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The Mississippi state flag: is it headed for the trash bin soon? (Original Post) Goodheart Jun 2020 OP
sure hope so RT Atlanta Jun 2020 #1
It damn well should PJMcK Jun 2020 #2
A song . . . . . . Hoyt Jun 2020 #3
That's not bad! Goodheart Jun 2020 #4
Right. On! Hoyt!! Woot Wawannabe Jun 2020 #7
Governor says: collect signatures TreadSoftly Jun 2020 #5
Can't be time, yet... SheltieLover Jun 2020 #6
When Ole Miss Football and Basketball Players Start Questioning the Confederate Flag... Stallion Jun 2020 #8
The black population of the south is still pretty large. brush Jun 2020 #9
In 1862, my g-g-grandfather was drafted into the 11th Mississippi Infantry. VOX Jun 2020 #10
B the end of the war, your ancestor's regiment mustered 64 men Kaleva Jun 2020 #11

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
1. sure hope so
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:11 AM
Jun 2020

GA got rid of their stars and bars 15ish years ago - those fucking stars and bars belong in a museum (at best).

TreadSoftly

(219 posts)
5. Governor says: collect signatures
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:53 AM
Jun 2020

i.e. pound sand because a flag-change measure failed in 2001 so no sense to life any fingers.

This was published just yesterday re governor:
[link:https://www.wlox.com/2020/06/08/gov-reeves-says-mississippians-should-decide-change-flag-not-him/|]

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
8. When Ole Miss Football and Basketball Players Start Questioning the Confederate Flag...
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 01:12 AM
Jun 2020

...then you watch how many Ole Miss supporters starting raising their voices to protect recruiting great black athletes

I've always been astonished how the SEC in the cradle of the Confederacy is so appealing to black athletes

VOX

(22,976 posts)
10. In 1862, my g-g-grandfather was drafted into the 11th Mississippi Infantry.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 05:43 AM
Jun 2020

Zachariah DeHay was a poor farmer in the wrong place in the wrong time. He didn’t enlist, wasn’t for secession or slavery. But he was caught up in the first American conscription act.

The 11th Mississippi was attached to Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia. The unit was involved in most of the big battles, including Pickett’s desperate advance at Gettysburg. The 11th made it to the stone wall, but in so doing:
Combatants – 393
Killed in action/died of wounds – 110
Wounded/wounded captured – 193
Captured unwounded – 37
Non-casualty – 53

My g-g-grandfather was one of the lucky 53, only to come down with smallpox, and he survived that as well. He made an attempt to “skedaddle” while recovering, but was caught and returned to his unit (by this time, the South was short on manpower, so he dodged the usual deserter’s fate). He was finally captured on April 2, 1865, and imprisoned for awhile before taking a loyalty oath and released. Back in Mississippi, he and his wife packed up what little they had and migrated to West Texas.

The ancestor who connects me was his daughter born in Texas *after* the war. I’m only here because of Zach’s extraordinary luck. Based upon what I’ve gleaned over time, Old Zach, sick to death (almost literally) and dispossessed by the Southern Confederacy, would likely be among the first to tear down that obscenity of a flag.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
11. B the end of the war, your ancestor's regiment mustered 64 men
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 05:57 AM
Jun 2020

April 2, 1865

"Breakthrough and Collapse at Petersburg
The regiment was flanked on both sides and retreated to Hatcher’s Run, which was unfordable due to heavy rains. Lieutenant Colonel Shannon and most of the regiment were forced to surrender, although some escaped by swimming the dangerously swollen waters. Color bearer Frank Hope tore the colors to pieces and threw the staff into the stream."

https://civilwarintheeast.com/confederate-regiments/mississippi/11th-mississippi-infantry-regiment/

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