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Dear DU Tweeters: a subject line and a blue link are useless to me. Please paste the content... (Original Post) Hekate Jun 2020 OP
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #1
KR.. I know when Cha Jun 2020 #2
Thanks, Cha Hekate Jun 2020 #6
So far so good.. I just got something Cha Jun 2020 #8
I try to remember that. herding cats Jun 2020 #3
Thanks, herding cats! Hekate Jun 2020 #7
Thank you. It annoys me to actually have to go to twitter, and now it freezes my computer niyad Jun 2020 #4
Ohh.. that would be bad! Cha Jun 2020 #9
Thanks. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2020 #5
Thanks for posting this Raine Jun 2020 #10
Sorry, I completely forgot about all that. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #11
Another way to do this would be to post the content in the first reply gristy Jun 2020 #12
i don't know orleans Jun 2020 #13
It depends on how you have your browser's security DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #20
Wrong, at least in some instances. On Mon, I could see the tweets in the OP's. On Tues, I niyad Jun 2020 #22
That Happened To Me ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #43
I should check to see if Mercury is retrograde. niyad Jun 2020 #45
sorry--i didn't know orleans Jun 2020 #14
I just click on the little twitter logo in the uppe right corner and the message pops up. CTyankee Jun 2020 #15
That works, but only if more than just the blue "link to Tweet" shows up. niyad Jun 2020 #24
Then, I think, I get another, larger logo and click on that to get the tweet, IIRC... CTyankee Jun 2020 #50
here are some i've tweeted lately (i'll try to remember to copy the message from now on) orleans Jun 2020 #16
Hey Hekate canetoad Jun 2020 #17
I don't have problems seeing tweets on DU even on Windows XP Denzil_DC Jun 2020 #33
I have an old iPad & will shortly have a new one... Hekate Jun 2020 #48
I just click on it and it opens in another browser window. totodeinhere Jun 2020 #18
please help... handmade34 Jun 2020 #19
Yes I can see it gristy Jun 2020 #21
do you have a twitter account? handmade34 Jun 2020 #26
I do not have a twitter account and I can see all tweets posted on DU gristy Jun 2020 #28
I DO NOT have a twitter account, but I can see them and I post many. Here is how to do it hlthe2b Jun 2020 #39
No. All I see is the blue "link to tweet" niyad Jun 2020 #25
is it because you don't have account? handmade34 Jun 2020 #27
Up until Tues, I could see the embedded links. Then I couldn't, and actually had to go to Twitter. niyad Jun 2020 #30
No, not having a Twitter account should make no difference. Denzil_DC Jun 2020 #34
What kind of device are you using? Is this maybe a mobile limitation? Roland99 Jun 2020 #29
If you want help with this problem, I think you're going to have to supply some information. Denzil_DC Jun 2020 #36
Chances are it's the age of one's computer and/or browser. HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #40
I don't think it's age of system or browser necessarily. Denzil_DC Jun 2020 #41
It is my computer and browser. HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #44
Chances are, it's twitter trying to more efficiently monetize the content. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #52
Could be. HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #54
Only the blue link for me on my laptop Hav Jun 2020 #46
Just the blue "link to tweet" Hekate Jun 2020 #49
I apologize for handmade34 Jun 2020 #51
Thank you so much Hekate Jun 2020 #53
What happens when you click on the link? gristy Jun 2020 #23
The point is that there should be some preview of what lies at the link JHB Jun 2020 #31
yes.... although handmade34 Jun 2020 #32
It's supposed to appear, but sometimes it doesn't JHB Jun 2020 #35
makes sense... handmade34 Jun 2020 #37
Thank you for saying it superpatriotman Jun 2020 #38
FWIW - Often they are just slow loading and reloading the page can pop them in here Lucinda Jun 2020 #42
This could indeed be the answer for some people. Denzil_DC Jun 2020 #55
... demmiblue Jun 2020 #47

Cha

(295,899 posts)
8. So far so good.. I just got something
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jun 2020

fixed remotely by my tech guy that was freaking me out so I'm happy right this minute!

You, too, Hekate!

