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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 07:47 AM Jul 2020

Democrats Are Extraordinarily United Behind Biden

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/08/democrats-are-extraordinarily-united-behind-biden/

Democrats Are Extraordinarily United Behind Biden
July 8, 2020 at 7:36 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Nate Cohn: “Over all, voters in the battleground states who said Bernie Sanders was their top choice for president said they backed Mr. Biden over President Trump, 87% to 4%. If there was a Bernie-or-Bust movement, it has either faded with the conclusion of the Democratic race, or it never existed in serious numbers in the battleground states.”

“Mr. Biden commands even more significant support from voters who supported Elizabeth Warren in the primary. The Democrats who said she was their top choice to be the Democratic nominee backed Mr. Biden over Mr. Trump by a staggering margin of 96% to 0% — even wider than Mr. Biden’s 96-1 lead among those who said he was their top choice in the Democratic primary.”
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Democrats Are Extraordinarily United Behind Biden (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2020 OP
A good part of that must be being united against Trump. TreasonousBastard Jul 2020 #1
Normally, running against your opponent doesn't work Clash City Rocker Jul 2020 #2
Astonishing SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #15
What does that mean, SpaceNeedle? Hekate Jul 2020 #31
I don't remember now SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #40
It worked for Trump IronLionZion Jul 2020 #22
Yep. Nobody in my house really likes Biden but we hate Trump, so we will all Luciferous Jul 2020 #28
we are united against trump rampartc Jul 2020 #3
Oh Yeah.. what are you going to be "..Protesting Biden.." Cha Jul 2020 #4
To the second part of your post: no. calimary Jul 2020 #8
At least enjoy a sip of champagne Wednesdays Jul 2020 #11
Hold it a minute. jaxexpat Jul 2020 #20
So you won't even let the guy have a moment to settle in, eh? Just contribute to disaffection ... Hekate Jul 2020 #32
"Purity now. Purity forever."...Or something like that. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #34
This, agree, thanks!! nt babylonsister Jul 2020 #38
I have no idea who you think "we" is. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #35
The Republican run Lincoln Project hasn't said anything so ridiculous Renew Deal Jul 2020 #48
Biden is generating a positive agenda based on decades of experience bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #5
i heard on Morning Joe a commentator said Biden is not an exciting candidate onetexan Jul 2020 #14
It's not about showbiz, here... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #23
Said this during the primaries peggysue2 Jul 2020 #24
Great point XanaDUer2 Jul 2020 #46
4%??? Gamecock Lefty Jul 2020 #6
More confusing Chellee Jul 2020 #9
Someone trolling the pollster SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #16
Strategic voting in Democratic primaries ibegurpard Jul 2020 #19
I love how voters in open primary states try to impact the vote that way yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #26
You don't have to pass any test to register to vote, or show an understanding of what... Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #21
If you are in a closed primary state, you have to vote in yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #27
I have a young relative who told me in 2016 that he would have voted for Bernie spooky3 Jul 2020 #37
Well, some folks just like a gruff old guy who yells a lot. raging moderate Jul 2020 #43
I backed with Liz, but I'm Ridin' with Biden! NT Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #7
I was an Inslee supporter. Fully with Biden as soon as Inslee dropped out. calimary Jul 2020 #10
I was for Kamala wryter2000 Jul 2020 #49
The Traitor MUST Be Evicted. dalton99a Jul 2020 #12
Recd CatLady78 Jul 2020 #13
The never-Bidens are real ibegurpard Jul 2020 #17
Yeah, this year, I don't think there are that many of them. backscatter712 Jul 2020 #47
That type of unity is usually reserved for Repubs only... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #18
I initially supported Amy Klobuchar. MarianJack Jul 2020 #25
It would be very interesting to have a conversation Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #29
We had a deep pool of committed Democratic and progressive candidates to choose from. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #30
I am a bit giddy (joyfully elated), I must admit. warmfeet Jul 2020 #33
Well, yeah. PatrickforO Jul 2020 #36
I backed Sanders again and am sad he won't have another chance mvd Jul 2020 #39
I have come across a couple of people who say that since Bernie lost Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2020 #41
I hope everbody sticks withthe understanding that Kanye and Trump are basically the same person at jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #42
It is either Trump or Biden? Think about that for awhile? Stuart G Jul 2020 #44
Americans hate trump rockfordfile Jul 2020 #45

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
2. Normally, running against your opponent doesn't work
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:24 AM
Jul 2020

You have to provide something positive to run for. You have to inspire people. But Trump is so despised, by so many people, that it’s working this time.

