BIDEN STATEMENT on Trump's executive orders

[highplainsdem]

https://medium.com/JoeBiden/statement-by-vice-president-joe-biden-on-president-trumps-executive-orders-to-sow-more-chaos-and-876805b13d08

Unable to deliver for the American people in a time of crisis, Donald Trump offered a series of half-baked measures today. He is putting Social Security at grave risk at a time when seniors are suffering the overwhelming impact of a pandemic he has failed to get under control. And make no mistake: Donald Trump said today that if he is re-elected, he will defund Social Security.

For months, Trump has golfed rather than negotiated, and sown division rather than pull people together to get a package passed. Now, instead of staying in Washington and working with Republicans and Democrats to reach a bipartisan deal, President Trump is at his golf club in New Jersey signing a series of dubious executive orders.

This is no art of the deal. This is not presidential leadership. These orders are not real solutions. They are just another cynical ploy designed to deflect responsibility. Some measures do far more harm than good.

One order is Donald Trump’s first shot in a new, reckless war on Social Security. Trump announced a payroll tax plan with no protections or guarantees — like the ones the Obama-Biden administration enforced a decade ago — that the Social Security Trust Fund will be made whole. And, Trump specifically stated today that if re-elected, he plans to undermine the entire financial footing of Social Security. He is laying out his roadmap to cutting Social Security. Our seniors and millions of Americans with disabilities are under enough stress without Trump putting their hard-earned Social Security benefits in doubt.

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Much more at the link.

[SheltieLover]

1. 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Go Joe!

[octoberlib]

2. Great statement!

[soothsayer]

3. Yes!

[Blue Owl]

4. K&R

[Rice4VP]

13. What does K&R mean?

[phylny]

14. Kicked/or kick and Recommend

Kicked means by responding to the thread, you "kick" it up to the top of the particular forum, and recommend is obvious.

[Rice4VP]

39. Thanks

[SoonerPride]

18. Welcome to DU!

[Blue_true]

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[smirkymonkey]

5. K&R

[Lock him up.]

6. Great reply, but TV ads at large in FL, AZ, and TX presto!

RICO THE TRUMP$ MOB$TEr$ AND THEIr GANG$TEr-rEGIME ACCOMPLICE$ NOW!

[elleng]

34. Yes, make them very well-done TV ads,

clear and piercing; I'm sure someones can come up with such.

[El Supremo]

7. If he really goes after Social Security we'll have a revolution.

Old farts like me will lead it.

My employers and I have put a ton of money into it and I've yet to take out a single cent.

[agingdem]

12. Donnie is screwing his base and they're not going to like it

they don't want "govmint in their bidness" but don't touch their Social Security and Medicare...and now their orange idiot wants to rob them of their monthly check..screw with their retirement..to paraphrase Martin Neimoller..

First Trump said Hispanics were rapists and murderers, and I said YES!
Then Trump said Muslims were terrorists, and I said YES!
Then Trump said the BLM was a symbol of hate, and I said YES
Then Trump said it was ok to put babies in cages, and I said YES
Then Trump said no more Social Security, and I said WTF!

[Sapient Donkey]

24. I dunno, a lot of them seem to just agree with anything he does without any thought

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They might take issue with it at first, but then he'll be like "It will make things better for everyone. You will all hugely benefit. Some have said it's the best plan they've ever seen." They will take that at face value and now in their mind Trump fixed everything. I've seen that happen over and over.

[agingdem]

26. This one the Trumpidiots will care about...

much of his base is older, some have disabilities...they need the money...they love him because he voices their hate but they will not give up their monthly direct deposit

[Ahpook]

21. Is he sabotaging?

I don't think the bozo cares for this position anymore. He probably wishes he never had it, or maybe he does enjoy this. He is so fucking crazy it's hard to read.

I know the Pubs go after SS and Medicare vocally, but none of them actually seem to take it to a real attempt?!

[Cha]

8. KR!

[Thekaspervote]

9. KR!!

[ismnotwasm]

10. K&R

[C_U_L8R]

11. It's so refreshing to see real smarts and leadership again

And a whole lot of heart and goodness.

[Pepsidog]

15. Way to tame for my taste but I guess that shows that Biden is a classy guy.

[BlueIdaho]

16. A punch to Fatso's nose

Well done Mr Vice President! It’s time for America to remember what real leadership sounds like.

