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FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
Sat May 16, 2020, 06:59 AM May 2020

I am unaware of ANY vaccine produced that treated ANY Corona Virus ever...

We are talking, discussing, anticipating and being promised a vaccine soon for the COVID-19 corona virus...tRump Team saying by January..

I did a little research and can NOT find where there has ever been a vaccine for coronavirus...ever....Lots of ongoing clinical trails...no vaccine... COVID-19 our current lethal virus is in the Coronavirus Family Strain... so, that is why I went searching for any past related success for a vaccine...

If this is the case...WHY are we Not getting more clarification about the potential for a COVID-19 vaccine to actually be a FIRST ever Coronavirus vaccine? I

I really think way too much false hope for a vaccine by January is grossly misleading and inappropriate...More like manipulation...

Here is a link to one article I found.... 4-5 coronavirus affect humans..no vaccine yet...see list below.


https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/vaccines/coronavirus-vaccines?fbclid=IwAR2Yp2VRHV6NZXMDhhwakyujF8ZAuyvrQ_2m1FqRjRCjPq28oZ0j6C6RZy4


SNIP>

Coronaviruses without preventive vaccines are the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV), and the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19 disease in humans.

As of May 14, 2020, the U.S. FDA has not approved any preventive or therapeutic vaccines for use against the SARS, MERS, or SARS-CoV-2 coronaviruses. However, over 300 clinical studies are seeking participants to evaluate vaccine candidates.... END>

Then from the NIH Link:

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses


SNIP>
Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold. However, three new coronaviruses have emerged from animal reservoirs over the past two decades to cause serious and widespread illness and death.

There are hundreds of coronaviruses, most of which circulate among such animals as pigs, camels, bats and cats. Sometimes those viruses jump to humans—called a spillover event—and can cause disease. Four of the seven known coronaviruses that sicken people cause only mild to moderate disease. Three can cause more serious, even fatal, disease. SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV) emerged in November 2002 and caused severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). That virus disappeared by 2004. Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) is caused by the MERS coronavirus (MERS-CoV). Transmitted from an animal reservoir in camels, MERS was identified in September 2012 and continues to cause sporadic and localized outbreaks. The third novel coronavirus to emerge in this century is called SARS-CoV-2. It causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which emerged from China in December 2019 and was declared a global pandemic by the World Health Organization on March 11, 2020.

Building on previous research on SARS and MERS, NIAID scientists and grantees are well positioned to rapidly develop COVID-19 diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines. These projects include conducting basic research to understand how the virus infects cells and causes disease, and what interventions can prevent and stop the spread of disease.... END>

