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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLouis DeJoy crippling the US Postal Service by shutting down mail-sorting machines
We need to make him famous.
Louis DeJoy gave $2,000,000 to the Republican Party under Trump who rewarded him by making him the head of the Postal Service DESPITE NO EXPERIENCE AT THE POST OFFICE.
The first thing he did was CUT SERVICES & create a MASSIVE BACKLOG of mail delivery.
The cardinal rule is, dont delay the mail, and were in a 180-degree switch where were delaying mail every day, adding that if the system is not fixed before election season, its going to be a catastrophe.
THIS IS ON PURPOSE.
Louis DeJoys wife also works for Trump.
Trump has openly LIED for a long time that mail in voting is unsafe. There is NO EVIDENCE of this.
It is very clear that Trumps plan is to create suspicion around voting while DeJoy cripples mail delivery.
WE MUST STOP HIM.
Some of Louis DeJoy's changes which have crippled the US Postal Service:
- Shutting down mail-sorting machines so workers must do it by hand.
- Requiring letter carriers to LEAVE MAIL BEHIND to avoid extra trips.
- Prohibiting overtime pay.
This has created a massive backlog.
Link to tweet
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MANative
(4,112 posts)Definitely not typical of our usual volume/frequency. I've got a friend who works at the Post Office in a nearby town but haven't talked to her in the last couple of weeks. Will reach out this weekend to see what she has been told to do.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)Still getting a few bills on time.
every single person impeached traitor hires is a dirtbag pos. So sick of all of this.
misanthrope
(7,411 posts)Advertising is often the first expense in a business to get trimmed back and one of the last to be resumed at previous levels.
chia
(2,244 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)some of it was junk mail - credit card offers, local realtors announcing house XYZ in your neighborhood is on the market and if you would like expert help in selling yours...but, there is legitimate mail: in 2019, it was a ton of college mailings for my daughter. Plus local businesses that I may use that are not set up for electronic payment.
This is NOT counting anything delivered by Amazon.
However, I've noticed that over the past year or so, I often don't get any mail at least once per week, sometimes twice. The most common day is Saturday to not get any mail.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)What a mess.
SergeStorms
(19,193 posts)that's been in Jamaica, NY for one week now. ONE WEEK IN THE FRICKING JAMAICA POST OFFICE! How can a package not move whatsoever in a one week period? Then I remembered Trump appointing his buddy DeJoy for the sole purpose of dismantling the USPS. Now I understand.
underpants
(182,772 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)on an already declining economy. Online retailers will be seriously affected by the slow down in deliveries. Some people are already canceling their orders.
Then there are people who pay their bills by mail who will end up with late fees and the possible downgrading of their credit ratings.
Trump wants to win votes by bragging about his great economy and he is working to destroy it. Apparently there is nothing he won't destroy, because he can.
Many p.o. dont do it this way anymore. Its the machines that do the sorting. When my husband started at the post office in 1984, he sorted mail by hand and had to really know zip codes for every state. This is a disaster. Many people get medication by mail and when it gets delayed thats a problem. Its also going to kill businesses like Etsy. I ordered something from someone at Etsy over a week ago and still havent gotten it. I know it was mailed because I got a notification that it was and a tracking number. If enough of us start calling our representatives and senators with complaints maybe it will put pressure on them to do something.
ck4829
(35,047 posts)Make the backlog extremely noticeable before the election.
a kennedy
(29,647 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)a kennedy
(29,647 posts)and it just isnt acceptable behavior.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)It's like we've resigned ourselves as a nation, to endure this horror until November & then hope for the best. I was hoping someone had a Plan B, but now I wish someone had a Plan A. I wrote to my democratic rep this morning that it's time for the dems to impeach the Con again. Make him & the GOP senators squirm. Get those cowardly GOP senators on record voting no, during a raging pandemic and right before the election.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)We need to prosecute corruption like the house is on fire, and thats not what weve shown that we do in the past, so theyre further emboldened. We also need to fix our voting infrastructure. These are the main reasonS I want Harris or Warren as V.P., if theres still a chance of that.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)This is going to have a wide impact on the country above and beyond Trump's attack on mail-in voting.
For instance, people are purchasing more online now. How will this effect Amazon? What's does Bezos have to say about it, considering his leverage?
In the more immediate sense, doing this to the USPS is going to throw bucket loads of sand into gears of the country and economy.
It is an even bigger mistake than it appears to be, IMHO. Predator Grump's desperation is getting even more destructive.
It's YUGE!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)also, Republicans for decades have been trying to sink the Post Office. They want mail delivery to be a private for profit biz.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)needed to be renewed in July. I didn't receive a notice in the mail so I went on line and renewed them. I was two days late, but they showed up a couple of days later. Yesterday, July 30 I received the notice in the mail saying they were due by the 10th of July. They had sent it early in July, plenty of time to get to me before they expired.
My other car is due in August and I will be renewing them very early in the month. I live in Washington state so I also vote by mail. I always have my ballot in the mail waiting two days of delivery. This year it will be in the mail the same day I receive it.
BBG
(2,535 posts)In Washington. Almost did so last fall but we decided to move in September when we were 7 months out.
Why early renewal? Anything done in spite of that jackass Tim Eyman.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)for deliveries anymore. They have their own delivery people, at least here now, that deliver 98% of their stuff. The rest is handled occasionally by UPS and other delivery services. Some third-party sellers who sell through Amazon still use the post for deliveries, but those are few and far between that I see these days.
BComplex
(8,036 posts)time in jail. That means ANYONE.
Someone needs to have this asshole arrested.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)Generally an arrest requires charges.
