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Goodheart

(5,264 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:37 PM Jan 2020

How does it make sense for the trump defense team to attack Hunter Biden?

The impeachment charge: trump withheld aide money to Ukraine in order to extort them into investigating the Bidens.

The trump defense: it's fishy that Hunter Biden made a lot of money in Ukraine so he should have been investigated.

That's the defense, and it's utterly stupid because it actually supports the impeachment charge. Of course, the d stupidity of that unintended congruity will be lost on trumpists, who will assert that suspicion of Hunter's income excuses away trump's extortion.... never mind that almost all of their orange hero's lifetime income has been suspicious.

You know, I've served on juries a couple of times... and it's sad to say that throwing irrelevant fogs and smokes and irrelevancies and red herrings and non sequiturs, etc., on a case can be very effective defensively. And to top it off, Republicans are not very bright in the first place.



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How does it make sense for the trump defense team to attack Hunter Biden? (Original Post) Goodheart Jan 2020 OP
Because that's what heinous orange told them to do. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #1
And that's why his followers love him, apparently. Goodheart Jan 2020 #4
Indeed. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #7
It is a diversion. When pukes say look over here? look over there. pwb Jan 2020 #2
Diversion and go on the attack is the go-to tactic when a Republican has nothing to stand on TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #5
It doesn't. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #3
Well Zerlinsky didn't smear him. Somebody's got to! nolabear Jan 2020 #6
Like you said. Just blowing smoke, and trying to claim there was corruption in Obama admin, Hoyt Jan 2020 #8
Yep that's all they have Andy823 Jan 2020 #11
they assume acquittal regardless. They're just using free airtime to smear the likely D-candidate unblock Jan 2020 #9
The term they keep using in the media.. Trumps opponents the Bidens..what a load of horse hockey Peacetrain Jan 2020 #10
The average "only half-way paying ... Whiskeytide Jan 2020 #12
It's what Trump does. It's how he knocked down 16 GOP opponents in 2016... Hekate Jan 2020 #13
IMO you should make this a stand-alone new discussion. Talitha Jan 2020 #14
Thank you, I'll consider that Hekate Jan 2020 #16
When beset by fear and doubt, run in circles, scream and shout...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #15
It doesn't. They don't care though, they're getting paid a lot to make shit up. Claritie Pixie Jan 2020 #17
The goal was/is to bring down Biden tinrobot Jan 2020 #18
They believe the Democrats will protect Joe Biden by not permitting Hunter Biden as a witness... kentuck Jan 2020 #19
Look over there! moondust Jan 2020 #20

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
6. Well Zerlinsky didn't smear him. Somebody's got to!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

This ENTIRE thing is over and includes his attempt to destroy a political rival by any means necessary. That’s it. Think about that for a minute.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Like you said. Just blowing smoke, and trying to claim there was corruption in Obama admin,
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jan 2020

with hopes of hurting Biden and Democrats.

The 40% in trump’s white wing base cheered it. Question is, if another 10% or so are too stupid to see what’s going on, or just don’t care.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
11. Yep that's all they have
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jan 2020

trump is guilty, and they know it. All they can do is follow trumps "script" and lie, lie, lie.

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
10. The term they keep using in the media.. Trumps opponents the Bidens..what a load of horse hockey
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jan 2020

Joe is going to kick his *ss into the next county.. He is Trumps opponent, but Hunter is not in this race.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
12. The average "only half-way paying ...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jan 2020

... attention” voter will simply conclude that if the investigations the Orange shitstain wanted were kinda legit, then he’s all good.

That’s all the defense team cares about. His base is loyal and will vote for him. Anyone paying attention hates him and will never vote for him. He’s trying to slip this past the mushy middle and minimize the amount of water he takes on.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
13. It's what Trump does. It's how he knocked down 16 GOP opponents in 2016...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:08 PM
Jan 2020

He picked them off one by one until he was the only one left. Very simple formula: he lies and lies and lies.

But the lies are tailored to the individual and all show a pattern:

Make up a nasty belittling nickname and use it often
Find an emotional weak spot (Ted Cruz loves his wife) and get inside their head and under their skin (Your wife so ugly. How ugly is she? Too ugly to "date" )
Stick the knife in. Twist it.
Mock the victim's response (Cruz choked and teared up)
Keep this up until they quit
Move on immediately to the next one

It does not matter if you think your chosen candidate is godlike and can stand up to a Cat 5 hurricane. It does not matter if you think Joe Biden is too old or whatever. Know this: once Joe and Hunter Biden are destroyed your candidate is next.

So we either stick together and defend each other, or Trump/Pence is guaranteed to win this November.

Talitha

(6,477 posts)
14. IMO you should make this a stand-alone new discussion.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jan 2020

Personally, I'd never realized it until just now - and it's horrifying.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
16. Thank you, I'll consider that
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:29 AM
Jan 2020

I've been ranting about this for 4 years -- Trump is a master of the ugly things he does, and knocking out 16 qualified GOP presidential candidates (some of them super-qualified, like Jeb and Mitt) was a jaw-dropping sustained performance.

One. At. A. Time.

So this idea of offering up either of the Bidens to the Senate is absolutely an abomination.



kentuck

(110,950 posts)
19. They believe the Democrats will protect Joe Biden by not permitting Hunter Biden as a witness...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:44 AM
Jan 2020

...and in doing so, will not permit any other witnesses, which might tend to severely incriminate Donald Trump.

moondust

(19,917 posts)
20. Look over there!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jan 2020

Look over there!
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Look over there!
Case closed.

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