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H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:50 PM Jun 2020

Please Help!

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:28 PM - Edit history (1)

On Saturday, June 6, there was a Black Lives Matter rally in Delihi, N.Y. Delhi is the seat of Delaware County, and the only town in the state's largest county to have a college. The rally was attended by over 200 people, and was orderly and peaceful.

However, during the rally, a men wearing a MAGA hat and carrying an offensive sign approached the rally. He was accompanied by a young girl, who appeared to be a grade school student. Almost immediately, this man was aggressively confronting the smallest black teenager he could find.

A group of older women got between the man and the teenager. They attempted to reason with him, which only resulted in his becoming enraged. He actually threatened to punch one old lady. This was clearly upsetting to his daughter (or granddaughter), and other children attending the rally.

Luckily for this fellow, a Delhi police officer intervened and removed him from the rally. When two newspaper reporters asked him his name, he refused to answer. However, some people at the rally recognized him. His name is Chris Cormier, who teaches introductory psychology at SUNY-Delhi.

There is a grass roots' effort to get the college's administration to evaluate Mr. Cormier's actions. This is not about free speech, bu rather about the synergy of hate speech and physical threats. The state's colleges and universities should not employ such a man.

Below is a petition from change.org asking the college to take action:
https://www.change.org/p/suny-delhi-professor-cormier-is-punished-for-his-unjust-behavior?recruiter=1113947083&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_petition&recruited_by_id=74026130-aa75-11ea-89a7-711bf497498c

SUNY-Delhi's president is George Spielman, who can be reached at 607-746-4090, or by e-mail at president@delhi.edu .Please consider signing the petition, and contacting the college's president.

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Please Help! (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2020 OP
This dude is a psych professor? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
Right? H2O Man Jun 2020 #6
More like a psycho professor nt Lord Ludd Jun 2020 #33
Crazy teaching crazy. Awesome. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #67
I learned late H2O Man Jun 2020 #68
Who better to run RW psyops? Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #38
Done! cp Jun 2020 #2
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #7
Done. panader0 Jun 2020 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #8
He teaches psychology yet he apparently madaboutharry Jun 2020 #4
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #9
i have proposed a test for those who carry a badge. mopinko Jun 2020 #50
Signed and shared. nt bbernardini Jun 2020 #5
Thank you so much! H2O Man Jun 2020 #10
You must mean it's the largest county in area, not population? brush Jun 2020 #12
Right. H2O Man Jun 2020 #15
Done! Thank you, dear H20 Man! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #11
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #16
Where is the video of his actions? cwydro Jun 2020 #13
The video(s) H2O Man Jun 2020 #18
Signed RainCaster Jun 2020 #14
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2020 #20
A shield? central scrutinizer Jun 2020 #25
Right. H2O Man Jun 2020 #26
Probably his girlfriend. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #69
Done K/R and Tweeted Lochloosa Jun 2020 #17
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #21
Signed! nt babylonsister Jun 2020 #19
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #22
Awww, and I you! babylonsister Jun 2020 #29
Signed SheltieLover Jun 2020 #23
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #24
Unconscionable! SheltieLover Jun 2020 #45
It's unreal. H2O Man Jun 2020 #52
I agree SheltieLover Jun 2020 #53
Local news about this incident and the rally.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #27
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #28
You're welcome. This was odd.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #46
Yikes! H2O Man Jun 2020 #48
The kid looks embarrassed RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #30
I feel bad for the young girl. Arms crossed, downcast eyes. yonder Jun 2020 #41
Pretty confident he filters everything through his own wants. Grokenstein Jun 2020 #49
Yes! H2O Man Jun 2020 #55
Exactly! H2O Man Jun 2020 #56
The day will come Dagstead Bumwood Jun 2020 #85
"Convince me I'm wrong!" JHB Jun 2020 #61
Agree. What a stupid sign. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #65
The Little girl with him is obviously stressed and embarrassed. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #84
She probably would rather be with the ladies on the sidewalk. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #86
Signed and tweeted. Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #31
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #57
Happy to help. Signed. Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #32
Great! H2O Man Jun 2020 #58
Done K&R Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #34
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #59
Signed. I've done a ton of work at SUNY-Binghamton JDC Jun 2020 #35
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #60
Done - that poor little girl! NBachers Jun 2020 #36
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #62
Done. That little girl looks embarrassed and ashamed. ms liberty Jun 2020 #37
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #64
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Jun 2020 #39
Largest county is St Lawrence county. Second largest is Suffolk. Lucky Luciano Jun 2020 #40
Okay ...... H2O Man Jun 2020 #51
Done. Duppers Jun 2020 #42
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2020 #70
Signed. It's shocking that this man is a supposed educator! scarletwoman Jun 2020 #43
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #72
Signed Hekate Jun 2020 #44
Thanks, Buddy! H2O Man Jun 2020 #73
Done! denvine Jun 2020 #47
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #74
A psych professor doing this?? Fire his ass and blacklist him! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2020 #54
Right. H2O Man Jun 2020 #75
Signed, shared and emailed (nt) Shiv Jun 2020 #63
Thanks, Shiv! H2O Man Jun 2020 #76
Thank you. I signed. I was there but missed this. For the record though the crowd was WAY OVER 200 Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #66
Wow! H2O Man Jun 2020 #71
Same here H2O Man Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #77
Done. sellitman Jun 2020 #78
Great! H2O Man Jun 2020 #79
Signed Faux pas Jun 2020 #80
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #81
Signed, shared Mike 03 Jun 2020 #82
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2020 #83