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Hekate
(90,645 posts)People are not supposed to walk around putting things in your home mailbox because it is federal property, in a sense. Must use a stamp, stamp must be canceled. This extends to your newspaper deliveries, which is why you see a lot of houses with two boxes on their stand: one for mail and one for a newspaper.
Likewise, it is a federal crime to break open a street corner mailbox to steal the mail. Special laws similar to wiretapping laws obtain if law-enforcement wants to intercept and open your mail.
And so on.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)and I probably should have used the little "sarcasm" thingy
Yes, there are laws regarding "interfering with the mail" -- none of which are even remotely in play when it comes to mismanagement (even if deliberate -- although good luck proving that) by a presidential appointee. So again -- what's the charge?
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Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Selecting zip codes that are Republican and letting them go forward, while holding back zip codes from Democratic areas.
Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)authority to use drop boxes at election points or I assume USPS drop boxes. So this is a coordinated effort.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,585 posts)We might not be able to stop him, but we can shed a lot of daylight on his malfeasance.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)Rep. Porter will open a can of.....well, you know.
BComplex
(8,036 posts)mac56
(17,566 posts)kneecaps its own postal service?
dchill
(38,472 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)Some ideas: Other delivery services step in to help deliver ballots.
Volunteer deputies help deliver ballots.
Curbside ballot boxes
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Getting ballots FROM people and delivering in bulk - suspicious.
Republican operatives gathered absentee ballots in bulk and then didn't deliver them (because the votes were likely for the Democratic candidate). Enough of this happened that the NC Board of Elections did not certify the results and the winner of that election called for a new vote.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article226581269.html
Pains me to say this but FedEx, UPS or DHL may be alternative methods. Or instead of taking people to the polls take people to drop off the ballots at an approved secure dropbox.
Volaris
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Marthe48
(16,935 posts)dejoy's directives?
Surely they go against postal regulations, and union guidelines.
I can just imagine next move: dejoy to Postal Worker: "You're not keeping up on mail delivery." Postal Worker to dejoy: "You shut down the sorting machines.' dejoy: "You're fired."
What's next, do away with zip codes?
I hope that like the team in Major League, when their owner does all she can to make them lose, like pos dejoy is doing, the Post office comes out on top.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)Who will join me?
634-5789
(4,175 posts)John Oliver had a segment about the PO, and asked people to buy stamps. We bought $53 worth. Gonna use them eventually, so why not now?
Traildogbob
(8,716 posts)So many seniors and veterans get their life saving meds through the mail. Most are delivered based on subscriptions being renewed/replenished that must be taken without gaps in doseage. He DONT fucking care. Seniors and VETS. The VA requires you to have your meds delivered through mail. Those same people, as well as millions more are not getting bills until AFTER due dates, then getting big late due charges on fixed incomes.
I turned in my Taxes April 10th with returns due, as do many others. Those tax returns would be money back into the economy and really help out of work people. We are at August, still no tax returns, coming up on 4 months. At this point in this regime I would not be surprised if they cancel due tax returns. Never waited more than 6 weeks....ever.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)how is this not criminal?
ancianita
(36,023 posts)and notifications of filed charges.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)I hate these motherfuckers!!!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)They will pay a price for allowing trump to do this to us. Its driving more states blue.
mike507
(12 posts)deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Criminal referral seems in order too, though Bilious Barr will obviously ignore that.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)with the US Mail big time. Tampering also w/ mail in ballots is a crime too, both federal and state.
dejoy and his wife will find out very shortly that it's a crime that they wished they hadn't engaged in. Another thing that Biden will have to put on his list of things to clean up afterwards.
I don't appreciate anyone screwing around w/ my mail, no matter where it is at, period.
If someone is tampering w/ the mail, in my mailbox or anywhere else while in transit, it's not a good thing and there is no legitimate excuse ('opps, I put the wrong thing in there' etc. types of excuses). This is a federal crime.
crickets
(25,962 posts)It's also sabotaging a part of the national infrastructure in a way that negatively effects national security. trump may think he can just wave a hand and make the mail slow down without repercussions but that just isn't so. In essence, he has asked a government employee to attack part of the national defense and to preemptively tamper with an election. Bad mistake, and it's time to call them all on it.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)FelineOverlord
(3,574 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)Thank you, hadn't seen that!
crickets
(25,962 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)FelineOverlord
(3,574 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)NBachers
(17,107 posts)whats with the weird digits/numbers in the text?
bonniebgood
(940 posts)mail sorting machines are some of the most Awesome machines on the planet. it can sort 1 piece of mail per second.
there is no reason to shut them down. they are not broken. this is fu'ed to high heavens
DSandra
(999 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)Why is Trump undermining our military members' ability to vote?
We already know he hates our troops.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Such blatant, obvious cheating and fucking over the country in multiple ways...
Cha
(297,154 posts)business by Mail should be on this SHIT:nuike:
FUCKERS NEED a LESSON they're Never Forget.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)not too long ago. He said not as much mail, but lots of packages.
Cha
(297,154 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)because most Americans of any political affiliation depend on and respect the postal service, especially in these troubled times.
And people tend to vote on issues like this, that affect them directly - even when they ignore larger issues.
IOW, while Trump may be thinking this will help him suppress votes/steal the election - we need to make this the coup de grâce that finishes off Trump and the GOP across the country.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Congress (they're the only branch upholding the Constitution right now) should send a cease and desist letter to Le Joy, demand all internal USPS systems slowdowns be returned to their operation levels before his appointment, subpoena him before the House and admit the facts of what he's done.
dalton99a
(81,453 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)I've seen this somewhere, but couldn't find it in this thread. I'd only ever heard that it must be POSTMARKED by election day. Does anyone have solid info?
tia
las
KPN
(15,642 posts)Not a lawyer, but I can theorize and hope.