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Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:45 AM

Trump wants America to die.

Otherwise, we’d have a national strategy to fight the plague.

A strategy would include nationwide plans for:

1. Stopping the spread of the disease.
2. Treating the afflicted.
3. Protecting the healthy.
4. Protecting the healthcare infrastructure (hospitals, clinics, transportation, equipment).
5. Protecting healthcare professionals (physicians, nurses, specialists, technicians, staff).
6. Preserving the economy (communities, people, workers, employers, companies, banks, etc.).
7. Recovery and reopening businesses, schools, arts, sports, culture and the rest of national life.

What else would a National strategy need to do to defeat Covid-19?

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Reply Trump wants America to die. (Original post)
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 OP
RKP5637 Jul 3 #1
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #3
thucythucy Jul 3 #2
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #7
jalan48 Jul 3 #4
RKP5637 Jul 3 #10
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #19
jalan48 Jul 3 #21
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #22
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 3 #23
RKP5637 Jul 3 #5
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #24
RKP5637 Jul 3 #26
gratuitous Jul 3 #6
2naSalit Jul 3 #14
Kid Berwyn Jul 3 #25
GeorgeGist Jul 3 #8
Kid Berwyn Jul 4 #27
RockRaven Jul 3 #9
SammyWinstonJack Jul 3 #12
2naSalit Jul 3 #15
Newest Reality Jul 3 #11
2naSalit Jul 3 #16
StarryNite Jul 3 #13
JHB Jul 3 #17
alittlelark Jul 3 #18
Andy823 Jul 3 #20

Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

1. He and Moscow Mitch are probably under direct orders from Putin on how to handle this plague. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

3. Based on reality, yes.

Trump couldn’t do more harm if he wanted to. Nor Putin.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

2. I would add as number 8:

protecting those most at risk: elders, people with disabilities, people with pre-existing conditions.

This would NOT include trying to eliminate ObamaCare.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:52 AM

7. That might be #3.

Eliminating Obamacare right now is a tell, if not a declaration of war upon the American people.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

4. I've been wondering what he, and the Republicans really want. I think chaos is their goal. If people

happen to die it's considered collateral damage. Milton Friedman and other disaster capitalism adherents know the best time to make major changes to a society is when the citizens are in a state of chaotic panic. When the chaos subsides they wake up to a new order.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

10. Yes, that is very possibly the agenda. A side benefit to them would also be killing off old people,

those with health problems and the poor plus immigrants thus lowering in the eyes of the GOP the cost of doing business. The GOP is today pretty much a collection of sadists. The don't give a damn about the country or the people, and their bottom line is $$$$$'s for them.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:25 PM

19. Disaster for Democracy

Is good for the prepared capitalist.

Defining our current situation, Naomi Klein gives us hope...

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:35 PM

21. +1 She makes more sense than 99% of the pundits today. Instead of just reporting the panic (it's

great for ratings!) she tells us why the panic is happening and what's behind it.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:42 PM

22. Absolutely.

Last edited Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Naomi Klein is a real journalist: she tells the truth.

The only business mentioned by name in the Constitution is the free press, in the First Amendment. The Founders knew the truth is essential for democracy to survive and for the republic to thrive.

Royalty, dictators and authoritarians don’t appreciate the People knowing what’s going on, let alone well-educated. Reagan and his ilk want to defund education and undermine the liberal press. Few if any can operate a crime syndicate when the mopes are forewarned.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:37 PM

23. I dispise republicans

And every single asshole who supports and believes thier free market neo liberal shit.

To me the neo liberal capitalist narcissists must be barred from power forever. Make it impossible for them to be elected to anything.

Most people are not neoliberal asshats.

Defang declaw and neuter all the predatory capitalists forever.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:51 AM

5. At the minimal, absolute minimal, could be a national strategy on masks. We need national

standard guidelines on masks. Make them mandatory across the country ... and enact the ability to manufacture quality and affordable masks ... and provide them to the nation for free. That alone would be a huge step with major results.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:45 PM

24. Wearing masks universally might knock off 4/5 cases. 80%.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

By Nina Bai
UCSF, June 26, 2020

Excerpt...

How many people need to wear masks to reduce community transmission?

“What you want is 100 percent of people to wear masks, but you’ll settle for 80 percent,” said Rutherford. In one simulation, researchers predicted that 80 percent of the population wearing masks would do more to reduce COVID-19 spread than a strict lockdown.

The latest forecast from the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation suggests that 33,000 deaths could be avoided by October 1 if 95 percent of people wore masks in public.

Even if you live in a community where few people wear masks, you would still reduce your own chances of catching the virus by wearing one, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford.

Source: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:43 PM

26. K&R!!! And it makes logical sense! n/t

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:52 AM

6. "If I can't have you, nobody can!"

Those who have been in abusive relationships will spot it a mile away.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:08 PM

14. +1

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:41 PM

25. The Divine Right of Morons

Thinking they can claim ownership of another human being, they feel outrage at the loss of control.

The murder-suicides often make the news. After hearing their story, I find myself wondering why didn’t they just take their own life?

The insane abusers must believe ownership exists past the grave.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:54 AM

8. Collecting bounties is hard work.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 09:57 AM

27. We are all Puerto Ricans now.

“Puerto Rico was an incredible, unsung success.”



Amazing how quickly we move on. For instance, Putin offering bounties on American service members.

Why is Trump still in office?



Traitors should not be anywhere near the Oval Office.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:55 AM

9. Yup. We don't love him enough, so we deserve to be punished.

Malignant narcissism is a helluva drug.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:02 PM

12. That's it exactly. We should be thanking him, his words.

Revenge is his whole life, getting even. Its what he does best.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:09 PM

15. That is exactly it and he said so at the very same time

he admitted that Biden would be president.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

11. That sentiment is fully endorsed by:

"How easy can it get?"

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:11 PM

16. That picture makes me think

That some kind of sex shit goes on between those two and guess who's always "on top".

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:02 PM

13. He does want us to die.

At least he wants the ones of us who are collecting Social Security to die. The rethugs have been trying to do away with SS since the beginning of it. If they can't get rid of it they will get rid of as many of us who are on it as they can. Since Covid-19 is the most dangerous for older people they see it as a win and let it keep on going. In fact they are actually working to spread it by having those disgusting rallies.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:15 PM

17. I don't think he puts enough thought into it to "want" it

He wants nothing except to feed his own overweening (and roundly undeserved) sense of superiority, and his need for everyone else to acknowledge it.

He wants a big show and spectacle, with him as the star.

There is no other there, there.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:17 PM

18. Narcissistic Devaluation

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:34 PM

20. Exactly! nt

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