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brettdale

(12,377 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:04 AM May 2020

naming and shaming on twitter

So a racist white woman who was filmed in Central park, calling the
police on An African American man, she falsely told the police that the
man was threatening her.

Disgusting, repugnant behavior.

People on twitter are now naming and shaming her, and posting
personal details, eg: work place/ etc etc.

I'm in two minds about this, what she did was horrible, but naming and
shaming her on twitter, and posting private information on social media????

What are people's thoughts?

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naming and shaming on twitter (Original Post) brettdale May 2020 OP
Well she lost her dog and looks like she will lose her DURHAM D May 2020 #1
If you don't want to be identified by the public, don't be a racist asshole in public. dalton99a May 2020 #2
She could have gotten I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #3
White people have instilled a fear with POC they don't have to follow the same rules as the minority LizBeth May 2020 #4
We have to fight back somehow. cayugafalls May 2020 #5
she deserves every bit of grief she receives from this NRaleighLiberal May 2020 #6
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public park. nt. Mariana May 2020 #7
I think it is fine to identify her name, and her affiliations like employer or social groups RockRaven May 2020 #8
Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #9
Growing up in an extremely disfunctional county in a red state Jamastiene May 2020 #10
I am so sorry for your pain. I agree with your thoughts 1000%. Nevilledog May 2020 #13
... there are no words. I wish you could get away and am so sorry you have to live there renate May 2020 #14
Earlier I was hoping this would happen to her. BigmanPigman May 2020 #11
The better question is, why haven't these idiots learned ecstatic May 2020 #12
Bet now she wishes she'd just apologized to him and put the dog on a leash. roamer65 May 2020 #15
These imbeciles are finally being called out for what they do. I am not a technophile. Squinch May 2020 #16
you need to punch Nazis Nature Man May 2020 #17
It works both ways though. People who have done absolutely nothing wrong and, in fact, Vinca May 2020 #18
For this example, Hav May 2020 #19
I think I'll keep my thoughts to myself about your post but leave you with the first tweets I saw lunasun May 2020 #20

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
1. Well she lost her dog and looks like she will lose her
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:09 AM
May 2020

employment for trying to get a black man killed by the police. Glad social media is naming and shaming her.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
3. She could have gotten
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:12 AM
May 2020

The black guy killed with her lies.
And she abused her dog.
Worked in finance. That's all I need to know about this racist dog abuser Karen. Fuck her!

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. White people have instilled a fear with POC they don't have to follow the same rules as the minority
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:14 AM
May 2020

To the point of getting away with murder.

Shame and humiliation? Not my brand, and yet these white people, especially white women have no issue time and again throwing it at minorities. So, maybe, this will have people think twice. Does it just have people repress their racism, sure. I am good with that. Lets go back to that. because this racism out loud gets people killed.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
5. We have to fight back somehow.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:18 AM
May 2020

What else do you suggest?

I am of the mind that we live in a world where there is a possibility of someone videoing you at any moment when you are in public.

You should act any way you feel comfortable with and accept the consequences if your actions result in condemnation or ridicule. I guess I don't really like the fact that we should fear being taken out of context or ridiculed for no reason, but it is a fact that it is happening and there is really nothing we can do to slow the roll.

I like my wife's take on things like this, she prefers to walk away and make no comments when in public situations.

In the case of this lady with the dog, the sane thing to do would have been to leash her dog and move on, she chose to be confrontational and thus ended up with consequences that she probably did not foresee. It happens. People seldom think about what might happen if they blow up and act out in anger.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
8. I think it is fine to identify her name, and her affiliations like employer or social groups
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:33 AM
May 2020

such as religious congregation or athletic club or book club. Those people need to know who they are dealing with, and everyone else deserves to know that those groups choose to affiliate with that kind of person.

I would draw the line at enabling or encouraging people to harass her at home by publishing her phone number or address, or bringing minors/children into the conversation. If people are going to be creeps like that, let them do all that sleazy legwork themselves first. No need to assist them.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
10. Growing up in an extremely disfunctional county in a red state
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:38 AM
May 2020

horrible things, above and beyond, happened to me. I always wished I could let the whole world see how these assholes where I live are. This was before Matthew Shepherd. Sure, what happened to me, I lived, but it has done a lifetime of lasting damage to me that may keep me from ever being able to be even hugged again in my lifetime. I cannot stand that much even now.

There were no gay organizations in NC back then. There were only a couple through the mental health community in the entire state and both were religious ones, both Christian. After being raped in the name of god for being a lesbian, Christian organizations were the LAST group of people I wanted to fucking talk to. Conversion, or reparation, therapy was the last fucking thing I needed, but guess how things went. Even my own mother was behind me being raped. The police told me to go to church. No rape kit for me. Richmond County Mental Health, as it was called back then, told me to "Get right with God." No help there either. I got absolutely nothing but hate from EVERYONE around back then and for the next several years after it happened. I mean, NO ONE, was on my side at all, not even to so much as say, no, I should not be forced to have sex with men until I learned to shut up and just take what they were trying to force on me, all for their precious religion.

