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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:29 PM

Elissa Slotkin Is Sounding the Alarm. Will Democrats Listen?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/10/elissa-slotkin-congress-trump-351513

When one of Elissa Slotkin’s staffers passed along a New York Times report alleging that Russia had put bounties on the heads of American troops in Afghanistan—and that President Donald Trump either did not consume the relevant intelligence or did not act upon it—“my stomach,” the Michigan congresswoman says, “dropped to my knees.”

Slotkin spent the next 72 hours in an incredulous haze. A veteran CIA analyst before coming to Congress in the Democratic wave of 2018, she thought she had seen it all. She had served at length in the Middle East, lost friends and gained Top Secret clearance. She had personally briefed both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, in the White House situation room and in the Oval Office, on grave national security threats. And yet Slotkin’s imagination could not stretch far enough to accommodate either of the two scenarios now confronting her. How could something so sensitive not reach the president? Or, if it had, how could he have ignored it?

The congresswoman inhaled every bit of news coverage, watching carefully for conflicting details or any confirmation of the original Times story. She called former colleagues in the intel community in search of explanations. Finally, she took to social media, writing a series of uncharacteristically pointed tweets about Trump and Russian strongman Vladimir Putin. “Something has been off about that relationship since the beginning,” she wrote, “and Americans are quite literally paying in blood for his pandering to Putin.” The irony was not lost on Slotkin. Here she was, four months out from Election Day, one of the most endangered Democrats in the country, representing a district Trump carried by 7 points, spending her Sunday morning doing precisely what she had vowed to avoid: picking a Twitter fight with the president of the United States.

There will be consequences—of this, Slotkin is certain. She cannot hope to win reelection this fall without persuading a significant number of voters in Michigan’s 8th Congressional District to split their tickets—four more years for Trump, two more years for her—and every feud with the White House is equivalent to a few more straight-party ballots being punched. Whether Slotkin can have it both ways, speaking her mind about the president and winning over some of his supporters, may well determine not only her fate but the fate of Democrats in swing districts and battleground states across the country.

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Reply Elissa Slotkin Is Sounding the Alarm. Will Democrats Listen? (Original post)
Celerity Jul 10 OP
live love laugh Jul 10 #1
grantcart Jul 10 #30
live love laugh Jul 10 #46
qazplm135 Jul 10 #2
dawg day Jul 10 #3
gratuitous Jul 10 #4
smirkymonkey Jul 10 #5
Celerity Jul 10 #7
smirkymonkey Jul 10 #11
Beartracks Jul 10 #20
Celerity Jul 10 #21
not_the_one Jul 10 #29
Me. Jul 10 #6
Celerity Jul 10 #9
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #10
Celerity Jul 10 #12
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #14
Celerity Jul 10 #16
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #17
Celerity Jul 10 #19
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #24
Celerity Jul 10 #26
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #33
Celerity Jul 10 #40
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #42
Blue_true Jul 10 #28
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #34
Blue_true Jul 10 #39
RhodeIslandOne Jul 10 #43
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #25
Celerity Jul 10 #27
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #36
Celerity Jul 10 #41
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #15
Celerity Jul 10 #18
Me. Jul 10 #45
Celerity Jul 10 #47
Me. Jul 10 #48
Me. Jul 10 #13
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #37
Demsrule86 Jul 10 #8
catbyte Jul 10 #22
Celerity Jul 10 #23
JI7 Jul 10 #38
warmfeet Jul 10 #31
tirebiter Jul 10 #32
GeorgeGist Jul 10 #35
James48 Jul 10 #44

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:35 PM

1. Trump's changed the subject to schools. nt

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:58 PM

30. Now on Stone, returning Confederate flags to international table tennis tomorrow am



Getting the US out of the ILO @ noon

Granting special tax breaks to homes with model trains scheduled for 6 PM but could be replaced by medal of freedom award ceremony for Manafort.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:41 PM

46. Yup nt

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:40 PM

2. yeah I dont agree with her

it's one thing to say polls now can change based on black swans or unknown future events. I agree with that.

She asserts the polls right now are "wrong." And I see no evidence to suggest that's remotely true.

