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1. New Order
Everybody else.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Pink Floyd!
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)I love their tunes.
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)(which happens to be what I'm telling everybody with whom I'm videochatting these days).
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Good one! 👍
dware
(12,337 posts)the late Syd Barrett.
ooky
(8,921 posts)msongs
(67,381 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)If not for them, we'd all be listening to Etruscan tunes. The horror!
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...though it's easy to confuse the two.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)#2, #3, #4, etc... favorites are difficult to name (all genres).
ironflange
(7,781 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)And I love them. But they're not New Order!
(this is not a joke)
LOL
Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)Beatles still beat 'em. And for New Wave, there are other groups I think are better.... Depeche Mode maybe... or my favorite... DEVO!!!!
LakeArenal
(28,812 posts)Should have been named first!
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Maybe its because they broke up over a decade before I was born, but I listening to them I can't understand how they were ever successful.
Of that era I wouldn't rank them above The Beach Boys, who do not merit mention in the best band conversation themselves.
My contenders would be Rolling Stones, Rush, Queen, Pink Floyd, The Who, and possibly Tool
Lochloosa
(16,062 posts)Then ABBA
The Figment
(494 posts)And this is why...
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Lochloosa
(16,062 posts)jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)... but my soul like yours says DEAD!
ooky
(8,921 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)There will never be another Freddie Mercury in my lifetime.
montanacowboy
(6,081 posts)Freddy Mercury was the greatest voice of the 20th Century and I believe the 21st as well. I will miss him always,
Olafjoy
(937 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Freddie Mercury was a musical genius.
tavernier
(12,375 posts)but Beatles are #1, Queen #2
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)See below.....
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I wish I could have gone to a Queen concert. I was probably about 12 when Freddie Mercury died.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)Queen is the one band I regret not seeing in concert back in the early 1980's when I had a chance.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I think Freddie Mercury is probably one of the greatest entertainers to have ever lived and the rest of the band were phenomenal musicians as well.
Boomerproud
(7,949 posts)Aka The 4 great guys with hair in their eyes.
marble falls
(57,063 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)Not even close.
Johnny2X2X
(19,021 posts)Probably my absolute favorite and a bucket list show to see.
The Beatles are probably the greatest musical group ever though.
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Scratch one off my bucket list.
Every time I hear another New Order song I'm like "No, THIS one is my favorite." So my favorite right now is "Leave Me Alone" because it's the last one I heard.
Johnny2X2X
(19,021 posts)Live in MI, was looking up air fair, but it was too busy a time for me.
Patterson
(1,529 posts)Response to Goodheart (Original post)
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honest.abe
(8,652 posts)meadowlander
(4,393 posts)Top 5 singer, guitar player and multi-instrumentalists plus the greatest drummer of all time.
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Solomon
(12,310 posts)Hands down.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Great video from their set at the Harlem Cultural Festival in 1969.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jynce
Darn, doesn't look like dailymotion videos embed.
My Lady
Sing a Simple Song
You Can Make it if You Try
Everyday People
Dance to the Music
Hey Music Lover into Higher (with Rose and Sly just going off)
Sid
happybird
(4,602 posts)2. Pink Floyd
Lochloosa
(16,062 posts)He made them all better.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Broadway, come To Me (very romantic),Better Days,Slide, All that You are...I like music from all sorts of bands and singers...from Dylan to lumineers My ringtone at the moment is Time Will Tell by Gregory Alan Isakov...I like his music.
yonder
(9,663 posts)cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)LeftInTX
(25,209 posts)hurl
(938 posts)I might actually like Don Caballero better, but a bit obscure.
tavernier
(12,375 posts)Best lead singer of any musical group- Freddie Mercury
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Lot of Beatles here but they and every other rock and roll band that followed were merely imitations.
flying rabbit
(4,631 posts)Zeppelin
Stones
Doors
Green Line
(1,123 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(977 posts)They pushed their music so far that they transcended all genres and created their own custom genre: "Beatles music."
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)ooky
(8,921 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Last edited Thu May 7, 2020, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Yes, this is generational, but there is only one group that, literally, changed the world with their music.
True story..., I recently had some work done on my house (floor and baseboards). As the worker was leaving we stopped at the front door to chat a second. He was a bit younger than me, but I'm 68. Still, he was no spring chicken.
We were talking about music, and the music we had listened to growing up, and he said that he was riding in his car with his son and a song by Wings came on. He said his son looked at him and said, "Did you know that Paul McCartney was in another group before he was in Wings?" I think the term "gobsmacked" could apply to my reaction...
Like I said, it IS generational, but in a few years MOST young people will have no clue as to who the Beatles were, nor their effect on music, or the world. That is so PROFOUNDLY sad.
The Beatles were good musicians, but had the extreme good fortune of being in the right place, at the right time. They hit the American "6 transistor" radios in early 1963. (Anyone under 50 probably has no clue... They were our first small portable radios. The Ipods of the day.) They were already big in England when they hit Ed Sullivan in February 1964, after the assassination of JFK in the previous fall. There was a combination of tragedy and hope going on at a crucial period of time, which literally affected the direction of politics.
They were part of the English Invasion of musical groups, which gave us a lot of good music (and a lot of bad), by some trailblazing groups.
But the Beatles became more than just a musical group. They changed how rock music was recorded by layering tracks on tracks, and in the process created some of the most incredible albums ever recorded.
