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AZ8theist

(5,417 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:53 PM Jun 2020

Nebraska military families "livid"..

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/29/1957064/-Nebraska-Military-Families-Livid-over-Bountygate

Fuck you , Ben Sasse. Fuck You.

You had a chance to remove this traitorous asshole, AND YOU DID NOTHING.
Don't come out now and claim you are "concerned"...

YOU WERE FUCKING TOLD BY ADAM SCHIFF IT WOULD GET WORSE. YOU WERE FUCKING TOLD.

You are as much of a traitorous pig as the clown whose boots you lick. GO FUCK YOURSELF.
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Nebraska military families "livid".. (Original Post) AZ8theist Jun 2020 OP
And so it begins... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #1
THIS malaise Jun 2020 #3
It's a big, rumbling thunder coming down the wind for them... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #4
I am actually worried for Joe to get handed this whole FAWKING mess...... a kennedy Jun 2020 #6
Well, 2naSalit Jun 2020 #8
Our alliances around the world Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #10
I think that's a little optimistic stopdiggin Jul 2020 #32
I hope he is already talking to experienced people Marthe48 Jun 2020 #12
I remember back in 2008 seeing all the Democratic presidential candidates lined up on the stage Rhiannon12866 Jul 2020 #26
Trump seems to think he can do EVERYTHING by executive order and the repugs HAVE NOT called him out. usaf-vet Jul 2020 #36
Thats why we need to take control of the senate as well ace3csusm Jun 2020 #9
Yes without the Senate, Joe & Nancy don't have everything they need to remake this country KS Toronado Jun 2020 #20
Oh yeah... MontanaMama Jun 2020 #18
Yeah, I'm waiting for the reports on the Russian payouts to their campaigns. TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #27
I'm from Omaha and I'm pissed too! imanamerican63 Jun 2020 #2
Get the vote out in the Big O jayschool2013 Jun 2020 #13
I'm not from Omaha, and I'm pissed as all-get-out! calimary Jun 2020 #21
A democrat in Nebraska? Now that's a rare gem indeed! BComplex Jul 2020 #28
ALL the republicons have blood on their hands, they like it like that MagickMuffin Jun 2020 #5
Soooo...just how much pain are those big bites in the ass causing, eh? Guilded Lilly Jun 2020 #7
DU agrees lillypaddle Jun 2020 #11
I have zero sympathy for anyone warmfeet Jun 2020 #14
That's my reaction, too. DavidDvorkin Jun 2020 #25
And mine. calimary Jul 2020 #30
Classic sASSe jayschool2013 Jun 2020 #15
Whenever/however Trump is gone, there will be many GOP retroactive epiphanies. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #16
Now we really do need someone to "shake things up" world wide wally Jun 2020 #17
It does sort of boggle the mind. plimsoll Jun 2020 #19
I'd like all those who couldn't figure out to be kept away from sharp objects, weapons, voting, erronis Jun 2020 #22
Biden should start calling him Coward Trump Major Nikon Jun 2020 #23
Yes Sasse is a traitor for trump but I'm more interested in this part NOW.. Cha Jun 2020 #24
Of course sasse is lying. Jakes Progress Jul 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #31
as a vet stopdiggin Jul 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #34
yes. that was genuine interest stopdiggin Jul 2020 #35

2naSalit

(86,353 posts)
1. And so it begins...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jun 2020

The best part where the Senators start getting their comeuppance for their role in this nightmare.

2naSalit

(86,353 posts)
4. It's a big, rumbling thunder coming down the wind for them...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jun 2020

they pushed us over the brink and now the change cometh.

Next year will be less stressful I hope.

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
6. I am actually worried for Joe to get handed this whole FAWKING mess......
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

Ugh.....high unemployment, the virus, the unrest, the unhappiness........I just really know he’ll handle it, but it’s just a huge mess.

2naSalit

(86,353 posts)
8. Well,
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

He has to reconstruct the Executive branch and its agencies, and reconstruct our alliances around the world, reconstruct our tax framework and a whole lot more.

But I am confident because he can actually do that and with many of the civil servants who were there when he was VP.

And he was VP when Obama had to clean up after W and we got the ACA in spite of total obstruction by fucking Moscow Mitch.

