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(10,870 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)that people should be worried about even majority of them voted for trump.
Karadeniz
(22,492 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If not for African Americans he would have lost South Carolina and the coda to his career would have been a humiliating defeat and third unsuccessful presidential campaign.
He owes the Black community everything.
marybourg
(12,610 posts)about a Black woman for VP. What he wanted was a Black woman on the Supreme Court!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)marybourg
(12,610 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)And pass up 5 black women when black voters, the party's most loyal and dependable base, got Biden the nomination? That won't be the best decision.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)And Susan Rice is a Rhodes Scholar and former National Security Adviser and Kamala Harris was an Attorney General for the largest state in the Union and is a sitting senator.
More.Than. qualified!
JI7
(89,244 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)I have been consistent in saying that it is not a time to tell any group of women it is still not their time, take a seat and not participate. I like all our women. I will be thrilled with all our women. I support Biden regardless of his pick. I do not want it a created battle between groups of women because it is a time for women, the end.
He promised to pick a female VP. He didn't promise she was going to be of any specific race. Whoever he picks is fine with me.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)BluesRunTheGame
(1,613 posts)...the most important criteria is electability.
If Biden doesnt run in 2024 and his VP choice decides to run, becomes our nominee, and loses....were fucked. We cant afford to give the White House back to the Republicans in 4 years.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)the experience to run if they chose. VP picked does not have to be about anointed someone in 2024.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,613 posts)...they lose.
Alben Barkley was the last Democratic Vice President that declined to seek the nomination. Vice President Johnson advanced to the presidency upon Kennedys death.
The rest of them became our nominee and lost.
Humphrey
Mondale
Gore
Biden has a good chance because Trump really sucks.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Can be done.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)was in the post I responded to.
I'm saying no it was not.
Biden was the last one.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)BluesRunTheGame
(1,613 posts)But here he is today.
LSparkle
(11,660 posts)But hopefully all will support Joes choice.
IMHO, she should have at least statewide elected experience, though. (And I count Stacey A. as having been robbed of GA governorship so she qualifies in this case.)
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)tinrobot
(10,893 posts)We HAVE to win this time out.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)It's not like we WON'T vote for him.
womanofthehills
(8,688 posts)It will really inspire the black women voters.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... wearing a dress, high heels and lipstick.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,613 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I'd think, "I guess the world is completely crazy now, but it will still be an improvement."
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She is the only one in the field of choices that can deliver Texas. And she will greatly help African American and Hispanic down ballot candidates, particularly in Georgia, Florida and Texas.
womanofthehills
(8,688 posts)imanamerican63
(13,771 posts)As long it fits the ticket and what Biden is looking for in a VP. Biden knows that it is impossible to make everyone happy, but remember what the outcome needs to be? Trump defeated and that is all I care about! As I stated yesterday there qualified women who fill the bill and Biden will make the proper choice. I want to Rice or Duckworth, but if it is Harris, Warren or anyone? I will be just as happy and will jump on the Biden & _____ ticket!
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)is how strong of a ticket it is for getting rid of Trump. If we don't win this election, then NOTHING else is going to matter.
I will obviously support the ticket no matter what.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Given that he is determined to choose a woman, I think that costs us 2-3% points in the general election, right off the bat. In my opinion, Americans are more sexist than they are racist, for better or for worse. If Biden chooses a white woman, I think that will cost us another 1-2% of the national vote, for a total of -3 to -5% of the vote. If Biden chooses a black woman, I think that gains us about 2-3% in the national vote (due to a massive increase in voter enthusiasm), for a total of +/-0%.
Personally, I hope he chooses a black woman, and I hope he chooses Karen Bass.
That said, I think he could choose Betty Boop and still win in November 2020.
-Laelth
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)A vice president is not worth that much.
IMO, it should have been a male. In a pivotal election like this one, preference always destroys turnout. You have a far superior grasp than most of preference as the key variable. Biden caved to conventional wisdom when he insisted he would select a woman.
The Hispanic vote is vital because that block has long history of overboard loyalty to a presidential incumbent. I predicted in 2017 that Trump would have a larger share of the Hispanic vote than made any sense in 2020. If we had a popular Hispanic male without baggage, then that would be the ideal choice for vice president.
LeftInTX
(25,220 posts)He really went after Joe, nasty....
It's not Julian's personality either and it reeked of desperation.
Iggo
(47,547 posts)imanamerican63
(13,771 posts)My sentiment too!
Its not like I would withhold my vote because the ancestors of Bidens running mate came from the wrong ethnic background. No such thing to me. I care if she can do a dynamite job and take over on day one if need be, not if her ethnic background is Inuit/Ibo/Basque/Aborigine.
hurl
(938 posts)I'll vote D all the way up and down the ticket regardless, but this would be a mistake IMO. Hillary's VP choice was a blunder, but I voted for her anyway - will vote D again even if Biden screws up.
I really think we owe it to our base to demonstrate and live diversity.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)but this was not supposed to be about color. This was supposed to be about getting a woman in. Getting a female in. Getting the opposite sex of a man in. That in itself is the main issue.
Peacetrain
(22,874 posts)in the military.. I vote Tammy
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)discrimination.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)or should not be.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)paying attention or if its a low information voter.
High information Black voters might be upset and it could depress turnout. Personally, I would be annoyed if he picked Whitmer over Kamala or Rice. I would be all in if he picked Warren though
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Otherwise I prefer Harris out of the other choices.
Competence is more important than pigmentation.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Not that a white woman wouldn't be a decent running mate, but after all the hype about choosing a black female candidate and considering how powerful and loyal our female AA base is, I think it would be a huge mistake to not choose a black woman.
Especially in this climate. Especially right now.