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Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:22 PM

Louis DeJoy crippling the US Postal Service by shutting down mail-sorting machines

This is Louis DeJoy. He is the huge Trump DONOR who Trump made the Postmaster General of the United States. He is trying to DESTROY the US Postal Service to help Trump steal an election.

We need to make him famous.

Louis DeJoy gave $2,000,000 to the Republican Party under Trump who rewarded him by making him the head of the Postal Service DESPITE NO EXPERIENCE AT THE POST OFFICE.

The first thing he did was CUT SERVICES & create a MASSIVE BACKLOG of mail delivery.

“The cardinal rule is, ‘don’t delay the mail,’ and we’re in a 180-degree switch where we’re delaying mail every day,” adding that if the system is not fixed before election season, “it’s going to be a catastrophe.”

THIS IS ON PURPOSE.

Louis DeJoy’s wife also works for Trump.

Trump has openly LIED for a long time that mail in voting is unsafe. There is NO EVIDENCE of this.

It is very clear that Trump’s plan is to create suspicion around voting while DeJoy cripples mail delivery.

WE MUST STOP HIM.

Some of Louis DeJoy's changes which have crippled the US Postal Service:

- Shutting down mail-sorting machines so workers must do it by hand.

- Requiring letter carriers to LEAVE MAIL BEHIND to avoid extra trips.

- Prohibiting overtime pay.

This has created a massive backlog.



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Reply Louis DeJoy crippling the US Postal Service by shutting down mail-sorting machines (Original post)
chia Jul 31 OP
MANative Jul 31 #1
Marthe48 Jul 31 #24
misanthrope Aug 1 #70
chia Jul 31 #31
NewJeffCT Jul 31 #43
sarcasmo Jul 31 #60
SergeStorms Aug 1 #77
underpants Jul 31 #2
chia Jul 31 #5
PatSeg Jul 31 #28
Rebl2 Jul 31 #34
ck4829 Jul 31 #3
a kennedy Jul 31 #4
chia Jul 31 #6
a kennedy Jul 31 #7
CrispyQ Jul 31 #11
JudyM Jul 31 #63
Newest Reality Jul 31 #8
dixiegrrrrl Jul 31 #15
Andy823 Jul 31 #27
BBG Jul 31 #46
SoCalNative Jul 31 #61
BComplex Jul 31 #9
stopdiggin Jul 31 #13
Hekate Jul 31 #32
stopdiggin Jul 31 #39
Baitball Blogger Jul 31 #10
Thekaspervote Jul 31 #12
bucolic_frolic Jul 31 #58
Fiendish Thingy Jul 31 #14
Trailrider1951 Jul 31 #21
BComplex Jul 31 #65
lunasun Jul 31 #16
mac56 Jul 31 #17
dchill Jul 31 #22
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 31 #29
rusty fender Jul 31 #18
ananda Jul 31 #19
mwooldri Jul 31 #36
Volaris Jul 31 #20
Volaris Jul 31 #23
Volaris Jul 31 #25
Marthe48 Jul 31 #26
superpatriotman Jul 31 #30
634-5789 Jul 31 #40
Traildogbob Jul 31 #33
LymphocyteLover Jul 31 #38
ancianita Jul 31 #35
LymphocyteLover Jul 31 #37
duforsure Jul 31 #41
mike507 Jul 31 #42
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SWBTATTReg Jul 31 #45
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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:25 PM

1. I'm only getting mail maybe three times per week

Definitely not typical of our usual volume/frequency. I've got a friend who works at the Post Office in a nearby town but haven't talked to her in the last couple of weeks. Will reach out this weekend to see what she has been told to do.

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Response to MANative (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:46 PM

24. I noticed that too. Not as much junk mail

Still getting a few bills on time.

every single person impeached traitor hires is a dirtbag pos. So sick of all of this.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:17 AM

70. The waning junk mail? That's more likely due to the pandemic's economic downturn

Advertising is often the first expense in a business to get trimmed back and one of the last to be resumed at previous levels.

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Response to MANative (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:07 PM

31. Please update us if she gives you any info

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Response to MANative (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:25 PM

43. a few years ago, I would get several pieces of mail per day, 6 days per week

some of it was junk mail - credit card offers, local realtors announcing house XYZ in your neighborhood is on the market and if you would like expert help in selling yours...but, there is legitimate mail: in 2019, it was a ton of college mailings for my daughter. Plus local businesses that I may use that are not set up for electronic payment.

