distribution? We still don't have enough
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:40 PM
Sep 2020

testing for crying out loud. But we are going to be effective at getting millions vaccinated under these bumbling idiots?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. Anyone who believes anything he says must be insane.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:44 PM
Sep 2020

There's nothing he could say about anything that I'd believe.

underpants

(182,624 posts)
11. I thought this was going to be part of their strategy
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:26 PM
Sep 2020

and really should be. I mean it’s not like facts or not wanting to get caught lying ever holds them back.

Get the message out that they do have a vaccine. The cult will repeat ANYTHING they are told.

I’m surprised I’m not seeing more of it.

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