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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElissa Slotkin Is Sounding the Alarm. Will Democrats Listen?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/10/elissa-slotkin-congress-trump-351513When one of Elissa Slotkins staffers passed along a New York Times report alleging that Russia had put bounties on the heads of American troops in Afghanistanand that President Donald Trump either did not consume the relevant intelligence or did not act upon itmy stomach, the Michigan congresswoman says, dropped to my knees.
Slotkin spent the next 72 hours in an incredulous haze. A veteran CIA analyst before coming to Congress in the Democratic wave of 2018, she thought she had seen it all. She had served at length in the Middle East, lost friends and gained Top Secret clearance. She had personally briefed both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, in the White House situation room and in the Oval Office, on grave national security threats. And yet Slotkins imagination could not stretch far enough to accommodate either of the two scenarios now confronting her. How could something so sensitive not reach the president? Or, if it had, how could he have ignored it?
The congresswoman inhaled every bit of news coverage, watching carefully for conflicting details or any confirmation of the original Times story. She called former colleagues in the intel community in search of explanations. Finally, she took to social media, writing a series of uncharacteristically pointed tweets about Trump and Russian strongman Vladimir Putin. Something has been off about that relationship since the beginning, she wrote, and Americans are quite literally paying in blood for his pandering to Putin. The irony was not lost on Slotkin. Here she was, four months out from Election Day, one of the most endangered Democrats in the country, representing a district Trump carried by 7 points, spending her Sunday morning doing precisely what she had vowed to avoid: picking a Twitter fight with the president of the United States.
There will be consequencesof this, Slotkin is certain. She cannot hope to win reelection this fall without persuading a significant number of voters in Michigans 8th Congressional District to split their ticketsfour more years for Trump, two more years for herand every feud with the White House is equivalent to a few more straight-party ballots being punched. Whether Slotkin can have it both ways, speaking her mind about the president and winning over some of his supporters, may well determine not only her fate but the fate of Democrats in swing districts and battleground states across the country.
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live love laugh
(13,074 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Getting the US out of the ILO @ noon
Granting special tax breaks to homes with model trains scheduled for 6 PM but could be replaced by medal of freedom award ceremony for Manafort.
live love laugh
(13,074 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)it's one thing to say polls now can change based on black swans or unknown future events. I agree with that.
She asserts the polls right now are "wrong." And I see no evidence to suggest that's remotely true.
They weren't wrong in 2016 either. It's just Trump won most of the close states.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)All the professionals and career public servants who just try to do a good job, no matter who is president-- and they've had to watch Trump install "leaders' who despise their agency's mission and/or are completely incompetent and unintelligent and/or are completely corrupt. They've had to try to work around pernicious orders and policies meant to ruin their hard work. They've had to watch their long-time leadership destroyed out of spite.
I hope Ms. Slotkin, who came out of the government and intelligence community, represents all those who are legally bound now from engaging in political activity. And dissing the party might not be a good idea.
Next time someone disses my party, I'm going to say, "Oh, yeah? You mean the party that DIDN'T NOMINATE TRUMP? THE SMART PARTY?"
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Make the case, Rep. Slotkin. Voters in her district, make sure she knows you have her back. There is nothing carved in stone that says because Trump carried this district by 7 points in 2016 that he'll be equally popular or more popular in 2020. Trump has an abysmal record to run on, and even allowing for his gish gallop of lies, a credible story can be told that it's time for Trump to go. You don't have to be mean or confrontational; just point out how badly Trump has done.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)it should? It seems to be flying under the radar when it should be one of the top stories in the headlines. I don't understand why I am not seeing more about this.
Granted, I work all day during the week and don't catch everything in the news cycles, but I just feel like this should be more of a bombshell than it is. Why isn't this getting more attention?
Celerity
(43,077 posts)I really have no conclusive answer for you, sorry.
Top Pentagon officials say Russian bounty program not corroborated
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-pentagon-officials-russian-bounty-program-corroborated/story?id=71694167
U.S. officials say intel on Russian bounties was less than conclusive.
That misses the big picture. But the debate over that narrow issue obscures a larger consensus. U.S. intel agencies have long assessed that Russia backs our enemies in Afghanistan.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-officials-say-intel-russian-bounties-was-less-conclusive-n1233199
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)like I should have been. A week ago this was such a huge deal and now it's barely registering. If it's true (and I am sorry, but I don't trust what Pentagon and "US officials" are saying), he should soon be going through another round of impeachment hearings.
Something about this whole thing seems very fishy to me and I think that people are covering for him because it wouldn't just be his ass on the line. A whole lot of other people would go down with him on this and they are trying to cover thier own asses and protect the party. He wasn't the only one who knew.
Beartracks
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Celerity
(43,077 posts)Right now Steve Schmidt is talking about it on MSNBC.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)to keep our nose above the surface... Sorry for the visual.
This is the turd's modus operandi. Fast and furious. (Actually his handlers. Herr turd can't keep track of anything.)
ALL of them MUST be dealt with.
Me.