They weren't wrong in 2016 either. It's just Trump won most of the close states.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:41 PM

3. I think all over the government, hearts keep breaking

All the professionals and career public servants who just try to do a good job, no matter who is president-- and they've had to watch Trump install "leaders' who despise their agency's mission and/or are completely incompetent and unintelligent and/or are completely corrupt. They've had to try to work around pernicious orders and policies meant to ruin their hard work. They've had to watch their long-time leadership destroyed out of spite.

I hope Ms. Slotkin, who came out of the government and intelligence community, represents all those who are legally bound now from engaging in political activity. And dissing the party might not be a good idea.

Next time someone disses my party, I'm going to say, "Oh, yeah? You mean the party that DIDN'T NOMINATE TRUMP? THE SMART PARTY?"

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:44 PM

4. It's easy to pick a fight when you're totally in the right

Make the case, Rep. Slotkin. Voters in her district, make sure she knows you have her back. There is nothing carved in stone that says because Trump carried this district by 7 points in 2016 that he'll be equally popular or more popular in 2020. Trump has an abysmal record to run on, and even allowing for his gish gallop of lies, a credible story can be told that it's time for Trump to go. You don't have to be mean or confrontational; just point out how badly Trump has done.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:54 PM

5. Am I missing something or is this story (the Putin/Bounty story) not gaining the traction that

it should? It seems to be flying under the radar when it should be one of the top stories in the headlines. I don't understand why I am not seeing more about this.

Granted, I work all day during the week and don't catch everything in the news cycles, but I just feel like this should be more of a bombshell than it is. Why isn't this getting more attention?

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:07 PM

7. maybe because of things like this



I really have no conclusive answer for you, sorry.



Top Pentagon officials say Russian bounty program not corroborated

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-pentagon-officials-russian-bounty-program-corroborated/story?id=71694167



U.S. officials say intel on Russian bounties was less than conclusive.

That misses the big picture. But the debate over that narrow issue obscures a larger consensus. U.S. intel agencies have long assessed that Russia backs our enemies in Afghanistan.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-officials-say-intel-russian-bounties-was-less-conclusive-n1233199



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Response to Celerity (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:26 PM

11. No problem. I didn't really expect an answer, I just thought maybe I wasn't on top of things

like I should have been. A week ago this was such a huge deal and now it's barely registering. If it's true (and I am sorry, but I don't trust what Pentagon and "US officials" are saying), he should soon be going through another round of impeachment hearings.

Something about this whole thing seems very fishy to me and I think that people are covering for him because it wouldn't just be his ass on the line. A whole lot of other people would go down with him on this and they are trying to cover thier own asses and protect the party. He wasn't the only one who knew.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:10 PM

20. Since when does the media not SPECULATE 24/7 on potentially-explosive, uncorroberrated news?



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Response to Beartracks (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:14 PM

21. well, I tried to find the most recent articles on the bounties and those were what came up

Right now Steve Schmidt is talking about it on MSNBC.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:56 PM

29. That was three or four outrages ago. We are, literally, knee deep in shit and are just trying

to keep our nose above the surface... Sorry for the visual.

This is the turd's modus operandi. Fast and furious. (Actually his handlers. Herr turd can't keep track of anything.)

ALL of them MUST be dealt with.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:01 PM

6. What I Find Odd About Her

is that in the literature put out by her office, she is not identified as a DEm.

https://slotkin.house.gov/

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Response to Me. (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:21 PM

9. Rep. Elissa Slotkin Joins Bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus (No Labels is the parent organisation)

https://slotkin.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-elissa-slotkin-joins-bipartisan-problem-solvers-caucus

Group of House lawmakers work together to advance bipartisan legislation

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin (MI-08) announced today that she has joined the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus. The group’s membership is evenly split between Democrats and Republicans, who collaborate on practical, pragmatic solutions to improve people’s lives, providing an important vehicle in the House of Representatives to advance bipartisan legislation.

“Throughout my 14 years working in national security, no one ever asked if I was a Democrat or Republican –– because we were focused on the mission,” Slotkin said. “I’m so proud to be part of the Problem Solvers Caucus, a group of lawmakers with equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans who employ that same bipartisan mission-focus by working together on legislation that matters to people’s families and to their pocketbooks.”