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I am unaware of ANY vaccine produced that treated ANY Corona Virus ever... (Original Post) FarPoint May 2020 OP
Even the annual flu vaccine isn't 100% effective. Throck May 2020 #1
I understand, I heard... FarPoint May 2020 #2
Ignore the man behind the curtain. Throck May 2020 #4
U.S. flu vaccine effectiveness by start year Celerity May 2020 #6
Yers...good information...but.... FarPoint May 2020 #10
I never implied they were the same, I just used the title in the article, but I did change it Celerity May 2020 #47
I realize that..good information... FarPoint May 2020 #50
hugz Celerity May 2020 #52
Celerity - it would be best if you change your title to say "U.S. Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness... erronis May 2020 #44
there is no coronavirus vaccine, and I just used the title in the article, but I will change it Celerity May 2020 #46
Thanks for the edit. I just saw the title on Wikipedia and understand what you meant. erronis May 2020 #56
I also assumed the URL was a dead giveaway (Influenza_vaccine#Effectiveness) Celerity May 2020 #59
Yeah, the early fall flu shots.. Maxheader May 2020 #7
Sorry Traildogbob May 2020 #29
Can't Find It Now, But... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #3
I think we as activist need to emphasize this concern... FarPoint May 2020 #5
The coronavirus mutates more slowly than the flu -- which means a vaccine will likely be effective Celerity May 2020 #9
Thanks! ProfessorGAC May 2020 #11
this following is a great article addressing the hysteria that was on here about mutations Celerity May 2020 #13
Good post. Thank you. N/t bluecollar2 May 2020 #19
yw Celerity May 2020 #21
I remember reading it, or something similar. tavernier May 2020 #30
Well...we have had corona viruses like the Acute Respiratory One since say 2000 FarPoint May 2020 #12
I thinks odds are pretty low for a vaccine any time soon, Trump, as usual is full of shit Celerity May 2020 #14
Exactly.... FarPoint May 2020 #16
The last 2 months before the election Biden is truly going to have to lay the hammer down Celerity May 2020 #18
I agree there... FarPoint May 2020 #20
assume he will lie about .. EVERYTHING, and in the worst possible way on the worst possible subjects Celerity May 2020 #23
I have seen Biden get furiously angry when his family is threatened, tavernier May 2020 #31
+100000 Celerity May 2020 #35
Some vaccines are simply deactivated virus. Aussie105 May 2020 #8
they are trying that type, and all other types as well Celerity May 2020 #15
FRONTLINE had very up-to-date info from scientists trying to develop a vaccine Hestia May 2020 #22
Ohhhh yes...I wanted to watch that... FarPoint May 2020 #24
This is what Trump does. Makes promises that has no science behind them. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #17
You should correct subject line to PREVENT. There ARE Veterinary Coronavirus vaccines hlthe2b May 2020 #25
Great information. Mike 03 May 2020 #42
THANK YOU. I was looking around for just this info -- I knew that vets had a few vaccines for Nay May 2020 #49
In his testimony, Dr. Bright confirmed there has never been a coronavirus vaccine. Native May 2020 #26
Excellent! FarPoint May 2020 #32
I have responded to you repeatedly. PLease correct your OP. Vaccines are NOT treatments. hlthe2b May 2020 #58
Never a HUMAN coronavirus vaccine. See my post upthread on veterinary vaccines for other coronavirus hlthe2b May 2020 #57
Putting Trump aside, if its not gonna happen why havent ANY doctors said so? oldsoftie May 2020 #27
Someone posted in this thread... FarPoint May 2020 #34
thank you oldsoftie May 2020 #55
Because ... never say never. Laelth May 2020 #36
Maybe it's time to investigate alternative treatments but that won't happen until big Pharma's in2herbs May 2020 #28
Too late. They Own Trump's Team. IMO it will have to be a group of Governors to push that forward. Ford_Prefect May 2020 #41
That's what I've been reading too Bettie May 2020 #33
No news about Remdesivir yet disndat May 2020 #45
The treatment aspect is where we should focus on something timely.. FarPoint May 2020 #51
Make no mistake about a promise from trump duforsure May 2020 #37
Why would there be? Warpy May 2020 #38
People keep saying "WHEN we get a vaccine..." but that should be: MrModerate May 2020 #39
I completely agree with that! FarPoint May 2020 #40
K & R Mrs. Overall May 2020 #43
The SARS vaccine never got past animal testing, it didn't work, then the money and virus went away Baclava May 2020 #48
Sars.. BGBD May 2020 #53
The fastest way to put this virus in check is monoclonal antibodies. roamer65 May 2020 #54

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
2. I understand, I heard...
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:07 AM
May 2020

tRump is promising a COVID-19 vaccine by January 2021...just AFTER the election....A Carnival Barker promise... If we never had a coronavirus vaccine over the years then this claim, soon, by January 2021 is total manipulation of the 10th degree. ...

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
10. Yers...good information...but....
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:22 AM
May 2020

Coronaviruses and COVID-19 are NOT Flu viruses....that makes it even more frightening.....Americans are placing FLU in the same category as COVID-19....they are not in the same group. This is NOT the FLU...

Celerity

(43,130 posts)
47. I never implied they were the same, I just used the title in the article, but I did change it
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:16 AM
May 2020

for clarity.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
50. I realize that..good information...
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:14 AM
May 2020

I addressed it because so many equate FLU and COVID-19 in same category....which is why we have such minimization of the lethality of COVID-19...