Biden does inspire me, but mainly because he’s sane and a grown-up, and he can fix some of the damage Trump has inflicted. So his inspirational qualities are partially a reflection of how much I hate Trump. I think that’s true for many others.

 

SpaceNeedle

(191 posts)
40. I don't remember now
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

I may have been wanting to reply to a different post but had a navigation malfunction.

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
22. It worked for Trump
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

he relentlessly attacked his opponents without providing much policy of his own. Just a lot of MAGA type fear and hate that appeals to the worst in certain people

Cha

(297,154 posts)
4. Oh Yeah.. what are you going to be "..Protesting Biden.."
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:38 AM
Jul 2020

for If he Gets inaugurated?

And, who's this "we".. cause anybody I know sure as hell won't be.. we will be supporting him to Rebuild America and the relations with all our Allies that trump destroyed.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
8. To the second part of your post: no.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

But the first part, DEFINITELY yes. DEFINITELY united against trump.

Vigorously and Adamantly against trump.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
20. Hold it a minute.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jul 2020

Even Clinton had a couple of weeks past inauguration before the media proclaimed his a failed presidency.

But there WILL be some major hollerin' if there aren't more than a few from Trump's cadre indicted AND found guilty AND imprisoned by June 2021. It's clean house time in America. NO MORE: Trumps, DeVos types, Barr types, McConnell types, Gym types, Pompeo types, Limbaugh and his wannabes or public lying on major news networks. Demand truth in broadcasting! The foolishness has got to be over. If there is oppression in the country, let it be oppression of bigots, racists, greed/fear mongers, TV ministers and pirate capitalists. Eliminate consequence free lying by politicians (that's a lot easier when the media is constrained by fairness and honesty in broadcasting). AND provide national guidelines for federal elections, state congressional district boundaries and eliminate the electoral college. When anyone tries to justify the EC, OUT them for the liars/fools/traitors to the people they are.

Hekate

(90,648 posts)
32. So you won't even let the guy have a moment to settle in, eh? Just contribute to disaffection ...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jul 2020

...and malaise? Will you take a page from Obama’s election and start the fault-finding from the moment he chooses a minister or priest (he is Catholic, after all) to participate in the swearing-in.

So much to look forward to.

Maybe, just for a shocking change, we Dems could get behind the guy who is going to be getting a shitload of grief from the GOP, MAGAts, Trump, and the Russian assets.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
35. I have no idea who you think "we" is.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jul 2020

I’m going to give the guy a chance to right the ship. Give it a whirl.

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
5. Biden is generating a positive agenda based on decades of experience
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:44 AM
Jul 2020

amidst a referendum on Trump. Republicans are so immersed in Trumpism they can't even detect any problems with their candidate at all. Voters are making up their minds, are turned off by Trump. The Biden campaign will ramp up and may create a not insignificant surge that results in overperformance in some state races.

WE. ARE. LOOKIN. GOOD.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
14. i heard on Morning Joe a commentator said Biden is not an exciting candidate
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jul 2020

screw the excitement factor. We don't need someone with alot of hot air. We need a real leader. It excites me as heck that come November Godwilling we will have a President Biden so that the majority of Americans can sleep soundly knowing we are in good hands. It excites me to know the grave ills committed by this horrible administration will be righted and the crooks prosecuted. It excites me Biden will be our leader to restore relations with our ally countries abroad & the US back to normalcy domestically, to its status as World Leader in Democracy, Human Rights, and as the greatest nation with the greatest economy on earth.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
23. It's not about showbiz, here...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jul 2020

We have our country to save all while trying to sustain our species and many others. Joe Biden is currently developing policy proposals, reassembling a government that has been hacked to pieces and doing so in a manner that is based on inclusion of all. And that inclusion part is crucial for everyone because by the time we figure out how to exist with a long term pandemic there will be far fewer of us I fear and all people who do manage to make it will certainly be a mix of peoples who will need to collaborate to survive.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
24. Said this during the primaries
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

If you want excitement, go to an amusement park. Post-Trump, voters should be convinced that presidential elections are not and should never be based on an entertainment quotient. The position of an executive worth his/her salt is hard work and demands knowledge, commitment and heart in order to get stuff done to promote and guide the welfare of the American public. Trump has failed on all fronts, most spectacularly in protecting the security of the country and our basic principles and institutions. Rule of law, anyone?

Enough of the adolescent braying for a damn excitement factor!