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Slotkin emphasizes Michigan’s role in uniting communities across party lines, reiterates pledge to represent each 8th district resident

https://slotkin.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-elissa-slotkin-welcomes-constituents-official-opening-rochester-hills

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Slotkin reiterated her pledge to work to represent every resident of the 8th district –– regardless of party or whether or not they voted for her: “There are people here I’ve never met who just came by, there are people who have come up to me and said, ‘I didn’t vote for you but I’m willing to give you a chance.’ And let me say very, very clearly that it does not matter if you voted for me, it does not matter if you’re a Democrat or Republican or Independent or anything in between, my job is to represent you, to listen to you, and to do everything I can to improve your lives. That is my job and I take that extremely seriously.

“Places like Michigan, where we have neighbors and family members with different political views –– we are a rarer and rarer thing across the country,” she added. “People are separating out into political groups in a way that I think is unhealthy and antithetical to what our Founding Fathers wanted for us, which was to be a country where we could all provide our ideas and our ingenuity and our excitement and our hope and provide that to move us forward, instead of separating out into different Americas. So Michigan has a very specific role to play in reminding people what this country is about and how we’re going to act.”

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she seems to dislike partisanship a lot

but I have no real answer for you, sorry

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Response to Me. (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:21 PM

10. No surprise there...the blame the Democrats was a dead giveaway.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:28 PM

12. So now you are even eating you own front-line, vulnerable centrist Democrats who are literally

are the types who flipped over 40 red seats to Blue in 2018?

Curiouser and curiouser we go.

Slotkin is the exact type of moderate that is the probably only type who can win in these reddish/pinkish/purplish districts.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:34 PM

14. I will call out anyone who posts nonsense about our nominee...and she compares

this year to 16, give me a break. Also what are Democrats supposed to do? Trump and the Senate won't do anything about it claiming it is not corroborated...but she says nothing about the GOP...turn your attacks to the GOP ...not your own party.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:01 PM

16. did you even read the article? she is not attacking Democrats and said nothing about Biden

I think we read two different articles.

But by all means, demand a hyper-partisan campaign in a Republican district (and one where Trump won by 7) and see where that gets you.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:05 PM

17. She has said that Biden is not winning Michigan.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:09 PM

19. she never said that at all, you are making it up

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Response to Celerity (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:41 PM

24. She said we should not believe the polls...Polls that show Biden winning

with big numbers...she said it. That being said I understand she won in a red district...I just don't think she helps herself by calling out Democrats in the article you posted or saying Trump's vote is under counted in the twitter post above. Biden is winning Michigan. And we barely lost in 16. That being said, I support her.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:49 PM

26. that is NOT what you claimed she said, you simply made it up

Not bevelling the polls are as wide in our favour as they are atm, and taking nothing for granted is NOT saying Biden will not win the state. It certainly is not saying that Biden is going to lose.

It is literally gaslighting to try and claim otherwise.

Also she is not calling out Democrats in the an attacking way, like some on the far left do.

By all means, roll on with a 'it's in the bag' attitude. Ask Clinton how that turned out.


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Response to Celerity (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:10 PM

33. I posted it...she said it...you can parse words if you like...as far as I am concerned we

are done. Calling out Democrats is always an attack...Why not call out the Republicans for once. Now I am done with this. If I lived in Michigan, I would vote for her of course, but I don't like what she said end of story. Why is it OK with so many to blame the Democrats for stuff Republicans do...in this case Trump did it and the GOP Senate will do nothing. Calling out McConnell, how that I could get behind.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:23 PM

40. no she did not say it, and she is not attacking Democrats, this is the stuff of fantasy

she also ripped into Trump

Finally, she took to social media, writing a series of uncharacteristically pointed tweets about Trump and Russian strongman Vladimir Putin. “Something has been off about that relationship since the beginning,” she wrote, “and Americans are quite literally paying in blood for his pandering to Putin.”


done here

In Barbados they have a saying

hard ears dun hear, hard ears gunna feel

I take NOTHING for granted when it comes to the November election. Rump and the Rethugs are capable of trying and doing ANYTHING to try and rig/cheat their way to a win, and we have no idea what events are going to take place between now and the election. I refuse to adopt a pose that it is all but locked up.