I have since learned not all Christians are right wing homophobic pro-rape pieces of shit, but it took years of knock down drag out virtual fights, debates on DU, yes, DU, to learn that. DU is what worked in place of therapy for me, but it did not happen until more than 12 years after being raped. Before that, all I got was hatred.

The internet, in other words, saved me from a lifetime of nothing but hatred thrown at me from locals in this small town where poverty traps me to this day. The internet and knowing there are people in this world who are not hatemongers is the best thing that ever happened to me.

So, when I hear about people doing horrid shit to someone, because they are a minority, and prejudiced people will always believe the worst about any minority and prejudiced people will always try to hurt minorities, I have zero sympathy if they get doxxed. More power to the doxxers, imo. More power to them. Right down to making sure their employers know what they did and maybe even boycotts of their employers until their employers fire their asses. They deserve to have it bounced right back to them like rubber and glue, until they learn to stop being bigots.

Living in a small town and not being able to get away from bigotry and everyone in town knowing I am gay and attacking me repeatedly, whether physical or ganging up on me in public, to stand around and berate and belittle me, JUST for being gay, has taught me that they will ALWAYS do that when they know they are doing it unopposed. And for every bit of that kind of stuff they do in public, what they do in private, hidden, is even WORSE.

Even going to the grocery store or just going out to do errands gets more of I deserve to be raped until I submit to the love of god crap from them. These are the kinds of people I am surrounded by.

My life experiences dealing with bigots in this Bible Belt rural town who gang up on the one person who has no one on her side has taught me that when there is no sunlight to disinfect that kind of bigotry and when there is no one on your side because you are a minority and bigots get away with attacking you, it will continue until other people stand up to them. I could maybe defend myself from one person at a time, but most of my life has been groups of people ganging up on me. Entire rooms full of people ganging up on me.

If I could dox the people who have attacked me through the years, using their personal info too, yes, and get to see them take some heat for that, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Why? Part of it is revenge, but only a small part of it. The biggest part of it would be the protect myself from any more of them doing the kinds of horrible things that they have done and sometimes continue to try to do to me, through the years. Part of it is just plain old protection by shining a light on the kinds of things they do so that people who WILL stand up to them WILL stand up to them. When they see consequences for attacking and abusing minorities, it stops them.

Fuck the bigots. Dox the fucking hell out of them. It's the only way to make them stop acting on their bigotry and hurting people. Fuck the bigots. Dox them until they KNOW not to act that way any more. I wish it would happen more often.

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. ... there are no words. I wish you could get away and am so sorry you have to live there
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:02 AM
May 2020

It must be so grueling, so exhausting, so frightening, so lonely, so infuriating. I am so, so sorry for what you have been through and what you still have to go through. To be hurt so deeply, emotionally and physically, and to see the people who committed these crimes not even be remorseful... it’s horrific. My heart goes out to you.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
11. Earlier I was hoping this would happen to her.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:40 AM
May 2020

GOOD! Keep it up! She is a sick person who is cruel and dangerous. She abuses animals and is a lying racist who needs to be shamed for her behavior. I am sure she has been like this her whole life and no one has called her out on it until now. You don't get like this over night. She has harmed that poor dog on several occasions and lied about it. She has serious mental issues and needs a good therapist and a visit to the nearest jail without a mask. She is lucky in my opinion. She deserves a lot worse.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
12. The better question is, why haven't these idiots learned
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:44 AM
May 2020

a lesson yet? Why is there still a never ending line of cops and random idiots who continue to do shit like this, even while aware that they're on camera?

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
16. These imbeciles are finally being called out for what they do. I am not a technophile.
Tue May 26, 2020, 06:41 AM
May 2020

I think there are as many bad consequences as good from the technology that has taken away any semblance of privacy we may once have had.

But this is definitely one of the good consequences of it.

She does this kind of shit? She needs to be stopped.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
18. It works both ways though. People who have done absolutely nothing wrong and, in fact,
Tue May 26, 2020, 06:50 AM
May 2020

have suffered greatly end up being "outed" on social media with names, addresses, etc. I'm thinking specifically of the Sandy Hook parents. It might seem justified now, but in the end it could be you next and not because you've done something as repugnant as this woman. Her penalty should be in the legal system, not the public arena. What she did was terrible, but it doesn't merit the death penalty and that's always in the cards when you get millions of people stirred up. We might be sane, but a good chunk of this country isn't.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
19. For this example,
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:27 AM
May 2020

I don't know about a better way than raising awareness both about an individual's behavior and making a statement towards others. It can get close to bullying, of course.

But in this instance, it's hard to feel sorry because thinking back 60 years, I think we all know how this would have ended without a trial and a jury. And as far as what could have happened with the police showing up to contain an AA "threatening" someone, we don't even have to go back these 60 years.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
20. I think I'll keep my thoughts to myself about your post but leave you with the first tweets I saw
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:25 AM
May 2020

I’m sure there are others that get the point across


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