This is NOT counting anything delivered by Amazon.

However, I've noticed that over the past year or so, I often don't get any mail at least once per week, sometimes twice. The most common day is Saturday to not get any mail.

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Response to MANative (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:15 PM

60. Have an Ebay package that tracking shows in Oakcreek for the last 3 days.


What a mess.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #60)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:12 PM

77. I have one...

that's been in Jamaica, NY for one week now. ONE WEEK IN THE FRICKING JAMAICA POST OFFICE! How can a package not move whatsoever in a one week period? Then I remembered Trump appointing his buddy DeJoy for the sole purpose of dismantling the USPS. Now I understand.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:25 PM

2. Sorting by hand???? That will take FOREVER

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:27 PM

5. I'm really worried, this could be the thing that has the most power to suppress the vote

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Response to chia (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:00 PM

28. And it will have a very adverse effect

on an already declining economy. Online retailers will be seriously affected by the slow down in deliveries. Some people are already canceling their orders.

Then there are people who pay their bills by mail who will end up with late fees and the possible downgrading of their credit ratings.

Trump wants to win votes by bragging about his great economy and he is working to destroy it. Apparently there is nothing he won't destroy, because he can.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:11 PM

34. Also

Many p.o. don’t do it this way anymore. It’s the machines that do the sorting. When my husband started at the post office in 1984, he sorted mail by hand and had to really know zip codes for every state. This is a disaster. Many people get medication by mail and when it gets delayed that’s a problem. It’s also going to kill businesses like Etsy. I ordered something from someone at Etsy over a week ago and still haven’t gotten it. I know it was mailed because I got a notification that it was and a tracking number. If enough of us start calling our representatives and senators with complaints maybe it will put pressure on them to do something.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:25 PM

3. The solution is to use the mail NOW... for anything and everything

Make the backlog extremely noticeable before the election.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:26 PM

4. How is this allowed to happen???

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:28 PM

6. Who can do something about it? Who do we go to that can stop it?

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Response to chia (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:30 PM

7. I don't know.......but damn it, this is just so disheartening.....

and it just isn’t acceptable behavior.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:37 PM

11. Who's gonna stop them? So far, they've pretty much gotten away with everything.

It's like we've resigned ourselves as a nation, to endure this horror until November & then hope for the best. I was hoping someone had a Plan B, but now I wish someone had a Plan A. I wrote to my democratic rep this morning that it's time for the dems to impeach the Con again. Make him & the GOP senators squirm. Get those cowardly GOP senators on record voting no, during a raging pandemic and right before the election.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:22 PM

63. This is the problem.

We need to prosecute corruption like the house is on fire, and that’s not what we’ve shown that we do in the past, so they’re further emboldened. We also need to fix our voting infrastructure. These are the main reasonS I want Harris or Warren as V.P., if there’s still a chance of that.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:32 PM

8. Widespread...

This is going to have a wide impact on the country above and beyond Trump's attack on mail-in voting.

For instance, people are purchasing more online now. How will this effect Amazon? What's does Bezos have to say about it, considering his leverage?

In the more immediate sense, doing this to the USPS is going to throw bucket loads of sand into gears of the country and economy.

It is an even bigger mistake than it appears to be, IMHO. Predator Grump's desperation is getting even more destructive.

It's YUGE!

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:13 PM

15. Amazon delays would be an extra boon to trump.



also, Republicans for decades have been trying to sink the Post Office. They want mail delivery to be a private for profit biz.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:50 PM

27. My pickup truck license tabs

needed to be renewed in July. I didn't receive a notice in the mail so I went on line and renewed them. I was two days late, but they showed up a couple of days later. Yesterday, July 30 I received the notice in the mail saying they were due by the 10th of July. They had sent it early in July, plenty of time to get to me before they expired.

My other car is due in August and I will be renewing them very early in the month. I live in Washington state so I also vote by mail. I always have my ballot in the mail waiting two days of delivery. This year it will be in the mail the same day I receive it.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:31 PM

46. FWIW renewal can be done 6 months before expiry

In Washington. Almost did so last fall but we decided to move in September when we were 7 months out.

Why early renewal? Anything done in spite of that jackass Tim Eyman.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:22 PM

61. Amazon rarely uses the postal service

for deliveries anymore. They have their own delivery people, at least here now, that deliver 98% of their stuff. The rest is handled occasionally by UPS and other delivery services. Some third-party sellers who sell through Amazon still use the post for deliveries, but those are few and far between that I see these days.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:34 PM

9. There are LAWS on the books that ANYONE messing with the US Postal Service gives people

time in jail. That means ANYONE.

