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BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:24 PM Jul 2020

Mail carriers have been told to "slow down",

"Trump’s newly appointed postmaster general Louis DeJoy is deliberately slowing down the mail service months before Americans will need to vote by mail. For context: He has donated millions to Trump and Republicans, and held millions in USPS competitors."

"Trump's new postmaster general could corrupt a key institution ahead of Election Day
We can't let Trump get away with his attacks on the Postal Service — and our electoral system."
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-2020-usps-appointment-could-corrupt-key-institution-ahead-ncna1234125

* Local mailmen confirmed they have all officially been told to "SLOW THE MAIL DOWN," per trump's Postmaster General.
So, for mail-in ballots:
SEND THEM 21 DAYS EARLY.
Mail on Oct. 13th. Do not wait.

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Mail carriers have been told to "slow down", (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jul 2020 OP
Or drop your mail in ballot in the ballot box yourself. No standing in line, no crowds Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #1
exactly! i have convenience of ballot mailed to me but I personally drop in elections bin SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #10
Same same. BadgerMom Jul 2020 #38
Thats what I do marlakay Jul 2020 #46
That is what I do as well. ChazII Jul 2020 #55
Not all states have ballot boxes. LisaL Jul 2020 #25
We need to consult Albert Einstein. Ilsa Jul 2020 #2
Well, I can tell you that a LOT of people get their prescriptions through the mail. BComplex Jul 2020 #47
If you were nearby, I'd give you a few synthroid tablets to get you over the hump. Ilsa Jul 2020 #48
That's so nice! BComplex Jul 2020 #52
Are you in north Georgia? NT Ilsa Jul 2020 #53
No. North Carolina. BComplex Jul 2020 #54
Nope. Sure don't. triron Jul 2020 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2020 #3
Did someone ask "What does a yellow light mean?" csziggy Jul 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2020 #12
And cons support this, we have to think of something other than the election... Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #4
DeJoy is on a long list of people SoCalNative Jul 2020 #5
I posted a few days ago that Costco mail order pharmacy Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #6
I'll just deliver mine to the county registrar 2naSalit Jul 2020 #7
One report. Igel Jul 2020 #9
Every website I buy from has a statement on the front page Arkansas Granny Jul 2020 #11
I thought this tweet was just hearsay, but there are so many comments backing it up I believe it renate Jul 2020 #13
That's why I posted it. BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #14
I'll just put mine in the township clerk's dropbox. roamer65 Jul 2020 #15
Taking mine to the closest drop off location. ChazII Jul 2020 #16
Chicago is being deliberately bottlenecked. Personal examples: Grokenstein Jul 2020 #17
I've seen this before.. but, What the Bloody HELL.. how the Fuck Cha Jul 2020 #18
It doesn't have to be legal. Trump does it, then count on the issue being tied up in Court for Blue_true Jul 2020 #28
We Have to Get Rid of that Puppet for Putin. Cha Jul 2020 #32
He is trying to make us doing that as hard as possible. Blue_true Jul 2020 #33
I know.. I just saw this.. Voting here is All Mail in Ballot Cha Jul 2020 #36
As of Saturday, my friend from high school, who lives in Philadelphia... Efilroft Sul Jul 2020 #19
Rachel needs to do a story on this New Breed Leader Jul 2020 #20
The Letter Carriers Union NALC supported Bernie. Captain Zero Jul 2020 #23
They sent a notice to people on some streets in Seattle that they will be stopping home delivery. SeattleVet Jul 2020 #21
Pay your bills as early as you can! Delmette2.0 Jul 2020 #22
We need the banks and credit card companies pushing Trump NCjack Jul 2020 #29
Good suggestions. Delmette2.0 Jul 2020 #40
We need the banks and credit card companies pushing Trump NCjack Jul 2020 #30
In Virginia ConstanceCee Jul 2020 #24
Virginia resident here phylny Jul 2020 #45
I plan to early vote, in person. nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #26
How much you want to bet they "slow down" mail in democratic zip codes only? tinrobot Jul 2020 #27
During his hearing yesterday Fubar said he would follow the law in regards KS Toronado Jul 2020 #31
Another Asshole mdbl Jul 2020 #34
I would go as far to say send them in as soon as you get them jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #35
this is fucking evil and enraging LymphocyteLover Jul 2020 #37
I am eliminating the postal service with my ballot Sunsky Jul 2020 #39
I'm getting a bad feeling from all this mail-in ballot stuff... Blue Owl Jul 2020 #41
Putting a ballot in the mail is now like sending your vote to Trump. live love laugh Jul 2020 #42
Everyone reading this should talk to their PO carrier ASAP and report back, nt greyl Jul 2020 #43
thank goodness mnmoderatedem Jul 2020 #44
I'm not voting by mail... jimlup Jul 2020 #49
So that's why my plants are sitting at the post office milestogo Jul 2020 #51
 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
10. exactly! i have convenience of ballot mailed to me but I personally drop in elections bin
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jul 2020

outside the library or other official locations days before election

ChazII

(6,198 posts)
55. That is what I do as well.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jul 2020

This primary is no different. I went to my library and dropped it in the ballot box.