[rockfordfile]

31. I agree

[ancianita]

17. Isn't it unconstitutional for him to re-allocate $ from Congress' authorizations any way he wants?

I'm pretty sure this is a federal court issue.

[SoonerPride]

19. Yes

It is clearly outside his power to do so

It’s a nothing hamberder

[ancianita]

28. Great.

Thanks. I had to make sure I'm seeing what's really happening, not being a lawer.

Don't be so sure that we don't get force fed nothing hamberders to the point where people forget what real something food is.

The one thing dictators do is create reality by consensus. Even their versions of science, the bible and everything.

His motto: "Remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

[0rganism]

23. thoroughly unconstitutional, it will be challenged, blocked, and basis of a pro-Trump ad campaign

sadopopulism in action

[ancianita]

27. Whew. We're getting so much of his lawlessness I was afraid most people are getting used to it.

Thanks!

[Skittles]

20. excellent statement

[Tribetime]

22. We need these statements to be broadcast live

Equal time !!!!!

[BadgerMom]

25. Hammer him on Social Security.

It might make even diehard oldies think twice or, better, vote for Biden.

[sarcasmo]

30. That's the ad, Trump will take your Social Security, big red letters with scary music.

Run the advert during Wheel of Fortune.

[progree]

32. The rest of the Biden statement is very much worth reading, as he discusses the other orders

https://medium.com/JoeBiden/statement-by-vice-president-joe-biden-on-president-trumps-executive-orders-to-sow-more-chaos-and-876805b13d08

for example:

Another order brings cuts, chaos, and confusion to our system of unemployment insurance. Trump is unilaterally reducing the amount laid-off workers could receive. And he purports to provide these benefits until the end of the year, but only identifies enough funding to make it a handful of weeks. Even with that limited funding, Trump is basically playing a cruel game of robbing Peter to pay Paul: He is taking billions of dollars of federal natural disaster funding away so it won’t be available to states like Florida. And, he is forcing states to choose between imposing benefit cuts for unemployed workers or slashing funds for public schools, health workers, and first responders.

A third order, on evictions, is woefully inadequate to deal with the emerging housing crisis. He is leaving our nation’s renters with ever-mounting debt and leaving our small family landlords badly squeezed. Without a comprehensive plan to help our American families make rent, they will leave this crisis months behind on their payments while many landlords teeter on the verge of bankruptcy.

And a fourth order is a band-aid approach to student debt that leaves out 7 million borrowers who obtained their federal loans from private lenders or their college rather than the Department. The economic strain on these Americans is deep and unrelenting.

[progree]

33. the ones the Obama-Biden administration enforced a decade ago -- that the SSTF will be made whole

Biden statement:

the ones the Obama-Biden administration enforced a decade ago — that the Social Security Trust Fund will be made whole

For a couple of years during the Great Recession, the Obama-Biden administration reduced the payroll tax on the employEE share by 2 percentage points, from 6.2% to 4.2%, while leaving the tax on the employER share unchanged at 6.2%.

At the time, I looked into how that affected Social Security's future. It turns out that the payroll tax difference was made up by the Treasury's general fund. Or to put it another way, the SSTF accounting was done exactly the same way as if it was receiving the full 12.4% (6.2% + 6.2%) instead of the actual 10.4% (4.2% + 6.4%).

So the SSTF balance was not affected by so much as a dime, nor was the projected SSTF depletion date affected by so much as a minute by what was called the partial payroll tax holiday.

I went into all that at great length back in 2012, including statements by the Social Security and Medicare trustees
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1014356331#post12

As for what Caligula has just done, and assuming it stands -- it is a temporary deferral for at most a year, so it has to be paid back. This is stated in several articles I've read in the past 12 hours.

If he gets reelected and succeeds in changing the law -- who knows, I don't. Frankly, I don't like anyone messing with Social Security -- there are other ways to give tax breaks or extra income to workers.

[geretogo]

35. This THING in the White House is not human . He needs to be put in solitary confinement

chained to the wall on bread and water untill his master SATAN takes him back to hell .

[Illumination]

36. So he's dismanteling the US for whom? Putin?

[qwlauren35]

37. Needs a Lincoln Project Ad

I hope they are working on it.

[orangecrush]

38. Going from Vlad to worse

The American people are going to suffer.