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Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:50 PM

Please Help!

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On Saturday, June 6, there was a Black Lives Matter rally in Delihi, N.Y. Delhi is the seat of Delaware County, and the only town in the state's largest county to have a college. The rally was attended by over 200 people, and was orderly and peaceful.

However, during the rally, a men wearing a MAGA hat and carrying an offensive sign approached the rally. He was accompanied by a young girl, who appeared to be a grade school student. Almost immediately, this man was aggressively confronting the smallest black teenager he could find.

A group of older women got between the man and the teenager. They attempted to reason with him, which only resulted in his becoming enraged. He actually threatened to punch one old lady. This was clearly upsetting to his daughter (or granddaughter), and other children attending the rally.

Luckily for this fellow, a Delhi police officer intervened and removed him from the rally. When two newspaper reporters asked him his name, he refused to answer. However, some people at the rally recognized him. His name is Chris Cormier, who teaches introductory psychology at SUNY-Delhi.

There is a grass roots' effort to get the college's administration to evaluate Mr. Cormier's actions. This is not about free speech, bu rather about the synergy of hate speech and physical threats. The state's colleges and universities should not employ such a man.

Below is a petition from change.org asking the college to take action:
https://www.change.org/p/suny-delhi-professor-cormier-is-punished-for-his-unjust-behavior?recruiter=1113947083&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_petition&recruited_by_id=74026130-aa75-11ea-89a7-711bf497498c

SUNY-Delhi's president is George Spielman, who can be reached at 607-746-4090, or by e-mail at president@delhi.edu .Please consider signing the petition, and contacting the college's president.

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H2O Man Jun 9 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 9 #1
H2O Man Jun 9 #6
Lord Ludd Jun 9 #33
lagomorph777 Jun 10 #67
H2O Man Jun 10 #68
Wounded Bear Jun 9 #38
cp Jun 9 #2
H2O Man Jun 9 #7
panader0 Jun 9 #3
H2O Man Jun 9 #8
madaboutharry Jun 9 #4
H2O Man Jun 9 #9
mopinko Jun 9 #50
bbernardini Jun 9 #5
H2O Man Jun 9 #10
brush Jun 9 #12
H2O Man Jun 9 #15
CaliforniaPeggy Jun 9 #11
H2O Man Jun 9 #16
cwydro Jun 9 #13
H2O Man Jun 9 #18
RainCaster Jun 9 #14
H2O Man Jun 9 #20
central scrutinizer Jun 9 #25
H2O Man Jun 9 #26
lagomorph777 Jun 10 #69
Lochloosa Jun 9 #17
H2O Man Jun 9 #21
babylonsister Jun 9 #19
H2O Man Jun 9 #22
babylonsister Jun 9 #29
SheltieLover Jun 9 #23
H2O Man Jun 9 #24
SheltieLover Jun 9 #45
H2O Man Jun 9 #52
SheltieLover Jun 9 #53
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 9 #27
H2O Man Jun 9 #28
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 9 #46
H2O Man Jun 9 #48
RhodeIslandOne Jun 9 #30
yonder Jun 9 #41
Grokenstein Jun 9 #49
H2O Man Jun 10 #55
H2O Man Jun 10 #56
Dagstead Bumwood Jun 11 #85
JHB Jun 10 #61
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 10 #65
tblue37 Jun 11 #84
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 11 #86
Dennis Donovan Jun 9 #31
H2O Man Jun 10 #57
Alex4Martinez Jun 9 #32
H2O Man Jun 10 #58
Demsrule86 Jun 9 #34
H2O Man Jun 10 #59
JDC Jun 9 #35
H2O Man Jun 10 #60
NBachers Jun 9 #36
H2O Man Jun 10 #62
ms liberty Jun 9 #37
H2O Man Jun 10 #64
spanone Jun 9 #39
Lucky Luciano Jun 9 #40
H2O Man Jun 9 #51
Duppers Jun 9 #42
H2O Man Jun 10 #70
scarletwoman Jun 9 #43
H2O Man Jun 10 #72
Hekate Jun 9 #44
H2O Man Jun 10 #73
denvine Jun 9 #47
H2O Man Jun 10 #74
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 10 #54
H2O Man Jun 10 #75
Shiv Jun 10 #63
H2O Man Jun 10 #76
Tom Rinaldo Jun 10 #66
H2O Man Jun 10 #71
Tom Rinaldo Jun 10 #77
sellitman Jun 10 #78
H2O Man Jun 10 #79
Faux pas Jun 10 #80
H2O Man Jun 11 #81
Mike 03 Jun 11 #82
H2O Man Jun 11 #83

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:53 PM

1. This dude is a psych professor?

Physician, heal thyself...