There's no learning curve and that is the best thing for the country right now.

With so many out of work and so many jobs not coming back we have a great opportunity to transform our workforce and infrastructure, much like was done following the depression but in preparing for a cleaner technology and food production paradigm. It's about survival from now on and we have major challenges ahead, we don't have time for going backwards. I hope that's what happens.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
10. Our alliances around the world
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jun 2020

will be fixed the moment Joe is sworn in. There's not many candidates I could say that about.

Marthe48

(16,908 posts)
12. I hope he is already talking to experienced people
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

getting plans in place, selecting individuals and teams, so by the time he is sworn in, they can all hit the ground running. I don't mind Joe's age, because he will delegate and people he appoints will do a lot of the work that needs to be done. Joe will be wonderful to repair the damage to our relationships with allies. I am most concerned about the economy. Just because the impeached traitor and his henchmen are out, doesn't mean the virus will go away. And God only knows how much the graft and corruption has bled out of the treasury. I hope that the pukes lose every Senate seat that's up and not only hold the house, but gain a bigger majority, so that Joe can do what he has to to get us back on track.

As always, I hope that there are some big changes in how America does business, not just trade deals, but fairness for employees.

Rhiannon12866

(204,818 posts)
26. I remember back in 2008 seeing all the Democratic presidential candidates lined up on the stage
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jul 2020

And my first thought was, after Bush* created such a mess, who would want the job now?! But compared to that - and we did elect a candidate who was absolutely up to the job - it seems like on every front possible, our next POTUS will have to totally reinvent the office! But I agree that Joe Biden does have that 2008 experience on his resume!

usaf-vet

(6,165 posts)
36. Trump seems to think he can do EVERYTHING by executive order and the repugs HAVE NOT called him out.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jul 2020

So the precedent is set! By Trump and the GOP.

Biden executive order #1.

I President Joseph Biden the 46 POTUS by this Executive order reset ALL changes made after January 21, 2017, by executive order to the conditions as they were on January 1, 2017. UNTIL each change can be properly reviewed by the official government agency responsible. See executive order #2 for additional directions.

Biden executive order #2.

I President Joseph Biden the 46 POTUS by this Executive order SUSPEND every federal employee hired after January 21, 2017, UNTIL they are properly vetted by official government agencies responsible for said personnel.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
9. Thats why we need to take control of the senate as well
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jun 2020

we wont be able to make necessary changes if their is a republican senate hitting the brakes because they would rather watch it burn down then let democratic s get thing done

KS Toronado

(17,158 posts)
20. Yes without the Senate, Joe & Nancy don't have everything they need to remake this country
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jun 2020

In fact I'm thinking all donations going forward should go into Senate races we can flip to blue.
Joe would like donations but he's such a shoe in with dumpies latest Russian bounty story there's
no way he loses the election. So any spare coins people, let's help those running for the Senate.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
18. Oh yeah...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jun 2020

Chairman Schiff did indeed say it would get worse...and it will, I have no doubt. Somebody dropped this dime on the MF now for a reason. There will be more and it will be BAD. Count on it.

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
13. Get the vote out in the Big O
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jun 2020

Biden can win NE-2 and get an electoral vote. Doesn't look like Janicek has much of a chance against Sasse, though. I'm always amazed at how House District 2 can be about 50-50, and Lincoln brings the House District 1 balance closer to even there, but Republicans still win state-wide elections by 30 and 40 points. House District 3 has to be among the reddest in the country. Imagine being a Democrat in Falls City or Alliance. Yikes.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
21. I'm not from Omaha, and I'm pissed as all-get-out!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

And I'm ALSO pissed - on your behalf!

So that must mean I'm doubly pissed!

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
5. ALL the republicons have blood on their hands, they like it like that
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jun 2020

They could have ensured their reelections but they decided Party over Country!

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
14. I have zero sympathy for anyone
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

that ever supported this treasonous bastard. Johnny come lately's.

To hell with every last one of them.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
30. And mine.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to vote republi-CON.

If you believe the CON job, vote for the CONmen, and then complain when they actually make the CON a reality that inevitably comes around to smack you in the face, then you deserve what you get.