Ilsa

(61,676 posts)
2. We need to consult Albert Einstein.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jul 2020

My Amazon package is lost for the first time ever, and an internet purchase shipped through fedex is taking excessively long.

I think it is all slowing down. There's something involving physics happening here!

I will possibly vote in person in November. I've never had to wait very long.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
47. Well, I can tell you that a LOT of people get their prescriptions through the mail.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jul 2020

I'm 5 days past my thyroid Rx delivery. Not something you want to be without.

Ilsa

(61,676 posts)
48. If you were nearby, I'd give you a few synthroid tablets to get you over the hump.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jul 2020

I don't do well emotionally with just a lower dose, much less without.

Maybe your dr can write the next script to include 50% more taken over the same time period, but take your regular dosage. This will give you a few weeks (or a month) of buffer in case supplies or the mail is slow.

Hope your stuff comes today!

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
54. No. North Carolina.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jul 2020

But I do keep back a few pills just in case. A few years ago, we went through a national shortage of thyroid medicine. Since then, I've been squirreling some away every time.

Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

Response to csziggy (Reply #8)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
4. And cons support this, we have to think of something other than the election...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:40 PM
Jul 2020

Elections were for the old America...

New America, not so much.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
5. DeJoy is on a long list of people
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jul 2020

who should be relieved of their positions, by force if necessary, on January 21, 2021.

Dem2theMax

(9,595 posts)
6. I posted a few days ago that Costco mail order pharmacy
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jul 2020

told me that for the past month, they have been having problems getting medications delivered to their customers.

They use UPS to have the medications picked up and then delivered to the USPS. My medication moved quite quickly while it was in the hands of UPS. The minute it hit the post office it came to a dead halt. It sat in a post office two hours from my house for three days.

I had to contact Costco, who then contacted the post office, and then it finally started to move. Took three weeks to get a medication that should have taken a week at the most to receive.

Gentleman at Costco mail order told me this has been going on for a month. Their customers are extremely frustrated. The employees at Costco mail order spend all day on the phone dealing with upset customers and tracking their orders.

I'm quite sure the guy at Costco knew why it was happening. We both danced around the 'why,' but I'm quite sure he knew it was because of Trump.

What better way to get people mad at the USPS, than to delay their medications. A lot of these people won't take the time to find out why it's happening. They will just listen to Trump saying 'the post office is horrible, we need to get rid of it.' And the sheep will fall for it.

2naSalit

(86,074 posts)
7. I'll just deliver mine to the county registrar
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jul 2020

myself. No muss no fuss. And early, like the same day it arrives.

Arkansas Granny

(31,484 posts)
11. Every website I buy from has a statement on the front page
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jul 2020

that due to increased volume, we should anticipate shipments to take longer to arrive.

I am probably placing 30% to 50% more online orders than I was 6 months ago. I haven't been inside a brick and mortar store since March. I'm ordering all my groceries and household goods and having them delivered.

If I'm relying on USPS, UPS etc, it's likely that others are doing the same. Deliveries have been delayed, a couple of items have been lost only to show up weeks after replacements have arrived.

IMO, it's more likely that this increased load is responsible more than some orchestrated plot.

Grokenstein

(5,707 posts)
17. Chicago is being deliberately bottlenecked. Personal examples:
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jul 2020

Several weeks ago, I ordered a package from the UK. Four days to ship from London to Chicago; then it switched to USPS and took ten days to get from Chicago to the San Francisco Bay Area. Tracking was "unavailable" until it arrived. That was in the early stage.

More recently, bought a book on eBay. Shipped with tracking from Indiana on the 16th, hit Chicago the next day. Poof! It's gone! Just turned up this morning in Idaho...almost two full weeks later.

Shipments passing through anywhere else: no delays. Stuff sent from Houston or Atlanta arrives in two days. Going through Chicago? At the rate things are going, by next week it'll take a month.

And I have zero doubt the slowdown will be deliberately spread to every hub well before the election.

Mail early--and spread the word to every forum.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
18. I've seen this before.. but, What the Bloody HELL.. how the Fuck
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jul 2020

can that be LEGAL?!

I know it doesn't matter if it's legal or NOT for Fucking TREASONOUS ASSHOLES.