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:57 PM

6. Right?

I know he teaches, but am not sure his education level is that of a professor.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:04 PM

33. More like a psycho professor nt

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Response to Lord Ludd (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:45 AM

67. Crazy teaching crazy. Awesome.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #67)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:46 AM

68. I learned late

last night that he has a series of complaints against him. Shocking, I know, he seemed so "normal."

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:12 PM

38. Who better to run RW psyops?

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:54 PM

2. Done!

Thank you, H2O Man.

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Response to cp (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:57 PM

7. Thanks!

Much appreciated!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:56 PM

3. Done.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:58 PM

8. Thank you!

We need as many people as possible to sign this!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:56 PM

4. He teaches psychology yet he apparently

needs an intervention and evaluation in a psychiatric unit.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:01 PM

9. Thanks!

He threatened to punch an old lady. What type of coward does that? The police officer did the right thing.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:43 PM

50. i have proposed a test for those who carry a badge.

 

watch them get cussed out by a pissed off little old lady.
if they flinch, strip them of their badge.
they are cowards.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:56 PM

5. Signed and shared. nt

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Response to bbernardini (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:02 PM

10. Thank you so much!

I really appreciate that you are sharing this. I've posted it on a few facebook groups. And the biggest internet boxing site is carrying it.

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Response to bbernardini (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:03 PM

12. You must mean it's the largest county in area, not population?

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Response to brush (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:07 PM

15. Right.

It's the largest size-wise. Rural, and more than a few red necks inhabit it.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:03 PM

11. Done! Thank you, dear H20 Man! n/t

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:08 PM

16. Thanks!

Much appreciated!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:04 PM

13. Where is the video of his actions?

Maybe the link isn't working fully for me. I just see the article.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:10 PM

18. The video(s)

are on facebook sites, and I believe that two area newspapers have them on their web sites. These papers are The Daily Star (Oneonta) and The Reporter (Walton).

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:06 PM

14. Signed

This cannot go on

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:12 PM

20. Thank you.

It's not clear if it was his daughter or granddaughter. What type of fool brings a child when they are trying to start a fight? To see him threaten an old lady? A cowardly fool!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:30 PM

25. A shield?

Probably hoped no one would accost him with a young girl at his side

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:36 PM

26. Right.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:46 AM

69. Probably his girlfriend.

Creep.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:10 PM

17. Done K/R and Tweeted

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:12 PM

21. Thank you!

Very much appreciated!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:10 PM

19. Signed! nt

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:13 PM

22. Thanks!

Much appreciated -- of course, I ALWAYS appreciate you!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:45 PM

29. Awww, and I you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:21 PM

23. Signed

Thank you, H2O!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #23)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:25 PM

24. Thank you!

The guy was out of control. And that easily could have caused other things to get out of control. The college needs to step up.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:52 PM

45. Unconscionable!

No place for such behavior. And a psych prof? 😳🤯

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #45)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:47 PM

52. It's unreal.

It really bothers me that he brought the little girl with him. Obviously his whole bit bugs me, including hearing other children were crying because of his ill behavior. He's lucky the police officer removed him before he carried through on his threat to the older lady.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #52)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:58 PM

53. I agree

Exceptionally irresponsible & disrespectful! 🤬

Thank you again for posting about this!

And I noticed on the petition site that this jerk has had numerous previous complaints.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:39 PM

27. Local news about this incident and the rally....

Rally in Delhi draws hundreds 'Honoring Black Lives'
The Daily Star (Oneonta, NY)
By Sarah Eames Staff Writer Jun 8, 2020

Link: https://www.thedailystar.com/news/local_news/rally-in-delhi-draws-hundreds-honoring-black-lives/article_5f3f7b9e-5ad1-582f-b4c4-d6da8e30b302.html

(snips)
Several demonstrators confronted a counter-protestor, a MAGA hat-wearing white man toting a poster claiming “Black Lives Matter causes more deaths” and challenging protesters to “convince me I’m wrong.” The man, who refused to identify himself, threatened to hit Gilbertsville resident Diana Degarmo in a confrontation de-escalated by other demonstrators. “Some woman grabbed his sign and he thought it was me, so he threatened to hit me,” she said.