And I have NO sympathy for you. You were offered something better. You CHOSE to turn it down.

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
15. Classic sASSe
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jun 2020

Sasse said Congress “is broken” and needs to pull together to “get to the bottom of two questions.”

“Who knew what when inside the administration? Did the commander in chief know? If not, why the heck not? What’s going on in that process?” he said.

Two questions? I count four question marks, and probably five questions.

Sasse said the second question is “What is our plan to impose proportional response on our enemies in this battle?”

Oh, another question? So five or six questions, right Sen. sASSe? Here's a question, Ben: What has happened to the state that gave us Bob Kerrey and Jim Exon?

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
17. Now we really do need someone to "shake things up"
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jun 2020

Joe may be a few years older than most firs term Presidents, but it won't take him a full term to learn the ropes... So we still come out ahead with Bye-don

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
19. It does sort of boggle the mind.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jun 2020

You were unable to figure out that this guy was a revolting pig who would tear the country apart.

Really?

The whole birther thing?
Grab em buy the "p*ssy".

The list was huge before the election. I'm glad some people are waking up to the fact that the individual is actually unfit to be called a man let alone President, but seriously if you couldn't figure that out before hand you have your own screws loose.

As Charlie Pierce says, "should be kept away from sharp objects, let alone control their own money."

erronis

(15,185 posts)
22. I'd like all those who couldn't figure out to be kept away from sharp objects, weapons, voting,
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jun 2020

public platforms, social media.

Best to just put all 30% (and the repuglicon congress) in confinement for a few election cycles.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
23. Biden should start calling him Coward Trump
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jun 2020

I’m not so big on name calling from presidential candidates as it suggests intellectual bankruptcy. But it is a language Trump’s intellectually bankrupt supporters understand. That’s a label Trump is not going to be able to tear off.

Cha

(296,881 posts)
24. Yes Sasse is a traitor for trump but I'm more interested in this part NOW..
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jun 2020
“I’ve been hearing from military families in Nebraska constantly for the last 36 hours, and they’re livid,” [Sasse] said. “This is a story about the targeting of American men and women in uniform. This is about putting crosshairs on the backs of people who are fighting for our freedom. This is not about short-term politics.” [emphasis added]

This is a double crack in the wall. Ben Sasse, a Republican up for re-election in a year when Trump is also on the ballot, ought to be kissing Trump’s …. to get his base to vote for him. Instead, when Bunker Boy tweeted Sunday night that the intel community hadn’t briefed him, Sasse wasn’t having any of it:

“Who knew what when? Did the commander in chief know? And if he didn’t, how in the hell didn’t he know?” he said.

Just as (even more?) significant is that military families, who are generally more conservative, go for “traditional family values” and have been one of Trump’s major bases of support, are screaming bloody murder over Trump’s letting Putin get away with real murder. Sasse sees the importance of that, too:

“I think that it should be clear that we are deadly serious about this topic because it’s a deadly serious topic. Most of the families that have contacted me are not the kinds of people who do the 24-hour news cycle,” he said.

Mahalo, AZ

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
29. Of course sasse is lying.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jul 2020

As will be all of the other republicans who "discover" that trump is a pig.

They knew what he was and who he is all along.

But for them to say at this date that they have just discovered about trump what everyone else in Washington has known for four years, is just them confessing to their constituents that they are stupid beyond words, that they are way too slow to be in office.

Liar or ignorant fool. They have to be one. (Although many are both.)

Response to AZ8theist (Original post)

stopdiggin

(11,252 posts)
33. as a vet
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jul 2020

have you been largely satisfied with the foreign policy and utilization of the military under this administration? (genuinely curious)

Response to stopdiggin (Reply #33)

stopdiggin

(11,252 posts)
35. yes. that was genuine interest
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

the military almost always gets used in (some) political sense .. I think that's just part of the bag .. the difference with Trump is .. well, that a lot of it just seems so inchoate and incoherent .. do we actually have a articulate foreign policy? .. our obvious disdain and contempt for any type of treaty or accord .. and then the troubling question as to who and what are "allies" are (if in fact we have any) in our current incarnation.

It's all pretty muddled .. and if I was wearing the uniform right now, I honestly can't say what my thoughts might be.

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