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PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:23 AM Aug 2020

Now I understand how Holocaust deniers' brains work.

You see, because I’m so outspoken and my rage goes from 0 to 120 in three seconds, no one has ever had the guts to expound Holocaust deniers’ philosophy to me as an advocate. This pandemic however has taught me a lesson in how these people think and act and use false narrative and supposition to attempt to achieve their goals.

As I’ve mentioned it a couple previous posts, I belong to a group on Facebook of dentists and dental personnel who are trying to cope during this epidemic. Of course, you have a nucleus of Trump pumpers and Humpers who dominate the conversation and do everything that you know that they do to disrupt and deflect and the negate the importance of what is really going on.

Things came to a crescendo yesterday when one of the assholes posted a story stating that evidence was mounting that the pandemic was not as serious as was originally thought. Of course, it turned out that the article from NPR was over two months old, and I made the statement that the only thing that was mounting were the Trump pumpers on Trump’s leg. This of course led to the predictable reaction, and the fight was on. It lasted well into the night and I awakened to something like 75 new posts since I’ve gone to bed.

One young lady made the statement that these deniers should just get coronavirus already and die. Predictably, all these pseudo-altruistic people chided her for wishing ill Upon someone. I say: go for it. I’m looking forward to a fair number of cases of Karma. I have only two words for them: Herman Cain.

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Now I understand how Holocaust deniers' brains work. (Original Post) PCIntern Aug 2020 OP
'The Ghost of Herman Cain' - could haunt some empedocles Aug 2020 #1
I cannot understand how their brains work. I've tried reading and meditating and listening LiberalBrooke Aug 2020 #2
I'm with the young lady HAB911 Aug 2020 #3
I feel better now Alliepoo Aug 2020 #4
+++++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2020 #5
Facebook friend who was a denier revealed she had Covid-19 Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #6
Had a crown prep last Monday WyLoochka Aug 2020 #7
With apologies to Neil Young... flotsam Aug 2020 #8
I just finished a book about Holocaust denial (and general denialism). Behind the Aegis Aug 2020 #9
Agree... myccrider Aug 2020 #10

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
2. I cannot understand how their brains work. I've tried reading and meditating and listening
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 08:01 AM
Aug 2020

but I just do not get it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,059 posts)
6. Facebook friend who was a denier revealed she had Covid-19
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 09:48 AM
Aug 2020

Several weeks ago she was posting the Plandemoc video, and before that she was posting all kinds of Trumpian BS about how we needed to open and how it’s all overblown. Yesterday she revealed that both her and her son have been battling it. Her son didn’t get sick too bad, but lost his sense of taste and smell and still hasn’t regained it. He’s about 12. She though, has had it rough, a 102 degree temperature for 14 days in a row without a break. She was almost hospitalized, but recently took a turn for the better.

Glad she’s OK, but she was spreading crap that could harm people.

WyLoochka

(1,629 posts)
7. Had a crown prep last Monday
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

Been going to this dentist for 14 years. He's an excellent dentist but right wing due to being raised in the Mormon Republican worldview.

I don't understand where this worldwiew gives room to approve of everything Trump does but he, the other doctor, and almost the whole staff are of this upbringing and many make excuses for trump on their facebook accounts, but never in the office.

I was shocked when I went in to find not one of the 3 in the front office nor any one of the 6 or 7 patients already there for a 9:00 am appoinment was wearing a mask.

I was masked up, of course, and saw that I was side eyed and rolled eyed as if I just stepped in from Pluto.

I was also shocked that neither my dentist, nor the assistant wore the plastic face shield and mask that my hygienist had worn 15 days ago. They had simple masks on. The Prep was a wet process, plenty of water spray and suction over and over, so I can only assume my aerosolized saliva, potentially with COVID 19 viral baddies, was mixed in with that water and escaping into a droplet cloud over my wide open mouth despite the close suctioning.

They do this with everyone! I do not have any symptoms but who really knows?

The place is well maintained and clean but I can tell they, and a lot of their patients (meaning many people in my small town) are of the pursusion that the reports are overblown and high levels of protection are not necessary. Ugh.

We have had increases of confirmed cases ok over the summer.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
8. With apologies to Neil Young...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:38 PM
Aug 2020

You are like a Herman Cain
There's death in your cries
And I'm gettin' far away
To somewhere safer where infection ain't
I like to punch you but I'm ducking Herman's taint...

Behind the Aegis

(53,954 posts)
9. I just finished a book about Holocaust denial (and general denialism).
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:49 PM
Aug 2020
Denying History: Holocaust Denial, Pseudohistory, and How We Know What Happened in the Past by Michael Brant Shermer. I do suggest it. It isn't too terribly long and as I listened to it, it was easy to draw parallels to other forms of denial and historical revisionism, including some we see from unexpected sources.

To me, it is always amazing when educated people can be some of the most stupid people one will ever meet. It just shores up, in my mind, the desperate need for the teaching of logic in middle school and through out high school!

myccrider

(484 posts)
10. Agree...
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 04:48 AM
Aug 2020

and also require learning critical thinking skills including how scientific inquiry works. I think these are more important than just learning facts. Teach people how to think and learn and they can teach themselves most of the factoid stuff.

I took a debate class in my first semester of high school a loooooong time ago. It taught me some solid research and thinking skills, although I think most ‘debates’, especially political, are worthless for determining who might be ‘correct’ or the better candidate. But that’s a whole ‘nother subject.

I’ll check out the book, sounds interesting.

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