The altercation transpired in front of Xavier Temple, a 9-year-old black Delhi resident who cried in fear. Fellow Delhi resident Will Kleisner immediately knelt beside Xavier, comforting him and assuring him that there were more good people present than bad.

“I wanted to share with my friend why we’re all here and why people like that aren’t going to be around too much longer,” Kleisner said. “Kids like him and kids like me are here to stop that kind of ignorance and hatred and make the world a better place for my kids, for his kids, for his generation, for my little brother.”

Xavier’s mother, Trista, said the incident illustrated the importance of bringing her son and his sister, 7-year-old Phoenix, to such demonstrations.


I have not yet found a video of this incident but here's a photo from the petition and another from the news article:





Petition signed and good luck with this effort, H2O Man......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:45 PM

28. Thank you!

Sarah is a very good reporter. I have a high opinion of her. We sent her a link to this OP/thread!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

46. You're welcome. This was odd....

I went to Binghamton's web site to see if there was anything there on this incident. Did a search for his name with no result. Next, I found a page on the Psychology Dept. and he's not in the faculty list. What could be wrong?

Then, I finally figured it out. He actually works at SUNY-Delhi, not Binghamton. You may want to fix that in the fourth paragraph.

There's no statement I could find on SUNY-Delhi's web site about any rally controversy but that will take some time to appear. Organization are usually very fast on publishing boilerplate bullshit about racial equality after an incident.

Sorry 'bout my out-sized sense of curiosity, a result of my profession and hobbies, LOL.

Please keep us posted on any action you see taken.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

48. Yikes!

I fixed that. Not sure how "binghamton" got in there!

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:48 PM

30. The kid looks embarrassed

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:28 PM

41. I feel bad for the young girl. Arms crossed, downcast eyes.

Seem to me her psych dad/grandpa should have picked up on that. She clearly is shamed/embarrassed and doesn't want to be there.

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Response to yonder (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

49. Pretty confident he filters everything through his own wants.

"She's delighted to be here!"
"No, daddy, I hate this."
"Ha ha, kids, amirite? She's so happy to be here she can't think straight! Maybe I should microwave her puppy when we get home!"
"No, daddy, no!!"
"THEN SMILE MORE, YOU LITTLE $#@%&."

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Response to Grokenstein (Reply #49)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:12 AM

55. Yes!

Very well done!

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Response to yonder (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:13 AM

56. Exactly!

He was using her as a prop.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #56)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 07:32 PM

85. The day will come

when he'll be old and in failing health, and he'll sit alone wondering why she never calls or visits. And she'll be elsewhere, happy and well rid of his ignorant, racist ass.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:19 AM

61. "Convince me I'm wrong!"

Why don't you convince me, convince us, that the rest of your sign, and the "thinking" behind it, aren't pure horseshit.

You can't do it, not because we won't hear, but because having an open mind means it's a sieve, not a garbage chute.

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Response to JHB (Reply #61)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:54 AM

65. Agree. What a stupid sign.

Would be interesting to hear his response if one demanded he supply stats with sources to support his claim.

Sounds like Limbaugh bullshit to me......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #27)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 07:24 PM

84. The Little girl with him is obviously stressed and embarrassed. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #84)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 07:44 PM

86. She probably would rather be with the ladies on the sidewalk.

KY..........

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:52 PM

31. Signed and tweeted.



Dennis Donovan @jackandloganinc

This man was aggressively confronting protesters at a BLM rally in Delhi, NY.

He's a psych professor at SUNY Delhi.

SUNY Delhi : Professor Cormier is Punished for his unjust behavior - Sign the Petition!
http://chng.it/YmsfcXk9 via @Change
Sign the Petition
Professor Cormier Should Be Reviewed By Delhi Administrators for his lewd comments


8:49 PM - Jun 9, 2020


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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:14 AM

57. Thank you!

Much appreciated!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:54 PM

32. Happy to help. Signed.

I'm sending an email, as well.

