@neal_katyal just said the NY grand jury could indict Trump before the election

[EleanorR]

Anybody watching him on MSNBC? Thoughts?

Link to tweet

[StarfishSaver]

1. Yes

I saw that.

I love that he pushed back hard on all of the "This is a partial victory for Trump" analyses. He made very clear that Trump lost bigly in every respect.

[Mike 03]

7. +1

If we were smart, we'd totally use talking points like this instead of dismissing them, regardless of their unlikeliness.

[lagomorph777]

12. +2 We need to look at the full half of the glass!

[LastDemocratInSC]

31. The half-full vs. half-empty glass:

We know what optimists and pessimists say. An engineer says this: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

[lagomorph777]

32. As an engineer I would agree but I always leave 50% margin.

So I'd say the glass is perfect and the fullness is nominal.

[soothsayer]

2. Not while he's a sitting president I thought

[SoonerPride]

10. That's an informal internal DOJ rule for Feds.

Has no bearing on states

[soothsayer]

13. Really. Well... this could get good.

[lagomorph777]

17. ...and SHOULD have no bearing on the Feds.

Biden/Pelosi/Schumer need to put that high on the list of necessary repairs.

[leftieNanner]

11. I'm not sure

That's a Federal DOJ policy, not a state one. Maybe Vance can indict him.

Wouldn't that be ..... interesting.....

[True Blue American]

3. Neal is an expert

On the Law. I trust his word.

[Zoonart]

21. He WROTE the prevailing opinion upon which most

of this argument rests. I think he knows what he's talking about.

[True Blue American]

28. 100%

[ScratchCat]

4. Of course they can

These are State charges. Nothing prevents it. It just puts the GOP in the position of running a candidate that is under indictment or going with an alternative.

[empedocles]

5. YEEAAAAAAA!

[Claustrum]

6. Even if Trump is indicted, it would be sealed until way after the election

The norm is always preserved for republicans. It's only ok to break them if it's a democrat (Hillary's email).

[Sanity Claws]

14. Cyrus Vance is in charge of it and I see no reason why he would do that.

He is not beholden to any DOJ protocols.

[obamanut2012]

23. 100% wrong

No basis in fact for what you state.

[malaise]

8. Ari sure got it wrong

I agree with Katyal

[cbdo2007]

9. It is only a victory for Trump in one very specific sense - the election.

It is terrible for Trump in every other way, but there is no way this is going to happen before the election. Even if the NY grand jury find Trump did anything illegal it will be appealed and not come out til after the election.

Still a conviction by the SDNY would look really really bad before the election and their decision COULD highlight some of the findings in the taxes...but that would be very quick work they would need to do.

[leftieNanner]

15. Legal question

Can you appeal an indictment?

[cbdo2007]

22. I have no idea - anyone else know???

I do know that if he were indicted before the election that would be terrible to his reelection strategy. Not with his rabid base obviously but with those who are on the edge (of which I would guess is about 10-20% of his support)

But also knowing Trump...he knows ALL the delay tactics possibly known to man. He's built his entire business empire on delaying lawsuits so if there is a way he will find it.

[Yeehah]

25. Yes, it's called a trial. n/t

[leftieNanner]

27. That's what I thought.

[Mike 03]

16. But it's swinging back and forth over his neck like a pendulum.

I don't think it helps him on the election.

The mere fact that he's so enraged in itself achieves so much, because he makes mistakes when he's this angry.

[jaysunb]

18. Maybe Vance has a rapid response already in place. Nt

[unblock]

19. This could certainly happen, especially if donnie can't block Deutsche bank handing records over

[Thekaspervote]

20. Make no mistake, today's rulings were a win for us ...THE DOTARD LOST

[highplainsdem]

24. Video of Katyal saying that, in a tweet he just posted:

Link to tweet

[Nevilledog]

26. Thank you so much for posting the video.

[moonscape]

29. Thank you! n/t

[lame54]

30. Not a chance on this planet or any other

[madinmaryland]

33. Indict AND freeze all of his assets (including his family's)!