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Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 07:55 AM Jul 2020

Another thing Democrats need to learn from The Lincoln Project

By now I am sure there are several posts on the Greatest Page linking to the Susan Collin's ad that was dropped this morning at 7:04 a.m. EDT. It's a thing of beauty. Their two teaser tweets last night were delicious.

But what is equally important to note is that The Press Herald in Portland, ME posted an article about the ad at 7:00 a.m. and updated the article with the embedded tweet some time between 7:04 and 7:29 a.m.

The Lincoln Project may be seen as masters of social media and the evocative video ad, but that isn't where their true genius lies. Let the timing of this sink in. It's masterful, and we'd be insane not to take note.




ETA: For clarification, down ballot Democrats typically get little to no support or training regarding the broader context in which to drop social media. The majority of the commentary I have seen about the Lincoln Project has focused on the amazing impact of their ads and not how they also dramatically coordinate the drop.

It's not just a matter of creating and posting a phenomenal ad and hoping the impact gives it viral traction. It's not just sending out a press release about the ad. It's about cultivating the contacts and relationships to ensure the press release is used and used in a way you want it to be. It's about determining which media outlets will be the most effective and impactful in spreading the message to a particularly targeted audience. It's about timing the various media pieces to the extent possible prior to publication.

The newspaper posted a story minutes before the ad was actually released. The newspaper is an important one in Maine owned by Maine Today Media - a privately owned publisher of daily and weekly newspapers in Maine, based in the state's largest city, Portland, and includes the Portland Press Herald and Maine Sunday Telegram, the state's largest newspaper.

These are the steps Democrats sometimes skip, take for granted, or are unaware of how it can both amplify and target the message. That part shouldn't get lost in the "wow" factor of the ad itself.

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Another thing Democrats need to learn from The Lincoln Project (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 OP
Concerned. Verklempt. Worried. Bothered. Ohhh, Susan. Funtatlaguy Jul 2020 #1
How to send a press release? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #2
A wee bit more than that. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #3
Help me out. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #9
"It's about cultivating the contacts and relationships to ensure the press release is used and used WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #12
Yes. It is basic PR. That's the point. Squinch Jul 2020 #15
Oh, I got confused when basic PR was described as "pure genius." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #17
Thanks for putting me in my place. Have a nice day. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #19
The very basic sonnet form... MrModerate Jul 2020 #27
And I hope our side LEARNS from them. calimary Jul 2020 #55
As a comfort, keep in mind that... MrModerate Jul 2020 #57
The Genius Part to Me Was Telegraphing Yesterday That The Ad Would Drop This Morning Indykatie Jul 2020 #21
Yes exactly. This ad is nice for us to watch. It is ESSENTIAL that Mainers watch it. The fact Squinch Jul 2020 #26
Great ad Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #4
How to reach people? Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #5
You're saying the speed of social media beats traditional press releases? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #6
No, that isn't what I'm saying. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #7
Ok, I seem to be missing your point - can you elaborate? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #8
I edited the OP for clarification. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #11
OK thanks for the media education. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
I honestly don't know if something happened in Maine or with the Collins' campaign... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #31
Timing and rollout. ancianita Jul 2020 #10
Counter-propaganda works when immediate, clear, on point, & targets audience that got propaganda Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #14
Not sure why people are resisting your message on this, but you are absolutely right. Squinch Jul 2020 #16
Thank you. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #18
That is painfully obvious, and we only have to look at the Lincoln Project and the splash they Squinch Jul 2020 #20
+1000 CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #37
R's excel at controlling the narrative. Usually with deceptive messaging. JudyM Jul 2020 #43
Well said. I totally agree. BComplex Jul 2020 #51
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #24
Advertising is easier to understand if you are a sociopath PurgedVoter Jul 2020 #42
I don't think it is so much resisting drmeow Jul 2020 #45
aka, "When you're hot, you're hot." MrModerate Jul 2020 #22
:) Agree. But if everything goes as we need it to, Hortensis Jul 2020 #25
Not to mention that Dems need a principled opposition... MrModerate Jul 2020 #28
No kidding! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #30
Like great generals always prepared and ready for attack. Hortensis Jul 2020 #23
Been saying this for years... WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #29
I think you're exactly right on this sammythecat Jul 2020 #58
And remember: On January 21, they start dropping these on us. marble falls Jul 2020 #32
A comprehensive, well-thought our approach is usually most effective dlk Jul 2020 #33
Another aspect of the timing GusBob Jul 2020 #34
There's a definite advantage to having material that writes itself. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #35
This is an excellent post and spot on DIVINEprividence Jul 2020 #36
I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Dem party (in general) is not good at messaging. CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #38
Democrats can be too pc and nice at times DIVINEprividence Jul 2020 #39
You must be experiencing a bit of exasperation from some of the posts below. The LP PatrickforO Jul 2020 #40
I completely agree with you DenverJared Jul 2020 #41
The right in this country drmeow Jul 2020 #44
Ok Pacifist Patriot! We hire YOU!!! BComplex Jul 2020 #46
. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #47
Is that a "no"? BComplex Jul 2020 #48
Knock it off please. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #49
I just got back here with time to read the entire thread. BComplex Jul 2020 #53
Thanks, I appreciate that. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #54
I didn't realize you had actually worked on the ground with this. BComplex Jul 2020 #56
WTF? Wednesdays Jul 2020 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #52