Their early stuff was to please recording companies, and (primarily) teenage girls. They were the FIRST true "BOY BAND". (John was already married, but they kept that quiet.) There was nothing prefabricated about them. They were exactly what you saw. The wrote and played their own music, with a few cover songs thrown in.
They started really going their own way with Rubber Soul and Revolver.
Then there was Sgt. Pepper. That album coincided with the "summer of love", 1967. By then they were so intertwined with the love and peace youth movement, they were not only musicians, they helped shape a whole generational philosophy.
Follow that with The White Album, Magical Mystery Tour, Abbey Road, Let It Be, and you have included some songs that will forever by played.
True, in the beginning the recording techniques were nothing like we are used to today, but they did help bring about a LOT of changes and improvements.
But their influence on a genre of music, AND a whole generation, which in turn affected the politics of the world, will NEVER be repeated. Sadly.
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ooky
(8,921 posts)Original version, of course. I'm from the South and loved those long instrumentals that Betts and Duane Allman played, like Liz Reed and Jessica. And Whippin Post, with Greg's soulful voice. It was good stuff.
if..fish..had..wings
(661 posts)Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band
The Mothers of Invention
Riley Puckett and the Skillet Lickers
(Had wrong Puckett first time)
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But The Clash are in the mix.
Never realized until this post most of my favorites are not really groups. But headliners. Of course I like hard core country and adore Elvis Costello. Although The Attractions/Imposters have always been around.
tinrobot
(10,893 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Definitely influenced New Order.
Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)Many, many other great groups but nothing like the Beatles. Nothing.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)IMO, the best musical groups of our times were (and still are) the studio musicians behind most of the hit records we've all loved but who never get credit for making records into major hits:
For a quick review see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_musician#Studio_band
Examples:
* The Wrecking Crew (Los Angeles, 1960s1970s)
* The Nashville A-Team (Nashville, 1950s1960s)
* The Funk Brothers (Detroit, 1960s1970s)
* The Memphis Boys (Memphis, 1960s)
* The Section (Los Angeles, 1960s1970s).....and many more including some in New York.
A-list studio musicians are still behind many of the hits we hear today and not the well-known "band" musicians. They are my musical heroes.
KY.........
oasis
(49,365 posts)scarletlib
(3,410 posts)dware
(12,337 posts)by far the best band, at least in my honest opinion.
Used to listen to them in Vietnam while getting high.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)but I gravitated more to Flloyd, Zeppelin, Yes, and Genesis.
PCIntern
(25,518 posts)Look, Im not dissing any of the remarkable groups but for its time, from a musicological and lyrical perspective there is no one even close. Ill give you one small example: the tune She Loves You was the first song written about love in the third person, to my knowledge. Some of a Lennons key changes were innovative and were the subject of discussion of serious musicians. It was musical genius. And dont get me wrong: I can see why the Beatles were not your thing: the Stones arguably produced better Albums at times (Beggars Banquet vs The White Album) but the innovations of the Beatles were stellar. In terms of technical ability, the best guitarist of the age was not in any of these groups with perhaps the exception of a Clapton, but Glenn Campbell was undoubtedly the most gifted. Yes I know. Im wrong.
What do you want? Im 67 and lived through it.
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Lived through them. They were more than a band; they were a societal revolution.
And, of course, I agree that they're the greatest band of all time... for their innovation, as you say, and mostly for their impact and influence.
But "greatest" is not the title of the thread. It's "best", and as far as I'm concerned the best music is that which one enjoys the most.... and, my god, who couldn't love THIS?:
Besides, New Order were pioneers and innovators in their own right, combining synthesized and bass in an age that had been dominated by pop.... while also dominating the club scene.
PCIntern
(25,518 posts)And I for one as an individual Who grew up in a house of musicians and musicologists, understand the difference among: great tunes, great music, giftedness, musicality, catchy music, genius of performance, and all the rest.
Great thread....thanks!
Chiyo-chichi
(3,577 posts)I always wondered how Andy could afford a Taylor guitar given that he lived in a pit.
SKKY
(11,802 posts)1. Depeche Mode
2. Nine Inch Nails
3. U2
4. R.E.M.
5. Beastie Boys
#s 2 - 5 will change, depending on my mood,but #1 is, and always will be, Depeche Mode.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)I love New Order. When I clicked on the post I expected one of the usual answers!
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)let's face it... I didn't do a lot of clubs and bars or nightlife...
Just happened to be driving through D.C. in about 2002 or so and heard "Regret" on a progressive station... I thought it was very catchy so when I went home I looked them up... What a body of work! They're brilliant.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Full disclosure: these are my kids. And they're not famous, but to me, they're the greatest musical act of all time.
In a parallel world, it's the Beatles all the way. I'm pretty fond of the Cars, the Moody Blues, and Pink Floyd as well.
Fix The Stupid
(947 posts)Hands down.
What are the odds that the one of the greatest of all time...
Keyboard player - Benmont Tench III
Guitar Player -Mike Campbell
Songwriter- Tom Petty
..got together and formed a band? Well, 45 years later and here we are...
Benmont MIGHT be the greatest piano player I ever heard, but Mike Campbell IS the greatest guitar player and Tom Petty IS the greatest song-writer who ever lived.
I'll have words with anyone who says different
Mister Ed
(5,928 posts)Man, that Veronica was somethin' else. I never could understand how a spoiled little rich white girl learned to sing with all the power, sass, and style of the best Soul vocalists of the day.
JudyM
(29,225 posts)This was alerted on for being posted in the wrong forum - belongs in the Lounge - please repost there, its a fun topic.