I just tend to jump up ...I'm a tense type these days....

erronis

(15,185 posts)
44. Celerity - it would be best if you change your title to say "U.S. Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness...
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:00 AM
May 2020

Many will read your post to think that this includes the coronavirus.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
56. Thanks for the edit. I just saw the title on Wikipedia and understand what you meant.
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:48 PM
May 2020

Thanks for you kind response, too.

Celerity

(43,130 posts)
59. I also assumed the URL was a dead giveaway (Influenza_vaccine#Effectiveness)
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:05 PM
May 2020



plus the post I replied to was about the flu vaccine

cheers

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
7. Yeah, the early fall flu shots..
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:16 AM
May 2020

Are supposed to suppress, not kill...from what the nurses

tell me.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
29. Sorry
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:15 AM
May 2020

But we have been screwing with nature so much the checks and balance of the rest of nature has had enough. We are one tiny link in the whole system. The one link that only consumes and generates so much destruction. Now the defense system, the earths immune system is rejecting the cancer that is hell bent of destroying the whole thing. We will be rejected, and nature will thrive when it rids is. Just another extinction and earth will keep on until a natural balance will be achieved. The planet does not need us, at all. Our arrogance will end our species. Part of Gods grand plan??????? Part of his experiment that needed tweaked??????

ProfessorGAC

(64,867 posts)
3. Can't Find It Now, But...
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:10 AM
May 2020

...I read that most coronaviruses mutate so fast they can't vaccinate against them.
They don't think this one mutates as fast.
I only looked a minute or two and couldn't find that thread here at DU.
So, perhaps there's still some hope.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
5. I think we as activist need to emphasize this concern...
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:15 AM
May 2020

False hope is a tool....Hope is fine but a manipulative time line for political election gains is unacceptable. People need the truth which is constantly being snuffed out by this administration...Opening up the streets of America now while the COVID-19 has not been mitigated, contained and has not even peeked is a mass murder essentially...We can't even test, quarantine and retest...barely have PPE's and now, no masks required...I am overwhelmed with disgust.

Celerity

(43,130 posts)
13. this following is a great article addressing the hysteria that was on here about mutations
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:31 AM
May 2020

I made it an OP and so few read it, whilst PANIC PANIC! bullshit alarmist posts (often unsourced or sourced from dodgy sites) were getting 50-100 recs and thousands of views.


Beware Overblown Claims of Coronavirus Strains

The Problem With Stories About Dangerous Coronavirus Mutations

There’s no clear evidence that the pandemic virus has evolved into significantly different forms—and there probably won’t be for months.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/coronavirus-strains-transmissible/611239/



As if the pandemic weren’t bad enough, on April 30, a team led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory released a paper that purportedly described “the emergence of a more transmissible form” of the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. This new form, the team wrote, “began spreading in Europe in early February.” Whenever it appeared in a new place, including the U.S., it rapidly rose to dominance. Its success, the team suggested, is likely due to a single mutation, which is now “of urgent concern.” The paper has not yet been formally published or reviewed by other scientists. But on May 5, the Los Angeles Times wrote about it, claiming that “a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than [the] original.” That story quickly went … well … viral.

But “the conclusions are overblown,” says Lisa Gralinski of the University of North Carolina, who is one of the few scientists in the world who specializes in coronaviruses. “To say that you’ve revealed the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 without ever actually testing it isn’t the type of thing that makes me feel comfortable as a scientist.” She and other virologists I’ve spoken with who were not involved in the Los Alamos research agree that the paper’s claims are plausible, but not justified by the evidence it presents. More important, they’re not convinced different strains of the coronavirus exist at all.