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
12. "It's about cultivating the contacts and relationships to ensure the press release is used and used
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:22 AM
Jul 2020
in a way you want it to be. It's about determining which media outlets will be the most effective and impactful in spreading the message to a particularly targeted audience. It's about timing the various media pieces to the extent possible prior to publication."


Which is basic PR. You write a press release saying you're releasing an ad focusing on a local lightning-rod politician, send it to that politician's hometown papers, put a 7 a.m. embargo on it and release the ad as soon as the embargo expires. There's very little cultivation required there.

I mean, obviously it helps to have a good ad and screw-ups happen all the time. But let's not make the mistake of thinking that the Lincoln Project has just delivered a masterstroke, or anything.
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
27. The very basic sonnet form...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

In the right hands, becomes a work of genius.

These guys are very, very good.

calimary

(81,123 posts)
55. And I hope our side LEARNS from them.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jul 2020

We badly need to.

Their side is helping us ... now. Re: trump.

They will NOT be helping us later on.

We HAVE TO learn this. Now. While the teachers are pulling with us. Next time they’ll be back working for the other side again - AGAINST us.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
57. As a comfort, keep in mind that...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jul 2020

Republicans still have no valuable ideas and a whole bunch of retrogrades pols hanging around their increasingly decrepit tent.

If we can't turn reality into a political advantage, then shame on us.

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
21. The Genius Part to Me Was Telegraphing Yesterday That The Ad Would Drop This Morning
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jul 2020

The release of each new LP ad has become something of an "event". Twitter was alight yesterday with folks drooling over the coming ad on Susan Collins. That's probably how the local press knew run a story on the ad so early. I wouldn't be surprised if they already had the ad when their story was posted.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
26. Yes exactly. This ad is nice for us to watch. It is ESSENTIAL that Mainers watch it. The fact
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

it is highlighted in Maine in multiple media outlets before the drop makes the targeted audience, including people that might not otherwise go looking for it, go look for it.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
5. How to reach people?
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jul 2020

Pay million$ to buy ads, or know that public relations and viral sharing are more powerful at influencing an advertising-saturated person?

Even an idiot can sell something by riding on the waves of free media advertising covering the “buzz”. It worked in 2016.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. You're saying the speed of social media beats traditional press releases?
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jul 2020

I'm not a Twit user but it does seem to work.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. OK thanks for the media education.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:22 AM
Jul 2020

So the point is who you roll it out to, and how you coordinate with them, and time it to their cycles. Is it also about timing relative to news events? For example, did something happen in Maine or Collins' campaign, which triggered the ad?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
31. I honestly don't know if something happened in Maine or with the Collins' campaign...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jul 2020

to inspire the Lincoln Project to target her on this specific date. I'll admit I've not paid that close attention lately.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
14. Counter-propaganda works when immediate, clear, on point, & targets audience that got propaganda
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:26 AM
Jul 2020

The Lincoln Project knows this because they frequently hit all four aspects.

When it is backed up by alerting the media (possibly via teasers you mention), it has extra impact.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
18. Thank you.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jul 2020

Yes, people who know PR know this is standard stuff, so I'm not surprised they are scratching their heads over why I would bother pointing this out.

But many Democrats running for office do not know PR and we, as a party, do a poor job educating and executing standard PR stuff effectively. I have attended countless candidate and campaign training events over the years and have yet to encounter this topic handled well, if it is handled at all. I never understood that.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
20. That is painfully obvious, and we only have to look at the Lincoln Project and the splash they
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:44 AM
Jul 2020

have made to understand the truth of it.

I have often said it here, but for some reason people think that amounts to speaking against Democrats. In fact is the exact opposite.

