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Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:47 PM Jul 2020

Trump is Using Us': Christian Republican Group Warns People Not to Vote For Trump in 2020 Election

A group of Republicans is urging Christians and Republicans to not re-elect Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

According to the Pew Research Center survey in July, White evangelical approval of Trump has slipped, but 8 in 10 say they would still vote for him.


The recent release ad, entitled “Trump is Using Us,” features six Republican voters who talk about how Trump uses and manipulates Christians.

In the minute-long video posted on the Republican Voters Against Trump YouTube channel, the group explains that the president doesn’t reflect Christianity or values based on his words and actions.

One major highlight of the video was the comments Trump made following a violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017. At the time, he said there were “very fine people on both sides” when talking about protesters and rally-goers.

They also brought up Trump retweeting a man shouting “white power!” on his Twitter page.

More: https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2020/07/trump-is-using-us-christian-republican-group-warns-people-not-to-vote-for-trump-in-2020-election?PageSpeed=noscript&fbclid=IwAR1XV9FMVyfCnpG2QruKssxc44saWYLijEOn66KwaI3fFeCSmpM5VDmV5Kc

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Trump is Using Us': Christian Republican Group Warns People Not to Vote For Trump in 2020 Election (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jul 2020 OP
Of course he is. That's what he does. And "Everything Trump Touches Dies". SharonAnn Jul 2020 #1
Republicans have been doing it for decades gratuitous Jul 2020 #2
Actually, the opposite is also true. Mariana Jul 2020 #13
They are also using him. Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #18
What do you get lonely bird Jul 2020 #36
And concentration camps where "undesirables" die of neglect in squalid conditions. lambchopp59 Aug 2020 #52
No argument lonely bird Aug 2020 #58
As so-called christians, (hypocrite) should be included demosincebirth Aug 2020 #45
Do you think these people aren't Christians? nt. Mariana Aug 2020 #46
If they believe what trump says and does is is ok...? Then You can answer demosincebirth Aug 2020 #48
WOW! Cha Jul 2020 #3
What was their first clue? dchill Jul 2020 #4
You win the thread malaise Jul 2020 #11
Thank you! dchill Jul 2020 #16
Can't get anything by Christians... they'll catch on every time... eventually KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #54
Kind of tough to backtrack when y'all claim he was chosen by God. TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #5
I always agree & mention God's ALWAYS in contol. They agree. "So God chose Obama too" oldsoftie Aug 2020 #44
Excellent response! RMVet Aug 2020 #47
How many of these men are losing money, their jobs or their businesses? displacedtexan Jul 2020 #6
Well they can't even collect the tithes malaise Jul 2020 #12
Are they ice skating in Hell yet?? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #7
That's right "You are the sucker" JDC Jul 2020 #8
They weren't convinced when they found out Ilsa Jul 2020 #9
None of that matters now. He's a Christian and God has forgiven him. Mariana Jul 2020 #15
Even though tRump has never confessed or asked for forgiveness robbob Jul 2020 #25
So many popular and influential Christian leaders say he's a Christian. Mariana Jul 2020 #26
Don't be so sure they know his faith better than you JHB Jul 2020 #38
I hope a reporter brings this up again, like they did in 2015 or 2016. Ilsa Jul 2020 #40
Franklin is like Donnie lonely bird Jul 2020 #35
Let every Christian Republican see the light and stand with us against Trump. Doodley Jul 2020 #10
God works in a very mysterious ways mshasta Jul 2020 #14
"Christian Republican." dchill Jul 2020 #17
Minds like steel traps, these folks dflprincess Jul 2020 #19
They are reaping what they sowed - as have 150,000 + Deceased Americans. Tommymac Jul 2020 #20
Wow. They figured that out, did they? BobTheSubgenius Jul 2020 #21
"the president doesn't reflect Christianity or values based on his words and actions." pazzyanne Jul 2020 #22
A classic case of the "Blind leading the Blind" cheezmaka Aug 2020 #60
If only someone had alerted them to this appalling discovery! NBachers Jul 2020 #23
80% are still going to vote for the anti-christ? SergeStorms Jul 2020 #24
"White power!" is a feature, not a flaw... Martin Eden Jul 2020 #27
They will vote for him because he is supposedly 'pro-life' n/t KWR65 Jul 2020 #28
LOL, Trump is the perfect face man for American style evangelicals Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #29
Trump and his evangelicals bumper sticker keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #30
They are the ones who have been using him. StevieM Jul 2020 #31
A symbiotic relationship. StarryNite Aug 2020 #57
8 in 10 white evangelicals say they would still vote for him because dalton99a Jul 2020 #32
K and R Stuart G Jul 2020 #33
So unlike. Marcuse Jul 2020 #34
Took them four years to figure that out? Aristus Jul 2020 #37
Finally! Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #39
They've Got Their Judges AnnieBW Jul 2020 #41
Not A Peep For 3.5 Years ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #42
LOL!!! They're just figuring this out now? GoCubsGo Jul 2020 #43
It's not exactly common knowledge but the KKK thinks they are Christians. MasonDreams Aug 2020 #49
A real Christian would never vote for Trump bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #50
"Christian Republicans" Skittles Aug 2020 #51
Trumpian "christianity": lambchopp59 Aug 2020 #53
The ad is missing one example. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #55
David Kuo wrote a book about being used as a Christian, policy advisor in the G.W. Bush betsuni Aug 2020 #56
Been nice if they would have figured that out Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #59