GOTV!!!!!





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Response to Celerity (Reply #40)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:25 PM

42. Good to know...that is how you win.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:56 PM

28. She said don't believe the polls showing winning by big numbers.

I take that to mean we should prepare to fight hard to win the state, because the race will be close there. She didn’t say that Biden isn’t in the lead there, just we should ignore that and fight hard.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:12 PM

34. I posted what she said below, I don't agree.

"DON’T BELIEVE THE POLLS showing a Biden blowout, Elissa Slotkin warns fellow Dems🚨

She thinks the data is dead wrong.

“They fundamentally undercounted the Trump vote” in 2016, she says. “I believe that same thing is happening right now.”

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #34)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:21 PM

39. Again, she didn't say that she doesn't believe that Biden has some type of lead. nt

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #34)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:25 PM

43. Debbie Dingell has said the same thing.

And she's in a very safe Dem district.

The dancing before you reach the end zone has got to stop. Time to work harder.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:43 PM

25. She said we should not believe the polls...Polls that show Biden winning

with big numbers...she said it. That being said I support her. I think she wins by blaming Republicans for the bounty on our soldiers, Trump did it...and the GOP is doing nothing to stop it....what is the House supposed to do? That being said, I support her of course.


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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:53 PM

27. same thing as your previous posts, this is not what you claimed she said, and now you are adding

in editorialising from the author that is NOT her own words at all.

see

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213731352#post26

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Response to Celerity (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:13 PM

36. These are her own words...quotes. But feel free to continue without me.

Just once I would like to here some go after Republicans instead of Democrats....

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:24 PM

41. lol, she is NOT going after Democrats. That is a false construct made up out of whole cloth.

cheers

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Response to Celerity (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:35 PM

15. She ran as a Democrat and FYI Rep Slotkinis, you are not in the CIA anymore.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:05 PM

18. she is obviously running as a Democrat. I truly think you have no idea just how fine a line certain

freshman who flipped Red seats to Blue in 2018 have to walk. Those districts are not DU. She is going to need a lot of ticket-splitting voters to win again. It is once again going to come down (whether you like it or not) to a significant degree to kitchen table issues, and also local ones.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:27 PM

45. Complete Nonsense, Don't Distract

Tell me why she doesn't identify herself as a Dem?

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Response to Me. (Reply #45)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:22 PM

47. tell me why you think she isn't

if she is trying to hide being a Democrat, then joining the New Democrat Coalition is a pretty poor way to do it

https://newdemocratcoalition.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/new-democrat-coalition-chair-and-infrastructure-task-force-co-chairs-statement-on-house-passage-of-hr-2-





Biden endorsed her personally back in 2018 as well.

Joe Biden endorses Democrat Elissa Slotkin in 8th Congressional District

https://www.mlive.com/news/2018/04/joe_biden_endorses_democrat_el.html


here is another House Rep's website

Max Rose (just saw an interview with him so I went to his site)

it seems the same as hers in that it makes no blaring Party reference

https://maxrose.house.gov/


No clue why you are trying to drag her.

Maybe because she is a moderate and not a fan of the far left?

If we are not a big tent party, we are never going to maintain control of the House, and will have a hard time winning back the Senate.


Not The Squad: Rep. Elissa Slotkin and her ‘Gang of 9’ offer Democrats a path of moderation

https://www.jta.org/2019/08/05/politics/meet-the-anti-squad-rep-elissa-slotkin-offers-democrats-a-path-of-moderation

LANSING, Michigan (JTA) — Tom Dalton could be the poster boy for Elissa Slotkin’s path to a second term and, she would argue, to Democrats keeping the U.S. House of Representatives. The 67-year-old Vietnam navy vet routinely votes Republican — but says he would not hesitate to vote for Slotkin, a Democrat, if he had the opportunity.