Someone needs to have this asshole arrested.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:49 PM

13. what illegal act would you be referring to?

Generally an arrest requires charges.
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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:08 PM

32. I'm sure our legal eagles here will cite chapter & verse, but starting at your doorstep...

People are not supposed to walk around putting things in your home mailbox because it is federal property, in a sense. Must use a stamp, stamp must be canceled. This extends to your newspaper deliveries, which is why you see a lot of houses with two boxes on their stand: one for mail and one for a newspaper.

Likewise, it is a federal crime to break open a street corner mailbox to steal the mail. Special laws similar to wiretapping laws obtain if law-enforcement wants to intercept and open your mail.

And so on.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:19 PM

39. I think you might have missed my point

and I probably should have used the little "sarcasm" thingy

Yes, there are laws regarding "interfering with the mail" -- none of which are even remotely in play when it comes to mismanagement (even if deliberate -- although good luck proving that) by a presidential appointee. So again -- what's the charge?

belatedly --- ---

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:34 PM

10. Jesus. Here's another advantage to doing it by hand.

Selecting zip codes that are Republican and letting them go forward, while holding back zip codes from Democratic areas.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:47 PM

12. Don't trust your ballot to the mail! Hand deliver your completed ballot to the ballot box yourself!!

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:09 PM

58. Which Republicans are fighting in court here in PA saying the state lacks

authority to use drop boxes at election points or I assume USPS drop boxes. So this is a coordinated effort.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:02 PM

14. Let Katie Porter grill his ass under oath

We might not be able to stop him, but we can shed a lot of daylight on his malfeasance.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:43 PM

21. I second this action

Rep. Porter will open a can of.....well, you know.

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Response to Trailrider1951 (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 06:26 PM

65. I'd love to see her for Atty. General. She'd clean some clocks!

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:30 PM

16. Kick

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:34 PM

17. What kind of shithole country

kneecaps its own postal service?

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Response to mac56 (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:44 PM

22. You know what kind.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:01 PM

29. ...

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:37 PM

18. Can't the Democratic Congress members get involved

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:38 PM

19. Some ideas --

Some ideas: Other delivery services step in to help deliver ballots.

Volunteer deputies help deliver ballots.

Curbside ballot boxes

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Response to ananda (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:11 PM

36. Getting ballot-type things to people probably OK.

Getting ballots FROM people and delivering in bulk - suspicious.

Republican operatives gathered absentee ballots in bulk and then didn't deliver them (because the votes were likely for the Democratic candidate). Enough of this happened that the NC Board of Elections did not certify the results and the winner of that election called for a new vote.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article226581269.html

Pains me to say this but FedEx, UPS or DHL may be alternative methods. Or instead of taking people to the polls take people to drop off the ballots at an approved secure dropbox.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:43 PM

20. How is any of that legal?

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:50 PM

26. Can post offices defy/ignore

dejoy's directives?

Surely they go against postal regulations, and union guidelines.

I can just imagine next move: dejoy to Postal Worker: "You're not keeping up on mail delivery." Postal Worker to dejoy: "You shut down the sorting machines.' dejoy: "You're fired."

What's next, do away with zip codes?

I hope that like the team in Major League, when their owner does all she can to make them lose, like pos dejoy is doing, the Post office comes out on top.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:05 PM

30. I'm gonna go buy some stamps

Who will join me?

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:19 PM

40. I did.

John Oliver had a segment about the PO, and asked people to buy stamps. We bought $53 worth. Gonna use them eventually, so why not now?

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:09 PM

33. Kill more people.

So many seniors and veterans get their life saving meds through the mail. Most are delivered based on subscriptions being renewed/replenished that must be taken without gaps in doseage. He DONT fucking care. Seniors and VETS. The VA requires you to have your meds delivered through mail. Those same people, as well as millions more are not getting bills until AFTER due dates, then getting big late due charges on fixed incomes.
I turned in my Taxes April 10th with returns due, as do many others. Those tax returns would be money back into the economy and really help out of work people. We are at August, still no tax returns, coming up on 4 months. At this point in this regime I would not be surprised if they cancel due tax returns. Never waited more than 6 weeks....ever.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:13 PM

38. good point-- this is a matter of life and death

how is this not criminal?

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:11 PM

35. Should be FIRED for dereliction of duty. Wait 'til he hides the bags of legal cease & desist letters

and notifications of filed charges.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:12 PM

37. this has to be criminal at some level

I hate these motherfuckers!!!