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
3. I try to remember that.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jun 2020

If ever I forget, don't be shy about requesting it from me. I do not not mind and it was a simple oversight.

niyad

(112,432 posts)
4. Thank you. It annoys me to actually have to go to twitter, and now it freezes my computer
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:44 AM
Jun 2020

Each time that I do. This is a recent problem, very annoying.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
12. Another way to do this would be to post the content in the first reply
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 01:14 AM
Jun 2020

Then the content isn't duplicated in the OP for all the folks for which the tweet actually shows up in the OP.

Anyone know why the tweet shows up for some and not others?

orleans

(33,986 posts)
13. i don't know
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:03 AM
Jun 2020

why it doesn't show up for some

but it seems i have a bit of editing to do ... with the tweets i've posted...

niyad

(112,432 posts)
22. Wrong, at least in some instances. On Mon, I could see the tweets in the OP's. On Tues, I
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:56 AM
Jun 2020

Couldn't, and I had not changed anything. Then yesterday, every time I actually went to Twitter, my computer froze.

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
43. That Happened To Me
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

Then, it was better! I didn't change anything!
Worked, stopped working, started working again. Benn ok since.
Odd!

CTyankee

(63,769 posts)
15. I just click on the little twitter logo in the uppe right corner and the message pops up.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:09 AM
Jun 2020

I learned that by siple trial and error. Like "hmm, I wonder what would happen if I clicked on the Twitter logo?" and to my surprise VOILA!

CTyankee

(63,769 posts)
50. Then, I think, I get another, larger logo and click on that to get the tweet, IIRC...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jun 2020

I think that's how I get them. I'm hopeless with all this media. Hubby and I are real relics...

orleans

(33,986 posts)
16. here are some i've tweeted lately (i'll try to remember to copy the message from now on)
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:22 AM
Jun 2020

jeff tiedrich:
tiedrich after dark ... tweet
"still waiting for Trump to collude with America, even just once"
9:35 PM · Jun 26, 2020

great tweet from tiedrich this morning
"in one generation we went from being the country that went to the moon to being the country that can't put on a fucking mask. fucking pathetic"
8:46 AM · Jun 25, 2020

(jeff tiedrich)
another great tweet
"imagine exposing your most-fervent supporters to a plague with no cure because it's the only way to fill that empty place where your soul should be, and to prove to your father's ghost that you're not the loser he said you were"
1:58 PM · Jun 20, 2020


tweet on how voting went in georgia (by daniel newman)
"THIS CORRUPTION MAKES ME SO MAD🤬!!
GEORGIA: to register to Vote you must SCROLL THUR Every single Street in Georgia 1 by 1 to find your street! $117 MILLION spent for this new voting system & this is the BS they give us!? #VoterSuppression & Poll locations Broken or Closed!
& after doing all this they still never mailed me anything for absentee voting by mail! And people waited for eight hours at the few open polling places by my house, one Location was put in a SENIOR LIVING HOME exposing them to Thousands of people During a pandemic!"
10:54 AM · Jun 23, 2020

stephen king tweets about pence
"Given his Christian beliefs, Mike Pence must believe the day will come when he will have to stand before the throne of God and explain why he put politics ahead of human lives in the matters of masks and public gatherings."
5:17 PM · Jun 26, 2020


i can't stand this guy but i agree with what he says here. and it chills me.
bill kristol:
"You look at the polls and think "he can't win." But Trump's path to victory doesn't depend on persuading Americans. It depends on voter suppression, mass disinformation, foreign interference, and unabashed use of executive branch power to shape events, and perceptions, this fall."
6:52 AM · Jun 22, 2020

bette midler tweets "dear donnie..."
"Dear Donnie,
Well, the reviews are in and you laid an egg in Tulsa! And man, you were sweating bullets up there. The optics were lousy, but the yawns were infectious! Even I was yawning. Try not to kill off your entire base. Another night like this and they'll die of boredom."
10:55 PM · Jun 20, 2020

canetoad

(17,088 posts)
17. Hey Hekate
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:23 AM
Jun 2020

Are you using an older version of Windows combined with an older browser?