“Seeing what’s happening today in the news, all you hear is negative this and negative that, I would love to know if there’s a lot more of what I saw today,” he said, after Slotkin and the Republican in the neighboring district, Tim Walberg, thanked him for his military service at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in this central Michigan town split between their districts. “I want to thank you for being a Republican and a Democrat,” Dalton said, emphasizing the “you” after the duo gifted him with a ceremonial pin.

In an interview two days later, Slotkin told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency that she sees bipartisanship as key to any success in Michigan, which flipped to Trump in 2016 by a tiny margin. She was one of two Democrats to pick up seats in the state last year, ousting the Republican incumbent in an upset. “In my district, I have a very clear mandate to work across the aisle,” she said. “It’s why I was sent to Washington.” “My father was a Republican and my mother was a Democrat,” she said. “In Michigan, we always fought about sports, not politics. The vitriol from Washington has been imported in our swing state and people can’t stand it. You saw how happy people are when people work together.”

Slotkin, a former CIA analyst, is one of nine veterans of the national security apparatus who are freshman Democrats in Congress and who call themselves the “Gang of Nine.” Three of them are Jewish: Slotkin, Elaine Luria of Virginia, a Navy veteran, and Max Rose of Staten Island, an Army veteran.

The “Gang of Nine” contrast sharply with another clique in the freshman Democratic class, “The Squad” of four progressive congresswomen who include Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. Although they wouldn’t describe themselves this way, you might call them the “Anti-Squad,” freshmen whose security backgrounds and moderation form an alternative to the progressives who have become symbols of divides within the Democratic Party (and between the parties).

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ironically this next story has a pic of her and Max Rose, lolol


Average vulnerable House Democrat starts 2020 with $1.8 million

Eye-popping numbers and other takeaways from fourth quarter

https://www.rollcall.com/2020/02/02/dollar-dominance-average-vulnerable-house-democrat-starts-2020-with-1-8-million/



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1. House Democrats still dominating

House Democrats in competitive races continued their dominant fundraising, with incumbents raising an average of $679,000 — almost $7,500 per day — in the fourth quarter. Twenty-eight of the 39 Democrats in competitive races raised more than half a million.

On average, these Democrats had nearly $1.8 million in their campaign accounts at the end of the year, and 32 of the 39 had more than $1 million on hand.

Michigan Rep. Elissa Slotkin topped the list of vulnerable House Democrats, raising nearly $1.3 million. Slotkin is one of 30 Democrats in districts Trump won, and she took a high-profile role in the impeachment process. New York Rep. Max Rose was No. 2 with about $60,000 less than Slotkin, or $1.2 million for the quarter.

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'Duty to country': Democrat makes case to Trump supporters for impeachment

Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin announces her support for impeaching Trump in Michigan district that leans towards him

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/16/elissa-slotkin-democrat-backs-trump-impeachment




she obviously is doing something right

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Response to Celerity (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:30 PM

48. Nice Try

THose are sources other than herself.


https://slotkin.house.gov/

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:28 PM

13. It's Why I Double-Checked Her

I am shocked at the entire situation but have to wonder if she is aware of the shenanigans that have been going on in Congress. It's not the Dems selling us out or a DEm President who is a traitor. I don't quite get Dems who turn on their own and leave the criminal Con without blame/recriminations. Can she point to one Con who has made a statement against what is happening aside from Romney? It's going on 3 weeks now. Grrrr.

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Response to Me. (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:15 PM

37. That is exactly my point. She blames Democrats and announces that we should not believe the

polls that show Biden winning convincing. If you are a Democrat, Trump is the enemy not fellow Democrats.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:20 PM

8. We don't hold the Senate...what pray tell are we supposed to do?

Another blame the Democrats...Trump did it and the GOP supports him.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:34 PM

23. I have no idea what you are calling 'a load'

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Response to catbyte (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:17 PM

38. by that thing are you talking about Trump ? becsuse trump "won" in 2016 and she won in 2018

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:58 PM

31. If tRump is not held accountable for his actions

we all get to see this play out again. The next time will likely be the last time, however.

Next time = game over.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:00 PM

32. Biden was, she wins

Not that difficult

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:13 PM

35. Rock the boat.

I don't want mealy-mouthed Dems in the next Congress.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:26 PM

44. My Congresswoman.

An amazing representative. I pray she wins.

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