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BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 10:33 PM Aug 2020

I'm sure someone has already commented on this, but I'm still steaming.

I heard CNN talking about how Kamala Harris is seen as "too ambitious." Ok.... Think what one will about Kamala-- Love her or hate her or whatever. . . But when the FUCK is this ever said about a man? Furthermore, just WHO is saying Kamala is too ambitious? Talking heads on TV just blather on about it, and before we know it, everybody is repeating it. Furthermore, who the fuck cares if she's ambitious?

And lastly, what gets me even more is that I hear shit like this from the supposed "liberal" media outlets. . . Fuxx News lies and makes up false facts, but we can blame MSNBC (usually) for the self-inflicted damage, although it was CNN today. Makes me sick.

These kinds of statements make me think of Pussy-Grabber when he starts flailing and says, "I've heard people say. . ." Or "Somebody told me. . ." This is the SAME formula, "People are saying that Kamala is too ambitious." I call it bullshit.

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I'm sure someone has already commented on this, but I'm still steaming. (Original Post) BigDemVoter Aug 2020 OP
K and R Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #1
+1000 MLAA Aug 2020 #2
I may be wrong, but I think it was one if Biden's people who said this. secondwind Aug 2020 #3
I'm going with the assumption Turbineguy Aug 2020 #6
CNN doesn't talk... brooklynite Aug 2020 #4
I wish I could remember who it was. . . BigDemVoter Aug 2020 #8
I don't think they were specifically named. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #13
Wow, that's a lot of sour grapes and projection. crickets Aug 2020 #36
Brian Stelter Bev54 Aug 2020 #15
+1000 MLAA Aug 2020 #5
Sexism I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2020 #7
K&R times a thousand! redstatebluegirl Aug 2020 #9
I screamed at the TV when I heard that! BTW, what's wrong with being 42bambi Aug 2020 #10
Spot on. As Clare Mccaskell said all the great women Biden onetexan Aug 2020 #11
Calling her "too ambitious" is sexist as Hell. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #12
Is it possible to run for president (or senator) without being ambitious? jg10003 Aug 2020 #14
Exactly! 👍 Duppers Aug 2020 #30
straight up sexism Archetypist Aug 2020 #16
Yep grantcart Aug 2020 #18
+1 spooky3 Aug 2020 #19
I am only surprised they didn't also say "too smart" grantcart Aug 2020 #17
Actually, being ambitious is a huge plus. Srkdqltr Aug 2020 #20
I would tell anyone that said that "Thanks for the compliment." even if they did not mean it that cstanleytech Aug 2020 #21
Amen caraher Aug 2020 #22
It's a dysfunctional & twisted world we're living in! Sounds like something that would come Illumination Aug 2020 #23
two kinds of ambition quickesst Aug 2020 #24
Harris would be great - really aggressive on the campaign trail as only a former DA could be. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #25
Obama was decried as ambitious. OneBro Aug 2020 #26
Exactly! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #34
Yeah FO to pundits who say that.. also do they say Cha Aug 2020 #27
Ambitious is as ambitious does... dchill Aug 2020 #28
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #29
Our media sensationalizes everything to generate content.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2020 #31
What is too ambitious in politics? lame54 Aug 2020 #32
Part of the rule for Democrats, especially women: always assume the worst motivations. betsuni Aug 2020 #33
She threatens them with competency. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #35

Turbineguy

(37,212 posts)
6. I'm going with the assumption
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 10:39 PM
Aug 2020

that anything negative I hear about Biden, the potential VP, or any Democrat is coming from the Russians.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
4. CNN doesn't talk...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 10:37 PM
Aug 2020

Someone ON CNN talks. It would be helpful to know who talked to evaluate whether I should care or not.

crickets

(25,896 posts)
36. Wow, that's a lot of sour grapes and projection.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:50 PM
Aug 2020

These 'concerned' men are telling us much more about themselves and how their own minds work than about Kamala Harris and her suitability as VP.