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:20 PM

41. While republicans watch, and do nothing about it,.

They will pay a price for allowing trump to do this to us. Its driving more states blue.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:22 PM

42. Today's word is sabotage


deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:28 PM

44. This asshole needs to be brought into hearings every day and interrogated.

Criminal referral seems in order too, though Bilious Barr will obviously ignore that.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:31 PM

45. Tampering w/ the US Mail is a serious offense. dejoy and his wife should be charged w/ tampering...

with the US Mail big time. Tampering also w/ mail in ballots is a crime too, both federal and state.

dejoy and his wife will find out very shortly that it's a crime that they wished they hadn't engaged in. Another thing that Biden will have to put on his list of things to clean up afterwards.

I don't appreciate anyone screwing around w/ my mail, no matter where it is at, period.

If someone is tampering w/ the mail, in my mailbox or anywhere else while in transit, it's not a good thing and there is no legitimate excuse ('opps, I put the wrong thing in there' etc. types of excuses). This is a federal crime.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #45)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:52 PM

53. "This is a federal crime" -- You got that right.

It's also sabotaging a part of the national infrastructure in a way that negatively effects national security. trump may think he can just wave a hand and make the mail slow down without repercussions but that just isn't so. In essence, he has asked a government employee to attack part of the national defense and to preemptively tamper with an election. Bad mistake, and it's time to call them all on it.

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Response to crickets (Reply #53)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:55 PM

54. Very good point!! Thank you for bringing it up too. Take care of yourself and be safe!!

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:33 PM

47. Looks like The Lincoln Project will have something to say about this very soon -- hopefully a video!

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Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:45 PM

52. Oh, EXCELLENT

Thank you, hadn't seen that!

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Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:00 PM

57. GREAT! Can't wait. nt

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:35 PM

48. USPS workers would be best to prioritize Voter Ballots as their job future might depend on it.

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Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:56 PM

56. +1000

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:41 PM

50. Another routine, everyday Monstrous Crime of the Century

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:44 PM

51. what

whats with the weird digits/numbers in the text?

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:56 PM

55. This is: Tampering with the US Mail is a F*ing Federal Crime Plain and Simple. the

mail sorting machines are some of the most Awesome machines on the planet. it can sort 1 piece of mail per second.
there is no reason to shut them down. they are not broken. this is fu'ed to high heavens

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:12 PM

59. This MADMAN would do literally anything to stay in power

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:24 PM

62. Why is Trump undermining our military members' ability to vote?

Why is Trump undermining our military members' ability to vote?

We already know he hates our troops.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:19 PM

64. K & R

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:50 AM

66. I hope that fucker gets the Covid-19

Such blatant, obvious cheating and fucking over the country in multiple ways...

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:05 AM

67. GD them to Fascist HELL.. Bezos & all those who do

business by Mail should be on this SHIT:nuike:

FUCKERS NEED a LESSON they're Never Forget.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:11 AM

68. I asked my mailman how things were going

not too long ago. He said not as much mail, but lots of packages.

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:11 AM

69. Rt, chia.. TY! We need to make Louis Dejoy (there is No *******

joy) INFAMOUS!

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:50 AM

71. Biden/Dems need to make this a central campaign issue

because most Americans of any political affiliation depend on and respect the postal service, especially in these troubled times.

And people tend to vote on issues like this, that affect them directly - even when they ignore larger issues.

IOW, while Trump may be thinking this will help him suppress votes/steal the election - we need to make this the coup de grâce that finishes off Trump and the GOP across the country.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #71)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:43 AM

72. Absolutely. Louis LeJoy and bloody donnie are not just unconstitutional, the are Anti-Constitution.

Congress (they're the only branch upholding the Constitution right now) should send a cease and desist letter to Le Joy, demand all internal USPS systems slowdowns be returned to their operation levels before his appointment, subpoena him before the House and admit the facts of what he's done.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #71)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:51 AM

75. And there should be House hearings ASAP

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:47 AM

73. Do any states/localities require that a ballot ARRIVE by election day?

I've seen this somewhere, but couldn't find it in this thread. I'd only ever heard that it must be POSTMARKED by election day. Does anyone have solid info?

tia
las

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:50 AM

74. Kick

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Response to chia (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:56 AM

76. Seems like with the right Justice Department, this is prosecutable as intentional voter suppression.

Not a lawyer, but I can theorize and hope.

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