This Needs to BE VIRAL!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. It doesn't have to be legal. Trump does it, then count on the issue being tied up in Court for
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jul 2020

months.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. He is trying to make us doing that as hard as possible.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:04 PM
Jul 2020

People need to be aware and have a plan concerning voting. I plan to vote early, in person, but if Trump prevents 5% of our voters from voting, then just people like me voting may not be enough.

Efilroft Sul

(3,573 posts)
19. As of Saturday, my friend from high school, who lives in Philadelphia...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jul 2020

…had not received ANY mail for a week.

I haven't had a chance to chat her up on Facebook since, but, still, A FREAKING WEEK!

Captain Zero

(6,715 posts)
23. The Letter Carriers Union NALC supported Bernie.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe the NALC can provide some insight to the pressure on or directions to their members? I would assume the NALC supports Biden and would not do a slow down that would harm their reputation.

SeattleVet

(5,468 posts)
21. They sent a notice to people on some streets in Seattle that they will be stopping home delivery.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

Seattle has closed several miles of streets in a 'Stay Healthy Streets' plan that allows only delivery and residents, along with a mix of pedestrians and bicycles.

Residents on some of those streets recently got the following note from the USPS that it was no longer safe for the letter carriers to drive/deliver on those streets, so people would have to go to a main branch office a few miles away to pick up their mail, on weekdays between 8AM and 4PM. Yeah, that'll work for the people that have to go to work on a regular basis, or the seniors in the neighborhood that get medications delivered by mail, and others that may not be able to make the trip to get their mail.



(One resident posted today that they did get their mail, so they may have delayed or modified this action.)

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
29. We need the banks and credit card companies pushing Trump
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jul 2020

to take his knee off the neck of the USPO, so it can breathe. I suggest that we stop all transactions by our home computers and go back to the letter carrier.

Send greetings to a friend? Mail a card.

I frequently send images from NC to a friend in OR. Now, I will mail a thumbdrive.

The idea is to jam up the USPO to the point that it is intolerable to financial institutions.

But, I will do early voting in person or mail in a ballot early.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
30. We need the banks and credit card companies pushing Trump
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jul 2020

to take his knee off the neck of the USPO, so it can breathe. I suggest that we stop all transactions by our home computers and go back to the letter carrier.

Send greetings to a friend? Mail a card.

I frequently send images from NC to a friend in OR. Now, I will mail a thumbdrive.

The idea is to jam up the USPO to the point that it is intolerable to financial institutions.

But, I will do early voting in person or mail in a ballot early.

ConstanceCee

(313 posts)
24. In Virginia
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jul 2020

In Virginia, with mail in ballots, there is a feature that allows you to check that your ballot was received and your vote was recorded. We also have early in-person voting for 45 days before election day. Look at voteva2020.com.

KS Toronado

(16,918 posts)
31. During his hearing yesterday Fubar said he would follow the law in regards
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jul 2020

to mail in ballots postmarks. So is this what trumpig and his buddies are up to?
Are they getting their ducks in a row so on Nov 3rd they can claim " We're behind
deliveries because of coronovirus so naturally some ballots did not get postmarked
properly for the election officials, SO SORRY YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT"


mdbl

(4,972 posts)
34. Another Asshole
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jul 2020

I am sorry but that's all that comes to mind when i hear about these people. This should be a crime to slow the mail down on purpose. Hopefully we will get a justice dept that gives a shit again some day.

jorgevlorgan

(8,232 posts)
35. I would go as far to say send them in as soon as you get them
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jul 2020

Dont trust them to be mailed in an efficient manner.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
39. I am eliminating the postal service with my ballot
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jul 2020

In Broward County, we can drop our ballots off at the SOE office. They have dropboxes for mail-in ballots. I'll do that.
A mail person from Wisconsin (I think) called Randi Rhodes today and reported that she's being told by her supervisor not to touch the mail-in ballots.

Blue Owl

(49,939 posts)
41. I'm getting a bad feeling from all this mail-in ballot stuff...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:30 AM
Jul 2020

Mainly because the USPS postmaster is a tRump crony -- that just opens the door to all kinds of cheating and fraud.

I can just see it now, trays of ballots suddenly mysteriously 'vanishing' or being opened and 'sorted' behind closed doors.

If we've learned anything, it's that the GOP would step on its own grandmother to win.

live love laugh

(13,010 posts)
42. Putting a ballot in the mail is now like sending your vote to Trump.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 04:07 AM
Jul 2020

Early isn’t necessarily any better in the face of unprecedented corruption of another government institution.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
49. I'm not voting by mail...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jul 2020

If I decide to vote absentee for the General I will carry my ballot down to the city clerk myself.

I don't think I will however, I think I have to vote in person for the General. Too much funny business from the cheating republican opponents and too much at stake.

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