(35,454 posts)is that in the literature put out by her office, she is not identified as a DEm.
https://slotkin.house.gov/
Celerity
(43,077 posts)Group of House lawmakers work together to advance bipartisan legislation
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin (MI-08) announced today that she has joined the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus. The groups membership is evenly split between Democrats and Republicans, who collaborate on practical, pragmatic solutions to improve peoples lives, providing an important vehicle in the House of Representatives to advance bipartisan legislation.
Throughout my 14 years working in national security, no one ever asked if I was a Democrat or Republican because we were focused on the mission, Slotkin said. Im so proud to be part of the Problem Solvers Caucus, a group of lawmakers with equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans who employ that same bipartisan mission-focus by working together on legislation that matters to peoples families and to their pocketbooks.
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Slotkin emphasizes Michigans role in uniting communities across party lines, reiterates pledge to represent each 8th district resident
https://slotkin.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-elissa-slotkin-welcomes-constituents-official-opening-rochester-hills
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Slotkin reiterated her pledge to work to represent every resident of the 8th district regardless of party or whether or not they voted for her: There are people here Ive never met who just came by, there are people who have come up to me and said, I didnt vote for you but Im willing to give you a chance. And let me say very, very clearly that it does not matter if you voted for me, it does not matter if youre a Democrat or Republican or Independent or anything in between, my job is to represent you, to listen to you, and to do everything I can to improve your lives. That is my job and I take that extremely seriously.
Places like Michigan, where we have neighbors and family members with different political views we are a rarer and rarer thing across the country, she added. People are separating out into political groups in a way that I think is unhealthy and antithetical to what our Founding Fathers wanted for us, which was to be a country where we could all provide our ideas and our ingenuity and our excitement and our hope and provide that to move us forward, instead of separating out into different Americas. So Michigan has a very specific role to play in reminding people what this country is about and how were going to act.
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she seems to dislike partisanship a lot
but I have no real answer for you, sorry
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Celerity
(43,077 posts)are the types who flipped over 40 red seats to Blue in 2018?
Curiouser and curiouser we go.
Slotkin is the exact type of moderate that is the probably only type who can win in these reddish/pinkish/purplish districts.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)this year to 16, give me a break. Also what are Democrats supposed to do? Trump and the Senate won't do anything about it claiming it is not corroborated...but she says nothing about the GOP...turn your attacks to the GOP ...not your own party.
Celerity
(43,077 posts)I think we read two different articles.
But by all means, demand a hyper-partisan campaign in a Republican district (and one where Trump won by 7) and see where that gets you.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Celerity
(43,077 posts)Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)with big numbers...she said it. That being said I understand she won in a red district...I just don't think she helps herself by calling out Democrats in the article you posted or saying Trump's vote is under counted in the twitter post above. Biden is winning Michigan. And we barely lost in 16. That being said, I support her.
Celerity
(43,077 posts)Not bevelling the polls are as wide in our favour as they are atm, and taking nothing for granted is NOT saying Biden will not win the state. It certainly is not saying that Biden is going to lose.
It is literally gaslighting to try and claim otherwise.
Also she is not calling out Democrats in the an attacking way, like some on the far left do.
By all means, roll on with a 'it's in the bag' attitude. Ask Clinton how that turned out.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)are done. Calling out Democrats is always an attack...Why not call out the Republicans for once. Now I am done with this. If I lived in Michigan, I would vote for her of course, but I don't like what she said end of story. Why is it OK with so many to blame the Democrats for stuff Republicans do...in this case Trump did it and the GOP Senate will do nothing. Calling out McConnell, how that I could get behind.
Celerity
(43,077 posts)she also ripped into Trump
done here
In Barbados they have a saying
hard ears dun hear, hard ears gunna feel
I take NOTHING for granted when it comes to the November election. Rump and the Rethugs are capable of trying and doing ANYTHING to try and rig/cheat their way to a win, and we have no idea what events are going to take place between now and the election. I refuse to adopt a pose that it is all but locked up.
GOTV!!!!!
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I take that to mean we should prepare to fight hard to win the state, because the race will be close there. She didnt say that Biden isnt in the lead there, just we should ignore that and fight hard.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)"DONT BELIEVE THE POLLS showing a Biden blowout, Elissa Slotkin warns fellow Dems🚨
She thinks the data is dead wrong.
They fundamentally undercounted the Trump vote in 2016, she says. I believe that same thing is happening right now.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)And she's in a very safe Dem district.
The dancing before you reach the end zone has got to stop. Time to work harder.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)with big numbers...she said it. That being said I support her. I think she wins by blaming Republicans for the bounty on our soldiers, Trump did it...and the GOP is doing nothing to stop it....what is the House supposed to do? That being said, I support her of course.
Link to tweet
Celerity
(43,077 posts)in editorialising from the author that is NOT her own words at all.
see
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213731352#post26
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Just once I would like to here some go after Republicans instead of Democrats....
Celerity
(43,077 posts)cheers
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Celerity
(43,077 posts)freshman who flipped Red seats to Blue in 2018 have to walk. Those districts are not DU. She is going to need a lot of ticket-splitting voters to win again. It is once again going to come down (whether you like it or not) to a significant degree to kitchen table issues, and also local ones.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Tell me why she doesn't identify herself as a Dem?