We have a weakness. That weakness is the reason many still view the Republicans as the party of fiscal responsibility when in fact Republicans dependably blow up the economy and let Democrats deal with the fallout. That weakness is the reason many actually fear caravans of criminals, or Antifa, or the idea that stormtroopers will come and take your guns, when in fact the criminals are the republican politicians, the white supremacists actually exist and are actually killing people, and the republican led stormtroopers are actually coming and taking your neighbors and children.

Basic PR is the way to overcome that weakness. It's the way to show that we are the solution to the fears of the easily led. If we would work with that, we could be much stronger.

JudyM

(29,196 posts)
43. R's excel at controlling the narrative. Usually with deceptive messaging.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

We think the truth should speak for itself but clearly it doesn’t.

PurgedVoter

(2,215 posts)
42. Advertising is easier to understand if you are a sociopath
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

Modern advertising is a bit like brainwashing. For proof I present Fox News and their audience. So right off the bat, half of the really good advertising methods are to a good Dem, unthinkable.

drmeow

(5,012 posts)
45. I don't think it is so much resisting
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jul 2020

as not having background knowledge to understand. I kinda got it before reading the clarification but the additional clarification took me from "if you mean what I think you mean then, yeah, I guess so" to "ah - now I get it and, yeah, I agree." Sometimes it's easy to forget that people's knowledge sets can be very different and what's seems crystal clear to the expert is really opaque to someone naive on the topic!

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
22. aka, "When you're hot, you're hot."
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jul 2020

As a Dem, I don't want to face these guys if they ever get a sane Republican party to coalesce around them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) Agree. But if everything goes as we need it to,
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

though, we will. But that's good. It's how democracy has to work again if we're not to be the generations who finally destroyed it.

On the plus side, they wouldn't have Democratic versions of Trump and McConnell and company providing material-on-fire that they just needed to point a camera at. And since new leadership can't control everything in a democracy, we'd be the ones with lots of corrupt Republican relicts to focus the cameras on, including judges.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Like great generals always prepared and ready for attack.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jul 2020

"Corruption, criminality, cruelty."

Three words anyone can take from this and use.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
29. Been saying this for years...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jul 2020
These are the steps Democrats sometimes skip, take for granted, or are unaware of how it can both amplify and target the message.


The Democrats need to drop the political "consultants" and hire some damn elite salespeople. They've got great ideas, but don't seem to know how to get them across, and consultants don't know how to do it either.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
58. I think you're exactly right on this
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

We need to convince these Trumpers not that they're stupid for being so wrong, but that they're smart for seeing how Trump has failed them.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
33. A comprehensive, well-thought our approach is usually most effective
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jul 2020

If Dems can learn & improve outreach by taking a page from someone else’s playbook, why not? Our country’s house is being burned to the ground. No one can deny Republicans are very successful with messaging. Any effective communication methods should be at least considered.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
34. Another aspect of the timing
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jul 2020

They are throwing punches every day on topics that are fresh ( for example the Russian bounty ad)

They do have it easy though in that DT is a scandal machine and such a shitty president that can't seem yo stop making mistakes or keep his mouth shut

lots of material to work with

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
36. This is an excellent post and spot on
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jul 2020

I think the Biden camp is well aware of these strategies and they have some pretty sophisticated marketing folks on their staff. I must admit I was concerned how they would campaign during the Trump Pandemic but I have been pleasantly surprised and impressed so far

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
38. I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Dem party (in general) is not good at messaging.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jul 2020

We do all kinds of great things for the American people, but we don't tell them about it, so most people don't know. We don't tell people (in an effective way that reaches average Americans) how the things we do benefit them & their loved ones. We let Republicans define us with their messaging, to our great detriment.

I love my party but the lack of effective messaging has disappointed me for decades, especially when we have so many GOOD & FACTUAL messages we could be delivering ... yet we don't, we allow Republicans to paint us with lies.

I frustrates the heck out of me. We can do all kinds of great & wonderful things that help Americans, but if they don't know about it, & all they see are messages from the GOP saying the whole country will be on fire if Biden wins, we're losing the battle for their hearts & minds, & losing votes.
 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
39. Democrats can be too pc and nice at times
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

I will say this about the Bernie wing of the party. I do give them credit for putting on the brass knuckles and fighting dirty and cutting to brass tax. They have Republican style message discipline. I think it will make us stronger and more effective in communication. We have to have our heads rule over our hearts at this point. There is a lot of passion, a lot of emotion, a lot of anger. This must always be tempered and channeled toward the ultimate goal VICTORY and filtered through the lense of what enhances our messaging and what doesn’t. “Defund the Police”, an example of absolute piss poor messaging

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
40. You must be experiencing a bit of exasperation from some of the posts below. The LP
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jul 2020

people are in fact quite skilled at when and how to release damaging, even devastating, ads about political opponents. These are the same people who did it to us over the last decade or two.

