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H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 05:55 PM Oct 2019

"Imagine, if you will ....."




Imagine, if you will, getting a phone call from a long-time associate in all things political. It is hard to understand what he is talking about at first, because he cannot stop from laughing. It's late at night, you were half-asleep, and at first you wonder what is going on. And then even more laughing, before he finally says he just got off the phone after a long call from an attorney from the capital.

There were apparently numerous informal meeting involving staff from various republican representatives yesterday evening. They recognized that William Taylor's testimony had severely damaged Donald Trump, as well as his enablers. They know that having Barr as Attorney General is the only thing that stands between a number of those enablers and a prison cell. They understand that a damaged Trump, even if the Senate does not convict him, will be a ball & chain on many republicans, and thus a threat to their current comfortable positions.

I can't say with any certainty what was discussed in all of these group huddles, but I would like to focus on one. For sake of conversation – and perhaps exact accuracy – let's focus our attention on one such meeting, run by a top aide to an especially obnoxious republican. I think most people here would agree that Matt Gaetz is an especially obnoxious republican, with no apologies to anyone who likes him.

Due to the significance of such a meeting, it could not be held in one of the bars that others were meeting at to sooth their sorrows. Yet the alcohol at this private meeting was flowing. It should come as no surprise that Matt Gaetz's aide is almost as repulsive as the congressman. At least one of the others there thinks to himself that the guy is doing an embarrassing imitation of Gaetz.

Pseudo-Gaetz notes that those at risk from the impeachment investigation are not limited to people in the administration. There are more than a few republicans who had dealings with Rudy Giuliani's “team.” If the Democrats win the White House in 2020, it will upset their apple cart. Thus, the aide outlines his updated, multi-layered plan to attack the Democratic Party.

They must first, of course, attempt to stir the base. Get them fired up and angry that the “corruption” that Trump insisted needed to be investigated in Ukraine was being ignored by the “lame street media.” When someone asks if these haven't been proven to be nonsense, the aide replies that there is no way to prove these are false. The heads of the staff of the far right-wing congressmen nod in agreement. “We can build off that,” one says.

Besides getting the base to flood social media with outrage, they must have trusted people infiltrate an disrupt the Democratic Party. This includes on social media, and if possible, placing spies within various campaigns.”Sounds like a blend of Nixon's rat-fuckers and 2016,” says another. “Right!,” psuedo-Gaetz replied. “We focus on dividing them with hostility.”

Part of the group engages in talk about using rumors that the “Democratic establishment” is unhappy with the current group of presidential candidates, and is pressuring a couple “establishment” regulars to enter the race. Pseudo-Gaetz states that if this actually were to happen, it would shatter any unified attempt to defeat Trump. In fact, he says, it could cause one or two to run as a third party ticket, allowing Trump to win both the electoral college and popular vote. “We don't need any Russians to help with this,” psuedo-Gaetz notes. “We just have to have a core of volunteers focused on injecting righteous indignation into as many Democratic campaigns between now and 2020, and we can take back the House.”

After the meeting ends, one of the congressional aides ventured to one of the bars that is popular with those inhabiting circles in and around government. By the time he is half-way through his second drink there, two things become apparent to those around him. First, he is slamming alcohol down in a manner that could not be mistaken for “social drinking.” And second, he had confused the others near him for a sympathetic group. He began to complain about the great difficulties he faces daily with those who support Trump over the republican party.

On his third drink, he says that although almost half of those at the meeting are uncomfortable with what had been discussed, not one of them had spoken up. An attorney asked him if he had spoken up? “No.” Why not, she asks? “Because we know that the president is like a highly disturbed teenager, nursing his guns while he stews about how much he hates his classmate. You don't want him to come looking for you.”