Celerity
(43,077 posts)if she is trying to hide being a Democrat, then joining the New Democrat Coalition is a pretty poor way to do it
https://newdemocratcoalition.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/new-democrat-coalition-chair-and-infrastructure-task-force-co-chairs-statement-on-house-passage-of-hr-2-
Biden endorsed her personally back in 2018 as well.
Joe Biden endorses Democrat Elissa Slotkin in 8th Congressional District
https://www.mlive.com/news/2018/04/joe_biden_endorses_democrat_el.html
here is another House Rep's website
Max Rose (just saw an interview with him so I went to his site)
it seems the same as hers in that it makes no blaring Party reference
https://maxrose.house.gov/
No clue why you are trying to drag her.
Maybe because she is a moderate and not a fan of the far left?
If we are not a big tent party, we are never going to maintain control of the House, and will have a hard time winning back the Senate.
Not The Squad: Rep. Elissa Slotkin and her Gang of 9 offer Democrats a path of moderation
https://www.jta.org/2019/08/05/politics/meet-the-anti-squad-rep-elissa-slotkin-offers-democrats-a-path-of-moderation
LANSING, Michigan (JTA) Tom Dalton could be the poster boy for Elissa Slotkins path to a second term and, she would argue, to Democrats keeping the U.S. House of Representatives. The 67-year-old Vietnam navy vet routinely votes Republican but says he would not hesitate to vote for Slotkin, a Democrat, if he had the opportunity.
Seeing whats happening today in the news, all you hear is negative this and negative that, I would love to know if theres a lot more of what I saw today, he said, after Slotkin and the Republican in the neighboring district, Tim Walberg, thanked him for his military service at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in this central Michigan town split between their districts. I want to thank you for being a Republican and a Democrat, Dalton said, emphasizing the you after the duo gifted him with a ceremonial pin.
In an interview two days later, Slotkin told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency that she sees bipartisanship as key to any success in Michigan, which flipped to Trump in 2016 by a tiny margin. She was one of two Democrats to pick up seats in the state last year, ousting the Republican incumbent in an upset. In my district, I have a very clear mandate to work across the aisle, she said. Its why I was sent to Washington. My father was a Republican and my mother was a Democrat, she said. In Michigan, we always fought about sports, not politics. The vitriol from Washington has been imported in our swing state and people cant stand it. You saw how happy people are when people work together.
Slotkin, a former CIA analyst, is one of nine veterans of the national security apparatus who are freshman Democrats in Congress and who call themselves the Gang of Nine. Three of them are Jewish: Slotkin, Elaine Luria of Virginia, a Navy veteran, and Max Rose of Staten Island, an Army veteran.
The Gang of Nine contrast sharply with another clique in the freshman Democratic class, The Squad of four progressive congresswomen who include Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. Although they wouldnt describe themselves this way, you might call them the Anti-Squad, freshmen whose security backgrounds and moderation form an alternative to the progressives who have become symbols of divides within the Democratic Party (and between the parties).
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ironically this next story has a pic of her and Max Rose, lolol
Average vulnerable House Democrat starts 2020 with $1.8 million
Eye-popping numbers and other takeaways from fourth quarter
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/02/02/dollar-dominance-average-vulnerable-house-democrat-starts-2020-with-1-8-million/
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1. House Democrats still dominating
House Democrats in competitive races continued their dominant fundraising, with incumbents raising an average of $679,000 almost $7,500 per day in the fourth quarter. Twenty-eight of the 39 Democrats in competitive races raised more than half a million.
On average, these Democrats had nearly $1.8 million in their campaign accounts at the end of the year, and 32 of the 39 had more than $1 million on hand.
Michigan Rep. Elissa Slotkin topped the list of vulnerable House Democrats, raising nearly $1.3 million. Slotkin is one of 30 Democrats in districts Trump won, and she took a high-profile role in the impeachment process. New York Rep. Max Rose was No. 2 with about $60,000 less than Slotkin, or $1.2 million for the quarter.
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'Duty to country': Democrat makes case to Trump supporters for impeachment
Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin announces her support for impeaching Trump in Michigan district that leans towards him
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/16/elissa-slotkin-democrat-backs-trump-impeachment
she obviously is doing something right
THose are sources other than herself.
https://slotkin.house.gov/
Me.
(35,454 posts)I am shocked at the entire situation but have to wonder if she is aware of the shenanigans that have been going on in Congress. It's not the Dems selling us out or a DEm President who is a traitor. I don't quite get Dems who turn on their own and leave the criminal Con without blame/recriminations. Can she point to one Con who has made a statement against what is happening aside from Romney? It's going on 3 weeks now. Grrrr.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)polls that show Biden winning convincing. If you are a Democrat, Trump is the enemy not fellow Democrats.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)Another blame the Democrats...Trump did it and the GOP supports him.
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Celerity
(43,077 posts)JI7
(89,239 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)we all get to see this play out again. The next time will likely be the last time, however.
Next time = game over.
tirebiter
(2,532 posts)Not that difficult
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)I don't want mealy-mouthed Dems in the next Congress.
James48
(4,426 posts)An amazing representative. I pray she wins.