No way will I insist that you update, but can only tell you my experience. I hung onto XP for a dozen years after it became defunct. Main reason was I thought Vista, Win7 and 8/8.1 were not good OSs. Yeah, I know the attachment to Win 7, but I never liked it. I also use many old and obscure 'one function' programs that I was reluctant to have stop working.

If the migration to Win10 and an updated browser is your problem, let me reassure you that it's not as bad as you imagine. There are certain tweaks you can make that will make your computer recognisable again. I'm happy to walk you through them.

PM me and I'll even provide references.

Denzil_DC

(7,187 posts)
33. I don't have problems seeing tweets on DU even on Windows XP
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jun 2020

and using the last XP-supported release of Firefox. (I have a newer laptop that runs Windows 10, but still use my old one quite often.)

I mention this because an operating system update is likely a red herring here, desirable as it might be for other reasons.

More likely supects would be, as you say, browser version, and particularly any blocking add-ons. For example, I use Ghostery on both my XP and W10 laptops (invaluable in speeding up Internet use as it blocks ads etc. that can often be slow to load and stop a whole page displaying). I did have problems ages ago with Ghostery blocking the display of tweets on DU, but it was easily solved by whitelisting a social media button in the settings.

I do habitually paste the text and any pastable images when I post tweets. Then someone occasionally complains, "Why is the same text repeated, IT'S ANNOYING," so there's no satisfying everybody!

Doing this is a good idea anyway, as tweets are sometimes deleted, so at least we have a record of what was posted if that happens.

Also, sometimes Twitter is temporarily unavailable, in which case all you'll see is "Link to Tweet" until the problem clears. That may confuse the situation when folks are trying to troubleshoot.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
48. I have an old iPad & will shortly have a new one...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

The current one has been useful and fun -- years ago I got the Mini so I could travel with it & ended up using it exclusively -- but of late has refused to load any new apps. For instance, NextDoor upgraded and now I can't get in to check on local bulletins from County Health Dept and such. I wanted to try Insta-Cart and same thing. Wanted to get a robot vacuum cleaner -- and it won't work without the app, which won't download. And it really doesn't like Twitter.

I gave up and finally got a new device, a full-size iPad, which has something like 10 times the memory of the old one. We'll set it up this weekend.

But my emotional problem with Twitter is unlikely to go away. Sure, I get a little charge out of some comment or other repeated here, but I have no intention of reading a million Tweet-replies or following anyone. It's too much like being a lab rat pressing a lever for a pellet.

I'm already addicted to DU, so to speak. I check it first thing in the morning, and last at night. But DU is a discussion board. We come here to discuss -- we traffic in complete sentences and thoughts. I want to know what my friends think. Oh, and George Takei, as long as his comment is pasted into your post.

Rant off.

Many Thanks for the offer to help, by the way. I tend to cling to old technology until forced to change.




handmade34

(22,755 posts)
19. please help...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:37 AM
Jun 2020

I may be posting inappropriately out of ignorance of how others view/not view... can you readily see this???




handmade34

(22,755 posts)
26. do you have a twitter account?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:02 AM
Jun 2020

I am wondering if people w/o account can't readily see?? when sharing, I use the "embed link" and am wondering how others link tweets

can you see any and all tweets posted here on DU?

hlthe2b

(101,714 posts)
39. I DO NOT have a twitter account, but I can see them and I post many. Here is how to do it
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jun 2020

so that it shows up, though video does not always play on some browsers without going to the twitter site, since the embed feature long since ceased to work.

TO post tweets, click on the specific tweet within the twitter STREAM, go to the URL line and copy and paste the entire url address. IF (important) the twitter address includes the word "mobile," edit to delete that word out of the address. VOILA. It works.

niyad

(112,432 posts)
30. Up until Tues, I could see the embedded links. Then I couldn't, and actually had to go to Twitter.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

Where I could see, even without an account. Then yesterday, every time I went there, my computer froze. Most annoying.

Denzil_DC

(7,187 posts)
34. No, not having a Twitter account should make no difference.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jun 2020

I have an account, but I can see Tweets even when I'm not logged in to Twitter, and I could see them before I bothered setting up an account.