Bev54

(9,963 posts)
15. Brian Stelter
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:08 AM
Aug 2020

was talking about this very thing, I think this morning but in the same way you are talking about it, how it is never said about a man, only a woman and how the BS needs to stop.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,452 posts)
7. Sexism
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 10:39 PM
Aug 2020

Assholes who are sexist ego trippers gonna resent someone who's a better person than they are, especially if they are a woman.

Fuck em and thier beliefs.

Cnn should know better but we got reporters sucking by repeating right wing bullshit like this.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
10. I screamed at the TV when I heard that! BTW, what's wrong with being
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 11:18 PM
Aug 2020

too ambitious. CNN, really? Kamala wouldn't be where she is today had she not been ambitious!

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
11. Spot on. As Clare Mccaskell said all the great women Biden
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 11:28 PM
Aug 2020

Is vetting for VEEP all got there because of their ambition. Seems when it comes to women the word ambition takes an ugly connotation. CNN stirs up alot of BS so i watch msnbc more.

Srkdqltr

(6,129 posts)
20. Actually, being ambitious is a huge plus.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:27 AM
Aug 2020

I would not want someone running for anything if they are not ambitious. Really a person who is not ambitious would not do all the work to run. Ambition is necessary.

cstanleytech

(26,082 posts)
21. I would tell anyone that said that "Thanks for the compliment." even if they did not mean it that
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:28 AM
Aug 2020

way because being ambitious is a good thing imo.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
23. It's a dysfunctional & twisted world we're living in! Sounds like something that would come
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:45 AM
Aug 2020

out of the pervy fake "pres.'s" nasty mouth!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
24. two kinds of ambition
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:50 AM
Aug 2020

There is ambition for the sake of furthering one's own fortune, and then there is ambition for the purpose of elevating everyone's fortune along with their own.
I have my own opinion which category each of the possible choices fall into.

Quote:
"Talking heads on TV just blather on about it, and before we know it, everybody is repeating it."

I'm positive there are more people on the Democratic side who can form their own opinion of character based upon personal observation. We are nothing like the lemmings of Faux News and trump.

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
25. Harris would be great - really aggressive on the campaign trail as only a former DA could be.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:52 AM
Aug 2020

And the 'too ambitious' thing? Pure sexism.

I do have to say, though, that my first choice would be Rice.

But Harris would be just fine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. Exactly!
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:03 AM
Aug 2020

Do you ever notice it's only people of color and women who are described as "too ambitious"? Unfortunately, she is both so she's getting the double-whammy of prejudice and judgment.

Her ambition, her confidence and her intelligence are what makes her such a powerful, charismatic presence in the first place and I think it's also the same reason that some people - the OTHER people - are afraid of her.

I think she's inspiring and impressive and would make a great addition to Joe's team.

Response to BigDemVoter (Original post)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
31. Our media sensationalizes everything to generate content....
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:34 AM
Aug 2020

and to maintain audience without considering full context or social implications.

A similar annoying habit exists with most all outlets that can't resist plastering large color photos of tRump on every single headline page that are highly offensive to me.

And yes, sexism and racism is pervasive in virtually all major news outlets around the globe, mostly in subtle ways but sometimes blatantly obvious.


KY.............

betsuni

(25,137 posts)
33. Part of the rule for Democrats, especially women: always assume the worst motivations.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 02:11 AM
Aug 2020

Too ambitious, unlikeable, over-prepared, too this and not enough that. Everything has a diabolical negative motivation. A woman doing the job she was hired to do: conspiracy theories of Kamala Harris putting everyone in jail and Hillary Clinton as hawkish warmonger. Fucking ridiculous. Is this a mommy complex or what.

Today I watched an old panel discussion from the primaries and someone said, out of the blue, as if it had anything to do with anything they were discussing, "Amy Klobuchar threw a stapler at someone."

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