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
68. I learned late
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jun 2020

last night that he has a series of complaints against him. Shocking, I know, he seemed so "normal."

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
9. Thanks!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jun 2020

He threatened to punch an old lady. What type of coward does that? The police officer did the right thing.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
50. i have proposed a test for those who carry a badge.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jun 2020

watch them get cussed out by a pissed off little old lady.
if they flinch, strip them of their badge.
they are cowards.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
10. Thank you so much!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jun 2020

I really appreciate that you are sharing this. I've posted it on a few facebook groups. And the biggest internet boxing site is carrying it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Where is the video of his actions?
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:04 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe the link isn't working fully for me. I just see the article.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
18. The video(s)
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jun 2020

are on facebook sites, and I believe that two area newspapers have them on their web sites. These papers are The Daily Star (Oneonta) and The Reporter (Walton).

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
20. Thank you.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jun 2020

It's not clear if it was his daughter or granddaughter. What type of fool brings a child when they are trying to start a fight? To see him threaten an old lady? A cowardly fool!

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
24. Thank you!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jun 2020

The guy was out of control. And that easily could have caused other things to get out of control. The college needs to step up.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
52. It's unreal.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jun 2020

It really bothers me that he brought the little girl with him. Obviously his whole bit bugs me, including hearing other children were crying because of his ill behavior. He's lucky the police officer removed him before he carried through on his threat to the older lady.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
53. I agree
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jun 2020

Exceptionally irresponsible & disrespectful! 🤬

Thank you again for posting about this!

And I noticed on the petition site that this jerk has had numerous previous complaints.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
27. Local news about this incident and the rally....
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jun 2020
Rally in Delhi draws hundreds 'Honoring Black Lives'
The Daily Star (Oneonta, NY)
By Sarah Eames Staff Writer Jun 8, 2020

Link: https://www.thedailystar.com/news/local_news/rally-in-delhi-draws-hundreds-honoring-black-lives/article_5f3f7b9e-5ad1-582f-b4c4-d6da8e30b302.html

(snips)
Several demonstrators confronted a counter-protestor, a MAGA hat-wearing white man toting a poster claiming “Black Lives Matter causes more deaths” and challenging protesters to “convince me I’m wrong.” The man, who refused to identify himself, threatened to hit Gilbertsville resident Diana Degarmo in a confrontation de-escalated by other demonstrators. “Some woman grabbed his sign and he thought it was me, so he threatened to hit me,” she said.

The altercation transpired in front of Xavier Temple, a 9-year-old black Delhi resident who cried in fear. Fellow Delhi resident Will Kleisner immediately knelt beside Xavier, comforting him and assuring him that there were more good people present than bad.

“I wanted to share with my friend why we’re all here and why people like that aren’t going to be around too much longer,” Kleisner said. “Kids like him and kids like me are here to stop that kind of ignorance and hatred and make the world a better place for my kids, for his kids, for his generation, for my little brother.”

Xavier’s mother, Trista, said the incident illustrated the importance of bringing her son and his sister, 7-year-old Phoenix, to such demonstrations.


I have not yet found a video of this incident but here's a photo from the petition and another from the news article:





Petition signed and good luck with this effort, H2O Man......

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
28. Thank you!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jun 2020

Sarah is a very good reporter. I have a high opinion of her. We sent her a link to this OP/thread!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
46. You're welcome. This was odd....
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jun 2020

I went to Binghamton's web site to see if there was anything there on this incident. Did a search for his name with no result. Next, I found a page on the Psychology Dept. and he's not in the faculty list. What could be wrong?

Then, I finally figured it out. He actually works at SUNY-Delhi, not Binghamton. You may want to fix that in the fourth paragraph.

There's no statement I could find on SUNY-Delhi's web site about any rally controversy but that will take some time to appear. Organization are usually very fast on publishing boilerplate bullshit about racial equality after an incident.