Denzil_DC

(7,187 posts)
36. If you want help with this problem, I think you're going to have to supply some information.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jun 2020

What hardware are you using to access DU?

Are you accessing it from your home Internet connection, a work connection, or in some other way (e.g. via mobile phone)?

What operating system?

What browser?

Are you running any plugins or other add-ons within that browser? If so, one of these may have updated in the background and you may need to change its settings to see tweets on DU.

Can you see tweets on other websites?

For example, Balloon Juice usually has a number of tweets embedded in the posts on its front page: can you see the tweets there? - https://www.balloon-juice.com/

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
40. Chances are it's the age of one's computer and/or browser.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jun 2020

I can't see the tweets anymore on my 2013 MacBookPro running Chrome (which can't be updated anymore and Firefox won't even run), but they display just fine on my powerhouse MacPro and newer MacBookPro.

Funny where snippy blame is placed sometimes.





Denzil_DC

(7,187 posts)
41. I don't think it's age of system or browser necessarily.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jun 2020

I can see DU tweets just fine on my ancient Dell Inspiron 6400 running Windows XP and a very old (and no longer supported) version of Firefox.

I've never used Chrome (nor owned, though I've used occasionally, a Mac), so in your case, that could be the problem.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
44. It is my computer and browser.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jun 2020

As I said, the same tweets that don't appear on my older, un-updatable to another browser Mac appear perfectly fine and functional on my other Macs that are much, much newer.

Either way, I couldn't care less half the time if I see a Tweet or not.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,033 posts)
52. Chances are, it's twitter trying to more efficiently monetize the content.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jun 2020

It's not the age of the computer or browser; it's changes being made by twitter.

The likelihood is that twitter wants more information from each system accessing tweets and is testing various ways of doing so. It is likely that this testing is the reason people on various systems report twitter working, not working, then working again.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
54. Could be.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jun 2020

As if it's a video on 'actual' Twitter my slower computer can't play it but I can see regular text Tweets just fine.

Either way, I'm not really missing much - Twitter is more or less a gutter.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
46. Only the blue link for me on my laptop
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jun 2020

But apparently that's also browser and device dependent.

On my mobile device, the content of the tweet is always displayed instead of the link. So if someone would copy paste or embed the content, the tweet is shown twice.

handmade34

(22,755 posts)
51. I apologize for
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jun 2020

tweets not seen with no reference... I will be more mindful of these things in the future

JHB

(37,128 posts)
31. The point is that there should be some preview of what lies at the link
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:14 AM
Jun 2020

...either a display of the tweet, or if that doesn't appear, copied text, so that the reader here at DU can decide whether or not she/he is interested enough to pursue it further.

Similar to how if you're sharing an article, post a portion of it (<4 paragraphs to stay within fair use guidelines) so that people can read the gist of it and decide if they want to follow through to the whole thing.

And for that latter example, I'll add my own request to posters: Don't just quote the first four paragraphs, because sometimes that's still introductory text and the main thrust of the article comes later. Skip down a bit and excerpt some of the paragraphs that get into the thick of what the subject line said.

handmade34

(22,755 posts)
32. yes.... although
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jun 2020

when someone links a tweet it automatically comes up on my screen as a tweet and I assumed it did for others as well... I'm trying to understand why.... it the computer system?

JHB

(37,128 posts)
35. It's supposed to appear, but sometimes it doesn't
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jun 2020

It can vary by the settings people have, and other factors. Some people read DU on systems that block Twitter, so they don't see anything. Sometimes an update to the browser or on Twitter will cause an issue where there hadn't been one previously. And I think something displays differently for people who don't have Twitter accounts, but I can't test that because I do.

Copying the text into an "excerpt" box, or giving a brief description lets people get the gist of it without relying on display features that aren't as universal as you might think.

handmade34

(22,755 posts)
37. makes sense...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jun 2020

after discussion and playing with another computer here in house, it obviously is a system issue...

I will be more cognizant about posting in the future... although often a tweet's virtue is not in the text but the photos/video

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
42. FWIW - Often they are just slow loading and reloading the page can pop them in here
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jun 2020
Especially on a long thread.
I figured it out when I had the same issues with my tablet.
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