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
6. 4%???
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jul 2020

I'd have a hard time believing 4% of those supporting Sanders would actually vote for Trump. No way! I can see them maybe supporting a 3rd party candidate but going from Sanders to Trump? Who would actually do that???

Chellee

(2,095 posts)
9. More confusing
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jul 2020

are the 1% of people that backed Biden in the primary but are choosing Trump over Biden in the general. How does that work?

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
19. Strategic voting in Democratic primaries
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jul 2020

For who they thought would be the easier opponent to beat in the general?
Looking like their strategic choice was mistaken if so.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
26. I love how voters in open primary states try to impact the vote that way
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

It NEVER works and it makes the Democrats who do it hard to find because they aren't voting in the Democratic primaries, and the Republicans get mad if we call them; they are on our lists because they voted in our primaries

It can only work in a small election with a united front against a bad candidate. Next county over, there was a school board election with a Tea Party Republican and a 'normal person' Republican. The Republican party leadership wanted the moderate to win and the Democrats had no one in the primary, so the Democrats voted in the Republican primary to boost the good guy. Small electorate, focused attack equaled a good outcome. The good guy won

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
21. You don't have to pass any test to register to vote, or show an understanding of what...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020

...the party you register with actually stands for in order to vote in that party's primary. 4% is just statistical noise, literally fringe data. Bernie Sanders is a high profile figure who a few simply equate with screw the establishment, and out of that group a subset of them think that Trump is all about screwing the establishment also. Significantly more people think that the moon landings were faked than fit into this grouping.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
27. If you are in a closed primary state, you have to vote in
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jul 2020

your own party's primary. Open primary states are a free for all on primary day. No such thing as a 'registered Democrat' or 'registered Republican' in Texas.

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
37. I have a young relative who told me in 2016 that he would have voted for Bernie
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jul 2020

had he been the nominee, but that he was going to vote for Trump over Clinton.

It makes no sense logically, but research has provided several explanations for some Trump votes: sexism, racism, etc.

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
43. Well, some folks just like a gruff old guy who yells a lot.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jul 2020

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have that in common, and that is all these folks in the 4% are looking for. That, and both are old white men.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
17. The never-Bidens are real
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jul 2020

I've encountered several myself. However, their numbers and influence levels are substantially less than those who bring them up with intention to cause division might suggest. Certainly less so than in 2016 in my opinion.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
47. Yeah, this year, I don't think there are that many of them.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe a few leftists on the radical side of the spectrum, but I'm not seeing never-Bideners really gaining a foothold this year. Hell, I supported Bernie in the primaries, but Biden's a good guy - if Bernie himself is working with him, that's all good with me.

Trump must be removed by any means necessary.

We've had almost four years to acquire a burning hatred for Trump - I think that's going to win out.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
18. That type of unity is usually reserved for Repubs only...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jul 2020

ABT (anybody but Trump) rules!

Really, though, I still can't fathom supporting Trump after all that has happened. What kind of sado/masochist does one have to be?

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
25. I initially supported Amy Klobuchar.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jul 2020

As soon as she suspended her campaign and endorsed VP Biden I did, too.

#notmypresident

RESIST

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
29. It would be very interesting to have a conversation
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jul 2020

with any of that 4% who say Bernie was their top pick, but they're now voting for Trump. They must be some of the most uninformed people on the planet.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. We had a deep pool of committed Democratic and progressive candidates to choose from.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jul 2020

And despite the differences, the common denominators between them were much greater. So I'm not too surprised to see the party coalesce behind Vice President Biden.

And, as the flaring coals of the primaries have begun cooling down, I honestly do think a lot of people who dismissed Biden previously are now looking at him in contrast to Idiot trump and realizing that the stakes are far too high to avoid voting in the general as some kind of statement of conviction as was done and proudly advertised four years ago.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. I am a bit giddy (joyfully elated), I must admit.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jul 2020

The prospect of voting for Joe Biden makes me extremely happy.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
39. I backed Sanders again and am sad he won't have another chance
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jul 2020

But I am behind Biden. He needs to win. And one of our younger progressives may become President in the not so distant future.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
41. I have come across a couple of people who say that since Bernie lost
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jul 2020

They won't vote for Biden. I told them that then they are supporting Trump.

jorgevlorgan

(8,291 posts)
42. I hope everbody sticks withthe understanding that Kanye and Trump are basically the same person at
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jul 2020

this point.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
44. It is either Trump or Biden? Think about that for awhile?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jul 2020

Trump has had 3.5 years to prove he is a stupid fool, and he has proved it completely.

Trump will lose, and lose big.

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