Peace,
H2 Omen


PS: When you watch the news about Gaetz today, keep in mind that he believes he will become president after Trump in 2024. Ass-clown.
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"Imagine, if you will ....." (Original Post) H2O Man Oct 2019 OP
You are spot on, as usual, my dear H20 Man! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Oct 2019 #2
Thanks WaterMan malaise Oct 2019 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Oct 2019 #5
Crazy shit happening today coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #4
It was a wild day. H2O Man Oct 2019 #7
Witness intimidation coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #9
I'm not sure. H2O Man Oct 2019 #10
***Also: H2O Man Oct 2019 #11
Never knew Gaetz was Floridian coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #12
Fascinating leftieNanner Oct 2019 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Oct 2019 #8
Thanks, H20 Man. democrank Oct 2019 #13
I heard Erin Burnett parrot this idea the other day: Trueblue Texan Oct 2019 #14
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #15

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,593 posts)
1. You are spot on, as usual, my dear H20 Man!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:08 PM
Oct 2019

They are ALL ass-clowns. ALL.

I believe that we are already seeing the push towards "establishment" regulars to join the race.

But since we are now aware of how they expect their plots to come to fruition, we can take steps to stop them.

And we will.

Because we must drive them and this entire cursed "administration" straight into perdition.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
2. Thank you!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:28 PM
Oct 2019

I think that one of the issues that we should campaign on is building a new federal prison, becayse a bunch of them are going to be incarcerated. But not "the biggest ever, with 78 buildings, hundreds of acres, and golf courses." I'm thinking something similar to the cages the Trump people kept children in.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
5. Thanks!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:54 PM
Oct 2019

I wanted to post this essay this morning, but had a busy day. When I saw the news this afternoon, I almost died laughing. This clown Gaetz thinks he's the next big thing in republican politics. I think he's the next Nunes.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
4. Crazy shit happening today
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:54 PM
Oct 2019

Gaetz in particular. I suppose their stunt was supposed to whip up the base.

Thanks for the inside story! I bet what happened today was hatched last night during the drunken plotting session. Only explanation I can think of.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
7. It was a wild day.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:59 PM
Oct 2019

It's difficult for me to think of any way the republican stunt could have fallen flatter, unless Mike Tyson punched it. And yes, it was attempted to arouse the Trump loyalists, and to put gear into the hearts of the republicans in the House and Senate that are questioning if they should keep supporting the president.

They aren't very smart when they are sober. I'm surprised they still thought it was a groovy plan when they woke up this morning. Maybe, to para-quote a nerd on the Supreme Court, they had blacked out.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
9. Witness intimidation
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019

Didn't work, had no chance of working. They should have all been arrested.

Fucking idiots.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
10. I'm not sure.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:11 PM
Oct 2019

Being arrested would have allowed them to feign victimhood. As it went, they appeared as a cluster of ass-clowns.

Part of who they are playing to, as you noted, is the current republican base. And they are base, though in the sense of adjective, rather than noun or verb. Hence the theater that encourages this type of base behavior among republican cluster gangs.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
11. ***Also:
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:09 PM
Oct 2019

It was inspired from the infamous "Brooks Brothers Riot" from the 2000 re-count in -- where else? -- Florida, the homeland of Matt Gaetz.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
12. Never knew Gaetz was Floridian
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:53 AM
Oct 2019

Crap.

As you know I have been exchanging emails with my rep.

One of my emails yesterday said I had better not find out he was disrupting the SCIF yesterday. Like he cares what I think. But I have fun pretending my opinion matters to him.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
6. Fascinating
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:55 PM
Oct 2019

BUT ..... I thought one of the Orange One's spawn was supposed to be 👑 in 2024!



I bet Gaetz hasn't calculated in his consequences for today's stunt.

Trueblue Texan

(2,426 posts)
14. I heard Erin Burnett parrot this idea the other day:
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:14 AM
Oct 2019

"Part of the group engages in talk about using rumors that the “Democratic establishment” is unhappy with the current group of presidential candidates,"

When I heard it I thought, "man that sounds like a Republican talking point right along the lines of Pelosi being a lightning rod." Thanks for the confirmation.

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