“We have evidence for one strain,” says Brian Wasik at Cornell University. “I would say there’s just one,” says Nathan Grubaugh at Yale School of Medicine. “I think the majority of people studying [coronavirus genetics] wouldn’t recognize more than one strain right now,” says Charlotte Houldcroft at the University of Cambridge. Everyone else might be reasonably puzzled, given that news stories have repeatedly claimed there are two, or three, or even eight strains. This is yet another case of confusion in a crisis that seems riddled with them. Here’s how to make sense of it. Whenever a virus infects a host, it makes new copies of itself, and it starts by duplicating its genes. But this process is sloppy, and the duplicates end up with errors. These are called mutations—they’re the genetic equivalent of typos. In comic books and other science fiction, mutations are always dramatic and consequential. In the real world, they’re a normal and usually mundane part of virology. Viruses naturally and gradually accumulate mutations as they spread.

As an epidemic progresses, the virus family tree grows new branches and twigs—new lineages that are characterized by differing sets of mutations. But a new lineage doesn’t automatically count as a new strain. That term is usually reserved for a lineage that differs from its fellow viruses in significant ways. It might vary in how easily it spreads (transmissibility), its ability to cause disease (virulence), whether it is recognized by the immune system in the same way (antigenicity), or how vulnerable it is to medications (resistance). Some mutations affect these properties. Most do not, and are either silent or cosmetic. “Not every mutation creates a different strain,” says Grubaugh. (Think about dog breeds as equivalents of strains: A corgi is clearly different from a Great Dane, but a black-haired corgi is functionally the same as a brown-haired one, and wouldn’t count as a separate breed.)

snip

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
30. I remember reading it, or something similar.
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:28 AM
May 2020

Zombie apocalypse threads tend to attract more interest in today’s world.

Thanks for the reprint.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
12. Well...we have had corona viruses like the Acute Respiratory One since say 2000
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:26 AM
May 2020

No vaccine yet....so, the data we are getting from COVID-19 is still in it's infancy....tRump making a promise for a vaccine by January 2021 is total BS.

If we can't make a coronavirus vaccine in 20 years as noted above...this information needs to be emphasized...false hope is criminal...Best bet, is treatment therapies as what we have with HIV...

I would soooo like PBS to cover this topic...educate the masses...

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
16. Exactly....
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:34 AM
May 2020

So, we need to be ready to set the record straight....He will try and sell this miracle to voters...

Celerity

(43,130 posts)
18. The last 2 months before the election Biden is truly going to have to lay the hammer down
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:38 AM
May 2020

on Trump's skull. I know Biden hates to attack people, but he so has to expose Trump for the ultra conman of death that he is.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
20. I agree there...
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:42 AM
May 2020

Going and exposing him too early would be a mistake...last lap is good. tRump lies...I struggle at times to use my imagination to think of what he, tRump will lie about next and sell it successfully...I sure hope the Team Biden is ready for this lie ...the false hope of a COVID-19 virus by January 2021..since, we never have had a coronavirus vaccine ...ever...yet.


" As of May 14, 2020, the U.S. FDA has not approved any preventive or therapeutic vaccines for use against the SARS, MERS, or SARS-CoV-2 coronaviruses. However, over 300 clinical studies are seeking participants to evaluate vaccine candidates.."

Celerity

(43,130 posts)
23. assume he will lie about .. EVERYTHING, and in the worst possible way on the worst possible subjects
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:45 AM
May 2020

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
31. I have seen Biden get furiously angry when his family is threatened,
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:33 AM
May 2020

And I think he considers the people of the United States his family.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
8. Some vaccines are simply deactivated virus.
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:18 AM
May 2020

Unable to replicate, the components crank up the immune response so that if you encounter the live virus, your immune system is ready to attack it.
You may not even notice you acquired the virus, it never gets to build up to the point it makes you sick.

Why is this not possible with this corona virus?

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
22. FRONTLINE had very up-to-date info from scientists trying to develop a vaccine
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:44 AM
May 2020

One developer says that one that may actually work expires the moment it will be bottled to the time it is loaded on a truck. Very interesting program. Amazing how quickly PBS is getting info out there, instead of allowing the CT to flourish.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
17. This is what Trump does. Makes promises that has no science behind them.
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:37 AM
May 2020

Never looks at the details. Just makes big promises.