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Response to Alex4Martinez (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:16 AM

58. Great!

Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:05 PM

34. Done K&R

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:16 AM

59. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:06 PM

35. Signed. I've done a ton of work at SUNY-Binghamton

And SUNY-Oneonta. Love that area.

Do not love this story however. His daughter looks miserable in that pic.

That's for bringing it to our attention.

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Response to JDC (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:18 AM

60. Thank you!

I'm tempted to call the county's Department of Social Services regarding bringing a child to where he threatened to start a fight.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:12 PM

36. Done - that poor little girl!

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Response to NBachers (Reply #36)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:20 AM

62. Thank you!

What a horrible experience for her! I know that some of the people there were talking to her, being kind. But she was upset by the freak's behavior.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:12 PM

37. Done. That little girl looks embarrassed and ashamed.

He should be ashamed of himself for bringing her there when she is so clearly uncomfortable.

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Response to ms liberty (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:22 AM

64. Thanks!

What type of man exposes a little child to that? It is so wrong. It is so disturbing.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:19 PM

39. ⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:24 PM

40. Largest county is St Lawrence county. Second largest is Suffolk.

a few others are also bigger.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:50 PM

51. Okay ......

5th largest. But it is #1 in ignorance among its poulation.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:30 PM

42. Done.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #42)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:47 AM

70. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:31 PM

43. Signed. It's shocking that this man is a supposed educator!

And that poor little girl he dragged along for his hate spree...

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:53 AM

72. Thank you!

First, how the heck are you?

Just a terrible experience for that little girl. It was upsetting to a lot of other children around her age. Can you imagine how horrible it will be for her if some of her classmates witnessed her father being a fucking jackass?

I have, by no coincidence, some good connections at the college. It turns out this shithead has a series of complaints against him. I've heard that all but one of his co-workers want him fired.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:32 PM

44. Signed

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Response to Hekate (Reply #44)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:56 AM

73. Thanks, Buddy!

How's it going your way? I've been focused on working in my garden, trying to avoid the news for at least a couple of hours a day.My dog died a couple weeks ago, so it's been pretty lonely here.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:23 PM

47. Done!

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Response to denvine (Reply #47)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:56 AM

74. Thank you!

Much appreciated, Friend!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:10 AM

54. A psych professor doing this?? Fire his ass and blacklist him!

Signed!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #54)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:57 AM

75. Right.

We don't need a nazi in that position.

Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:20 AM

63. Signed, shared and emailed (nt)

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Response to Shiv (Reply #63)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:58 AM

76. Thanks, Shiv!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:08 AM

66. Thank you. I signed. I was there but missed this. For the record though the crowd was WAY OVER 200

Newspaper coverage linked to above estimated over 700 attendees. I didn't have a great vantage point but I was counting people in my sector and projecting an estimate from that and felt confident that there were well over 500 people present. I only quibble on this point because it was so fucking gratifying to see so many mostly white foll rally for Black Lives Matter in rural upstate New York!

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #66)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:50 AM

71. Wow!

If I knew you were going, I would have rode along with my son and his lady friend! If the college doesn't take action, I'm confident that there will be another rally in Delhi soon, perhaps at the college. I'd love to meet you!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #71)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:29 PM

77. Same here H2O Man

It will be both a treat and honor to actually meet you. You are probably right about that possible follow up rally, so that's a real possibility. My lady friend informs me that there is going to be a Black Lives Rally in West Shokan near us on Sunday; June 21st from 2 to 4 pm in Davis Park off route 28A that we are planning to attend. Don't know how far that is from you but that is another possibility. We hung back at the outskirts of the Delhi Rally last time, where it was easier to maintain social distancing, and will probably do the same next time. We should be able to make this happen one way or another!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 02:14 PM

78. Done.

Retweeted to my 3k + followers too

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Response to sellitman (Reply #78)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 02:33 PM

79. Great!

Thank you very much!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 03:59 PM

80. Signed

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #80)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:43 PM

81. Thank you!

I would have been more timely in thanking you, but a storm took my internet & phone out.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:55 PM

82. Signed, shared

and kicked!

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #82)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:40 PM

83. Thank you!

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