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Republicans have been doing it for decades
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jul 2020

Hopefully, hearing it from members of their own tribe, more evangelicals will take a hard look at what they've become. Is "winning" worth the price of your soul? I've heard from a lot of evangelicals that nothing is more important to them than their souls. In return, they've gotten a bowl of pottage. Maybe these folks can start the Esau Project or something.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
13. Actually, the opposite is also true.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jul 2020

The Evangelicals have been using and manipulating the Republican Party for decades, to get what they want, which is primarily the legal oppression of women, LGBT people, and non-Christians. They're hardly the innocent party in this.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
52. And concentration camps where "undesirables" die of neglect in squalid conditions.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

Exactly what the many of the so called "loving evangelicals" want for me and my LGBTQ sort.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
44. I always agree & mention God's ALWAYS in contol. They agree. "So God chose Obama too"
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 10:32 AM
Aug 2020

Then they realize they have nowhere to go after agreeing that God is always in control!!
I've pissed off a few.........

RMVet

(25 posts)
47. Excellent response!
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:12 PM
Aug 2020

I like to use "Trump insults my intelligence". Of course their response is "crickets....". Sometimes I even give examples of 45 insulting my intelligence (there are so many) and they reply with "more crickets....". Eventually they change the subject. Hopefully I've given them something to think about 🤔.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
6. How many of these men are losing money, their jobs or their businesses?
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jul 2020

So now, they've seen the light or Baby Jesus, and they suddenly see that Trump is using them? Oh. Right. Sure.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
9. They weren't convinced when they found out
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jul 2020

he is a rapist, cheats on his 3rd wife who has just given birth, illegally uses campaign funds as hush money, makes racist statements, is beholden to Putin and Russia? What finally got them to change their minds about his character? I'd really like to know.

Franklin Graham has been conspicuously quiet, too.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
15. None of that matters now. He's a Christian and God has forgiven him.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jul 2020

Just like it never happened.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
25. Even though tRump has never confessed or asked for forgiveness
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jul 2020

And even said in an interview that he doesn’t need to because he’s never done anything wrong. The complete antithesis of the basic fundamental basis of Christianity.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
26. So many popular and influential Christian leaders say he's a Christian.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:53 AM
Jul 2020

Some of those Christian leaders know Trump personally, so they obviously know a lot more about his faith than I do. I'm certainly not in any position to argue with them. Thousands of Christian churches are preaching that he's God's own hand-picked president, put in office to implement God's will, and that support for him is essentially a tenet of their Christian faith. I'm not in any position to argue with that, either. It wouldn't be out of character for God to choose someone like Trump. The Bible is stuffed with stories about men who did much worse things than Trump has ever dreamed of doing, whom God put into positions of great power, and showered with His favor and His blessings.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
38. Don't be so sure they know his faith better than you
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

Some of those leaders believe it because they want to believe it, and others see him as too good an opportunity to push their agenda to pass up, so they just declare him so, with the usual excuses for his faltering.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
40. I hope a reporter brings this up again, like they did in 2015 or 2016.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jul 2020

I'd love for his christian followers to hear him say that he hasn't ever done anything that requires forgiveness, so why should he ask?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
20. They are reaping what they sowed - as have 150,000 + Deceased Americans.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:13 PM
Jul 2020

Fuck Them and their holier then thou smugness.

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
22. "the president doesn't reflect Christianity or values based on his words and actions."
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jul 2020

I'm shocked, I tell you, simply shocked! NOT!!!

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
24. 80% are still going to vote for the anti-christ?
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jul 2020

They haven't learned a damned thing. Hypocrites, every one. Oh, but they did get conservative judges! But the country is going to be run by Democrats for the foreseeable future, so it's free abortions for everyone! Even the men!

Freaking idiots. How the hell can they look at themselves in their mirrors each morning? Christians my ass.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
29. LOL, Trump is the perfect face man for American style evangelicals
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jul 2020

Their entire religion is based upon violence towards women and there is no better example of that than Trump. He's the perfect Conservative Christian to them.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
31. They are the ones who have been using him.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jul 2020

First, they got to declare that their hatefulness was validated. They got to spew venom at our fine former first lady and declare themselves proven right, under the mantra that history is written by the winners. Ironically enough, it was actually Comey who got that for them, not Trump. But voting for Trump is what made it happen.

Second, they got the judges they want.

I assure you...these people have no regrets.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
39. Finally!
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jul 2020

I don’t know the provenance of Beliefnet , but they caught my attention. Trump has from day one tried to drive a wedge between rabid evangelicals and traditional Christians / people of other faiths.

Finally, the non-evangelical side has found its voice. They need to be isolated and shouted down.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
43. LOL!!! They're just figuring this out now?
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

Seems they've been asleep for the past 40 or 50 years, because that's how long the entire GOP has been using them.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
49. It's not exactly common knowledge but the KKK thinks they are Christians.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:40 AM
Aug 2020

People have very very different ideas about bring a good Christian. I just never could understand the contradictions being do blatant as they clearly are. Crusades happened. Why?

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
55. The ad is missing one example.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:40 PM
Aug 2020


I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
56. David Kuo wrote a book about being used as a Christian, policy advisor in the G.W. Bush
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:53 PM
Aug 2020

administration. "Tempting Faith, An Inside Story of Political Seduction."

Anyone who can't see this deserves the idiom: they don't have the sense God gave geese.

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