Someone should make a list of those lying promises.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
25. You should correct subject line to PREVENT. There ARE Veterinary Coronavirus vaccines
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:57 AM
May 2020

that are effective against Enteric Canine Coronavirus (CCoV) a common cause of diarrheal illness in young puppies, though they do not protect against the respiratory virus Respiratory Canine Coronavirus (CRCoV), The latter was discovered in dogs in England in 2003, usually causing mild respiratory disease,is genetically related to human cold coronaviruses (not COVID-19) and to the bovine coronavirus that causes both respiratory and enteric disease in cattle and other ruminants ((BCoVs), for which there is a vaccine to control the enteric effects, but not the respiratory variant. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4094360/

Cats get a coronavirus that causes FIP (Feline Infectious Peritonitis), again NOT transmissible to other animals for which there is a vaccine that confers some protection in settings with wide spread, but is not considered adequate for use in lower risk settings.

There has long been a swine coronavirus vaccine (enteric) and those against the respiratory coronavirus (for which there are multiple coronavirus variants) in poultry as discussed below and here:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fvets.2019.00341/full

Abstract

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) emerged in China and spread globally as a human pandemic. It is caused by a new coronavirus (CoV) of suspect animal origin. The emergence of SARS stunned medical scientists, but veterinary virologists had previously recognized CoVs as causing fatal respiratory or enteric disease in animals with interspecies transmission and wildlife reservoirs. Because of its public health impact, major efforts are focused on development of SARS vaccines. Occurrence of CoV disease at mucosal surfaces necessitates the stimulation of local immunity, having an impact on the vaccine type, delivery and adjuvant needed to achieve mucosal immunity. Such immunity is often short-lived, requires frequent boosting and may not prevent re-infection, all factors complicating CoV vaccine design. SARS vaccine efforts should be enhanced by understanding the correlates of protection and reasons for the success or failure of animal CoV vaccines. This review will focus on studies of immunity and protection in swine to the enteric CoV, transmissible gastroenteritis (TGEV) versus the respiratory variant, porcine respiratory CoV (PRCV), comparing live, inactivated and subunit vaccines, various vaccine vectors, routes and adjuvants. In addition avian infectious bronchitis CoV (IBV) vaccines targeted for protection of the upper respiratory tract of chickens are discussed. Unfortunately, despite long-term efforts, effective vaccines to prevent enteric CoV infections remain elusive, and generally live, but not killed vaccines, have induced the most consistent protection against animal CoVs. Confirmation of the pathogenesis of SARS in humans or animals models that mimic SARS may further aid in vaccine design and evaluation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15742624


Bottom line, there are LOTS of coronaviruses and SOME effective vaccines generally for those that cause more enteric illness. Not all coronaviruses cause potentially lethal illness in their hosts, but can serve as good models for vaccine development. But the challenge is signficant and far from a "sure thing." Not to mention that there is a significant risk for what we have seen in the disastrous attempts at a Dengue vaccine, for which there are four distinct serotypes and immunity from infection with one does not prevent later infection with another. That vaccine incorporated components of all four serotypes and induced what is known as antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), in which the immune response to the first virus amplifies the effect of the second type in an overwhelming and potentially lethal manner.


That said, PLEASE correct your subject line. Vaccines are designed to PREVENT disease by inciting the body's immune system. They are not designed to be "TREATMENTS." This is a serious misunderstanding among the public made worse by Trummp's constant BS.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
49. THANK YOU. I was looking around for just this info -- I knew that vets had a few vaccines for
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:06 AM
May 2020

some of the different animal coronaviruses, but you've found it before I did.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
32. Excellent!
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:42 AM
May 2020

I missed that as I was working and couldn't catch all the testimony.... We need to repeat this! Good information and it is in the Congressional Record.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
58. I have responded to you repeatedly. PLease correct your OP. Vaccines are NOT treatments.
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:56 PM
May 2020

