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Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

Santa Cruz ends beach closure because 'people are not willing to be governed anymore'

I live south of the city of Santa Cruz overlooking the beach and have seen the park rangers and sheriffs try to warn people off the beaches and they do their best but are outnumbered.


SANTA CRUZ, Calif. (KGO) -- Beaches in Santa Cruz County will reopen starting at midnight Thursday night, even as the county's coronavirus continue to rise.

"We had hoped to continue the beach closure until after Fourth of July weekend, but it's become impossible for law enforcement to continue to enforce that closure," said Santa Cruz County health officer Dr. Gail Newel. "People are not willing to be governed anymore in that regard."

Beaches have been closed to sunbathers and picnickers for weeks in Santa Cruz, with a "keep it moving" policy to discourage congregating. That will no longer be the case starting Friday morning.

Starting July 6, the county's shelter-in-place order will expire, bringing Santa Cruz County fully in line with the state's reopening timeline.

https://abc7news.com/6267719/

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Reply Santa Cruz ends beach closure because 'people are not willing to be governed anymore' (Original post)
Alex4Martinez Jun 25 OP
Blecht Jun 25 #1
Iggo Jun 25 #8
onecaliberal Jun 25 #2
Hoyt Jun 25 #3
Alex4Martinez Jun 25 #5
Ex Lurker Jun 25 #4
Alex4Martinez Jun 25 #7
PBC_Democrat Jun 25 #6
dutch777 Jun 25 #9

Response to Alex4Martinez (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

1. Let's hope they don't start killing each other

There's nothing we can do -- they don't want to be governed.

What a crock of shit.

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Response to Blecht (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

8. That's exactly what they're doing by ignoring the virus.

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Response to Alex4Martinez (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

2. What the fuck? This is a very liberal city.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

3. Lots of liberals ain't social distancing either, sadly.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

5. And, there's a peculiar variety of new age thinkers here, anti-vaxers, anti-mask.

Wisdom Councils and people who think 5G and smart meters are the work of the deep state, yet self identify as progressive.

Not that there's anything wrong with worrying about smart meters and wind turbines that give you cancer, or whatever.

It's a big tent.

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Response to Alex4Martinez (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:51 PM

4. As long as people dont gather in big groups

The risk at a beach should be faitly minimal.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

7. It's not about their time on the beach, it's about every other thing they do.

The go shopping without masks, start drinking in close groups, they're in their cars driving hours to get here.

In the beginning, the order was to stay in county and my wife and I, who keep separate homes, followed that rule.

We were doing pretty well compared to other counties but I think that may change soon.

I suspect there's some pressure from businesses to not lose summer tourist income.

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Response to Alex4Martinez (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

6. I Think the Relevant Saying is ...

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Governments govern with the consent of the governed.
... to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson

When the populace no longer 'buys in' the government starts to become irrelevant.

Think speeding, jaywalking, and any other widespread civil disobedience.

Passing unenforceable laws/polices ultimately diminishes the legitimacy of government.

It's not good, it's not bad, it;s just a fact.





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Response to Alex4Martinez (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

9. Can we discontinue their insurance and not cover any medical bills?

I wonder how many people of all ages and others stripes who have taken the disease home and while they may have mild or no symptoms, end up killing grandma or their sister fighting cancer and immunocompromised ?

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