But PR is like a trade. If you're good at what you do, it looks easy, but it took you years to learn how to do it. Just anybody can't. Our message, for instance, is difficult to get down to a catchy message that brings people on board. Unfortunately, high schools don't teach civics anymore, really. Or geography. Or the real (not watered down by the 'christians' on the TX School Board) history. They don't learn rhetoric or debate. They do not learn logic. High schools don't even teach keyboarding anymore. People have to learn that on their own if they want a decent job.

So like me, instead of talking about getting rid of the current shareholder primacy model by expanding the fiduciary responsibility of C-Suite officers in publicly held companies to a wider group of stakeholders, we need a better message. Because people stare like deer in the lights.

When I talk about monetary and fiscal policy, people stare like deer in the lights.

Fortunately, Biden's people know this, and they have condensed his message into a three-word slogan, "Build Back Better."

That's good messaging.

But back to the LP people. Right now they are on our side because they want to scrape the crazy base away, or at least make them crawl back under their rocks so the Wall Street neocon/neolib people can take back over and try to stabilize the current end-stage capitalist model so it can last just a bit longer. After all, our treasury isn't quite empty yet, and the oligarchs are hungry for more stimulus, while victims are just hungry and sick.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
41. I completely agree with you
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jul 2020

Astonishing that many missed your point.

The genius is in coordinating the various pieces of the puzzle ... building anticipation and then dropping it in such a way that it will get maximum exposure in the targeted audience. They created a newsworthy scenario so it was picked up and distributed by the target media.

Bravo!

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
46. Ok Pacifist Patriot! We hire YOU!!!
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

You are now the prime candidate for our party's messaging guru! We need this position worse than most people know!

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
53. I just got back here with time to read the entire thread.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jul 2020

I had dropped in to check my post replies, but hadn't had time to read a lot of threads. I often just read the first post, and then reply to it, until I can get back. So I was pretty upset yesterday when I saw this reply from you. I had meant no snarkiness at all to your original post when I said you are now the new messaging guru. I actually thought your original post was spot on. We have really needed a messaging specialist for 30 years, so my post was meant more as cheering you on.

It wasn't until I read the whole thread that I realized some people were less than supportive, and I was really shocked. I can't believe there has ever been a doubt that the democratic party has been so weak on getting our message out...THAT, to me, is the one thing the democratic party has failed at, and your original post said it better than I've said it on a few thousand posts I've posted on the topic (under a different name) since 2001 or 2002.

Sorry if I originally sounded as if I was mocking you. I meant the opposite of mockery. I meant only excitement that someone finally nailed the problem.



Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
54. Thanks, I appreciate that.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jul 2020

Sadly, there are some folks here over the years who do make replies like that with all snarkiness and mockery intended. And I actually get where they are coming from. As someone who was in a volunteer leadership position for a non-profit for years, I had more than my fair share of members who were quick to point out the organization's weaknesses while never stepping up to the plate to help address them. Mentally I was thinking, "well if you can spot the problem, be part of the damn solution!" So yeah, I get the impulse and the attitude.

For what it's worth, I do volunteer with local candidates to help them with their PR, messaging, and social media. The sad part is how many have turned down my offer to help thinking they can handle it on their own. Because any damned fool can tweet and post on Facebook, right? And then they go on to demonstrate they haven't a clue. It can get quite frustrating. Again, I understand their perspective so I don't push. I move on to the candidates who do want help.

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
56. I didn't realize you had actually worked on the ground with this.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020
"Contributions or gifts to PolitiFact, which is part of the 501(c)(3) nonprofit Poynter Institute, are tax deductible. More Info. I would like to contribute."

Just pulled this off a Google search to see what business form the Lincoln Project has. I have absolutely NO experience with working in non-profits. I used to run a regular small corporation (just 10 to 12 employees), which has a different financial and legal requirements structure.

However, if the Lincoln Project can raise money for their project, I don't see why such a group could not form for our message, as well. Just thinking of how much enthusiasm the Democratic primary campaigns had, with support and donors, there should be no reason our side couldn't pull something like this together. I mean, for real. The Lincoln Project was started with 3 or 4 disgruntled conservatives, and a few donors. And our side, for the most part, has a much better product to sell to the masses than their side has. And we have something else the other side doesn't have; we have a genuine sense of humor. You look at twitter, and all their side has is hate and bitterness and, well, lies. One of the things I love most about DU posts and tweets from our side is how clever the liberal side truly is!

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we have the talent right here on DU to start such a group.

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