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Staph

(6,251 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:04 PM Jun 2020

Personal opinion: This bounty thing will finally explode

when there are names to apply to the bounties.

When we can say the Cpl. John Smith and Sgt. Jane Jones were killed in Afghanistan and that Russia paid money for the deaths, when we can see the photographs of Cpl. Smith and Sgt. Jones and know that they were killed for money, that's when America will stand up and say no.


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Personal opinion: This bounty thing will finally explode (Original Post) Staph Jun 2020 OP
Yes, when we say their names. FM123 Jun 2020 #1
That's right. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #2
Some names out there already soothsayer Jun 2020 #3
Nope matt819 Jun 2020 #4
Of course, but it's another issue for Trump that helps keep his approval near 40% rather than 45% Quixote1818 Jun 2020 #9
it will change nothing, nothing compares to covid disaster AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #5
1 person is a tragedy, 126k are a statistic soothsayer Jun 2020 #6
Yeah they will chnge things... elevator Jun 2020 #7
In the humble words of Rafiki from the Lion King... Vdizzle Jun 2020 #12
In West Virginia Staph Jun 2020 #16
Thanks for saying this. laurieu Jun 2020 #20
Welcome to DU, Staph! calimary Jun 2020 #24
Thanks for the welcome Staph Jun 2020 #25
Even better! calimary Jun 2020 #27
Welcome to DU, elevator! calimary Jun 2020 #23
I think it will change everything... Tribetime Jun 2020 #8
Trump cannot pull off plausible deniability. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #13
silent partner Flaleftist Jun 2020 #18
If 1000s of US soldiers dying in Iraq for no WMDs didn't change Republicans... AllTooEasy Jun 2020 #15
Because I believe they can blame that on intelligence this Tribetime Jun 2020 #19
I was thinking this yesterday. Thanks for bringing it up. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2020 #10
I hope you're right seta1950 Jun 2020 #11
Not likely to happen, IMO. Russians are masters at covering their tracks. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #14
No, People who continue to support Trump do not care about other lives like this JI7 Jun 2020 #17
Yep Pepsidog Jun 2020 #21
No, it won't Dopers_Greed Jun 2020 #22
I totally agree with you, I think this is going to be the thing that does it. Happyhippychick Jun 2020 #26

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
2. That's right.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:11 PM
Jun 2020

When we see names and faces. Real people, soldiers, who died because of a corrupted president caught up in something sick and twisted.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
3. Some names out there already
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jun 2020

Snip

The U.S. is investigating whether any Americans died as a result of the Russian bounties. Officials are focused in particular on an April 2019 attack on an American convoy. Three U.S. Marines were killed after a car rigged with explosives detonated near their armored vehicles as they returned to Bagram Airfield, the largest U.S. military installation in Afghanistan.

The Defense Department identified Marine Staff Sgt. Christopher Slutman, 43, from Newark, Delaware; Sgt. Benjamin Hines, 31, from York, Pennsylvania; and Cpl. Robert Hendriks, 25, from Locust Valley, New York, as the Marines killed in April 2019. The three Marines were all infantrymen assigned to 2nd Battalion, 25th Marines, a reserve infantry unit headquartered out of Garden City, New York.

Hendriks' father told the AP that even a rumor of Russian bounties should have been immediately addressed.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
9. Of course, but it's another issue for Trump that helps keep his approval near 40% rather than 45%
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:46 AM
Jun 2020

or 50%. That's what these battles are about. The fight for that 5% shift. That 5% who for some strange reason can still be persuaded.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
5. it will change nothing, nothing compares to covid disaster
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jun 2020

125k dead, if that’s not enough, a dozen dead soldiers won’t change a thing.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
7. Yeah they will chnge things...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jun 2020

The military is about the last institution in the US the public respects. I don't know how much difference it will make, but, imo, it will be huge, if proven true.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
12. In the humble words of Rafiki from the Lion King...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:49 AM
Jun 2020

“Nope! Wrong again! Haha!”


The deplorables won’t give a shit.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
16. In West Virginia
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jun 2020

we have the highest rate of enrollment in the military. It's one way out of the mines, off the farm, out of the small town.

West Virginians are very proud of their family members who served. This story, if presented properly, will resonate.

Will Trump still win West Virginia? Probably. But it will be a much smaller percentage. And the story could help with down ballot races.


(And please, no more put downs of West Virginians. We Democrats in this state have an uphill battle, and your slams of my fellow West Virginians make the task of electing Democrats even harder.)


laurieu

(53 posts)
20. Thanks for saying this.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:41 AM
Jun 2020

Last edited Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)

I have family in West Virginia and I get facebook posts all about supporting our troops, supporting our President, etc. This is the kind of thing that might actually shake some people.

calimary

(81,122 posts)
24. Welcome to DU, Staph!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 02:12 AM
Jun 2020

I can appreciate how you feel. I went to a college that was this little island of liberalism in a conservative sea. Happy to see that area has trended more and more toward blue through the years.

calimary

(81,122 posts)
23. Welcome to DU, elevator!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 02:07 AM
Jun 2020

I was afraid this wouldn't "move the meter" last weekend. It'd come and go and everybody's just so exhausted and sick of all this that they're numbed out and ...

Hmm... but look at the coverage all day. TODAY. A few days later. It had all weekend to come to a head. And who knows? Maybe this will build toward a furious critical mass.

VOTE. EVERYBODY VOTE!!! Like your life - AND your country - both depend on it!

'Cause they do.

Tribetime

(4,682 posts)
8. I think it will change everything...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:42 AM
Jun 2020

The families telling their stories of their loved ones giving their life for this country only to be ignored by asswipe

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
13. Trump cannot pull off plausible deniability.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:50 AM
Jun 2020

He can do the blame game with the pandemic. Being a silent partner in the murder of US soldiers is different.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
15. If 1000s of US soldiers dying in Iraq for no WMDs didn't change Republicans...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:00 AM
Jun 2020

...what makes you think that 2 dead soldiers in Afghanistan will do it?

My only hope is that Independents commit to the Dems. Trump could have shot those soldiers himself in downtown Manhattan, and his supporters still wouldn’t leave him.

Tribetime

(4,682 posts)
19. Because I believe they can blame that on intelligence this
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:29 AM
Jun 2020

This begs for a response from the president of which there is none

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
14. Not likely to happen, IMO. Russians are masters at covering their tracks.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jun 2020

Even if they get lucky and catch a shooter, how are they going to trace some cash payment to him back to a stranger with money that disappeared into the night?


KY.............

JI7

(89,240 posts)
17. No, People who continue to support Trump do not care about other lives like this
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jun 2020

things that will get them to change will be things like personal financial situations . or anything else that affects them personally.

but not empathy for others.

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