Sorry 'bout my out-sized sense of curiosity, a result of my profession and hobbies, LOL.

Please keep us posted on any action you see taken.......

yonder

(9,631 posts)
41. I feel bad for the young girl. Arms crossed, downcast eyes.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jun 2020

Seem to me her psych dad/grandpa should have picked up on that. She clearly is shamed/embarrassed and doesn't want to be there.

Grokenstein

(5,707 posts)
49. Pretty confident he filters everything through his own wants.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jun 2020

"She's delighted to be here!"
"No, daddy, I hate this."
"Ha ha, kids, amirite? She's so happy to be here she can't think straight! Maybe I should microwave her puppy when we get home!"
"No, daddy, no!!"
"THEN SMILE MORE, YOU LITTLE $#@%&."

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,528 posts)
85. The day will come
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jun 2020

when he'll be old and in failing health, and he'll sit alone wondering why she never calls or visits. And she'll be elsewhere, happy and well rid of his ignorant, racist ass.

JHB

(37,133 posts)
61. "Convince me I'm wrong!"
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jun 2020

Why don't you convince me, convince us, that the rest of your sign, and the "thinking" behind it, aren't pure horseshit.

You can't do it, not because we won't hear, but because having an open mind means it's a sieve, not a garbage chute.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
65. Agree. What a stupid sign.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jun 2020

Would be interesting to hear his response if one demanded he supply stats with sources to support his claim.

Sounds like Limbaugh bullshit to me......

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
31. Signed and tweeted.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jun 2020


Dennis Donovan @jackandloganinc

This man was aggressively confronting protesters at a BLM rally in Delhi, NY.

He's a psych professor at SUNY Delhi.

SUNY Delhi : Professor Cormier is Punished for his unjust behavior - Sign the Petition!

http://chng.it/YmsfcXk9 via @Change
Sign the Petition
Professor Cormier Should Be Reviewed By Delhi Administrators for his lewd comments


8:49 PM - Jun 9, 2020


JDC

(10,084 posts)
35. Signed. I've done a ton of work at SUNY-Binghamton
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jun 2020

And SUNY-Oneonta. Love that area.

Do not love this story however. His daughter looks miserable in that pic.

That's for bringing it to our attention.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
60. Thank you!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jun 2020

I'm tempted to call the county's Department of Social Services regarding bringing a child to where he threatened to start a fight.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
62. Thank you!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jun 2020

What a horrible experience for her! I know that some of the people there were talking to her, being kind. But she was upset by the freak's behavior.

ms liberty

(8,479 posts)
37. Done. That little girl looks embarrassed and ashamed.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jun 2020

He should be ashamed of himself for bringing her there when she is so clearly uncomfortable.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
43. Signed. It's shocking that this man is a supposed educator!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jun 2020

And that poor little girl he dragged along for his hate spree...

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
72. Thank you!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

First, how the heck are you?

Just a terrible experience for that little girl. It was upsetting to a lot of other children around her age. Can you imagine how horrible it will be for her if some of her classmates witnessed her father being a fucking jackass?

I have, by no coincidence, some good connections at the college. It turns out this shithead has a series of complaints against him. I've heard that all but one of his co-workers want him fired.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
73. Thanks, Buddy!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jun 2020

How's it going your way? I've been focused on working in my garden, trying to avoid the news for at least a couple of hours a day.My dog died a couple weeks ago, so it's been pretty lonely here.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
66. Thank you. I signed. I was there but missed this. For the record though the crowd was WAY OVER 200
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Jun 2020

Newspaper coverage linked to above estimated over 700 attendees. I didn't have a great vantage point but I was counting people in my sector and projecting an estimate from that and felt confident that there were well over 500 people present. I only quibble on this point because it was so fucking gratifying to see so many mostly white foll rally for Black Lives Matter in rural upstate New York!

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
71. Wow!
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jun 2020

If I knew you were going, I would have rode along with my son and his lady friend! If the college doesn't take action, I'm confident that there will be another rally in Delhi soon, perhaps at the college. I'd love to meet you!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
77. Same here H2O Man
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020

It will be both a treat and honor to actually meet you. You are probably right about that possible follow up rally, so that's a real possibility. My lady friend informs me that there is going to be a Black Lives Rally in West Shokan near us on Sunday; June 21st from 2 to 4 pm in Davis Park off route 28A that we are planning to attend. Don't know how far that is from you but that is another possibility. We hung back at the outskirts of the Delhi Rally last time, where it was easier to maintain social distancing, and will probably do the same next time. We should be able to make this happen one way or another!

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
81. Thank you!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

I would have been more timely in thanking you, but a storm took my internet & phone out.

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