I don't mean to harp on this, but it is important. Thanks

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
57. Never a HUMAN coronavirus vaccine. See my post upthread on veterinary vaccines for other coronavirus
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:54 PM
May 2020

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
27. Putting Trump aside, if its not gonna happen why havent ANY doctors said so?
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:03 AM
May 2020

Any outside of government have no trump fear. I havent seen any doctors say "we are never going to have a vaccine that works"

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
34. Someone posted in this thread...
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:06 AM
May 2020

that Dr Bright said in his Congressional Testimony that we have never had a vaccine for any corona-virus to date...We or I am not saying never but this information puts a realistic view on the false hope stuff being sold out there that we will have a vaccine in January 2021...Noting now...in the past 20 years, we have been unsuccessful for a vaccine for other corona-viruses...

See post # 26...

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
28. Maybe it's time to investigate alternative treatments but that won't happen until big Pharma's
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:13 AM
May 2020

control of the conventional medical establishment is cut off. nt

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
33. That's what I've been reading too
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:47 AM
May 2020

a vaccine is unlikely. Treatments are much more in the realm of reality.

disndat

(1,887 posts)
45. No news about Remdesivir yet
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:04 AM
May 2020

It has been distributed widely for testing. We should know soon if this treatment is going to work.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
51. The treatment aspect is where we should focus on something timely..
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020

Oh... I so want a vaccine too but it is not in the near future....Pharmacological therapy is the best bet for now...It is the first step anyways.... We went this route with HIV...

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
37. Make no mistake about a promise from trump
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:14 AM
May 2020

He'll pressure the developers to rush bypassing anything including safety, and claim it's a miracle from him being so smart and great. He might even claim he was the one who was behind their vaccine all along , then suggest or get others to say he deserves a noble prize for it. The reality will be its dangerous and not tested fully at all. And using others he'll have stock from that company bought, or demand huge campaign donations to get his vaccine promotion, or else he'll use his powers to prevent their production of it, over one he can grift from for profit. Trumps empty promises are something he's done for many years. It's all another scan , a con from this serial liar.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
38. Why would there be?
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:18 AM
May 2020

the prototype SARS vaccine notwithstanding. It was ready for large scale trials, but SARS disappeared and it was shelved.

The other coronaviruses in humans are nuisance diseases, like the common cold. They suck for seven days and then we're better. There are so many strains out there that a vaccine has been impractical.

Most viruses are species specific, species jumps likely didn't happen often until we domesticated farm animals. It's well known from the archaeological record that health and lifespan both declined due to the agricultural revolution. There is no reason to vaccinate bats and pangolins and other animals against coronaviruses, they seem to cope with them the way we cope with the common cold.

They already know how the virus infects cells. Our own immune systems are what make us feel like shit, increasing our body temperature and creating rivers of mucus in an attempt to flush virus from our bodies.

Science is doing all the things you want it to, it just takes time.

In the meantime, just be sensible, stay away from crowds, wash your hands properly, mask if you've got one, and stop worrying yourself even sicker.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
39. People keep saying "WHEN we get a vaccine..." but that should be:
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:20 AM
May 2020
IF we ever get a vaccine; if a vaccine is even possible — which we don't know yet.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
40. I completely agree with that!
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:21 AM
May 2020

We can handle the truth...Lies,, misinformation, false hope...not so easy to swallow.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
48. The SARS vaccine never got past animal testing, it didn't work, then the money and virus went away
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:23 AM
May 2020

Maybe they'll have more luck this time, mice, ferrets and monkeys first

"SARS vaccine linked to liver damage in ferrets"

Or instead of protecting against the virus the vaccine actually made it worse. So go to warp speed, cut steps, push risks aside. You first.



 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
53. Sars..
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:39 AM
May 2020

disappeared and MERS never became widely spread. The other human CVS are minor and a vaccine isn't needed.

They will get one, but not by January.

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