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coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:28 PM Apr 2019

Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus?

Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus? Republican lawyers may be ready to jump off sinking ship. In stonewalling Congress and accusing McGahn of lying, Trump may have doomed himself with legal conservatives.


We may be heading into a real live constitutional crisis, folks. A special counsel has carefully documented a series of events showing that the president committed high crimes, using sworn testimony of people directly involved. Since the Justice Department has decided it cannot indict a sitting president, the only path to remove a criminal president resides with the Congress. Now that same president is refusing to acknowledge its constitutional power by failing to provide documents or to allow witnesses to testify, even under subpoena. This showdown is obviously heading to the courts, although the president seems to be somewhat confused about how that works.

It's tempting to make fun of Trump's twisted logic and addled understanding of the basic process of government, but this is a serious matter. He's not just venting before the world on his puerile Twitter feed. The administration is refusing to cooperate with the Congress at all, and that is highly unusual even for presidents under siege.

Normally there is some form of accommodation in these cases, even if the White House wants to claim executive privilege. This administration has decided to totally stonewall everything, from tax returns to testimony about security clearances. Trump and his minions are claiming this privilege after they've already waived it even as the president is blabbing about the matters under subpoena on TV and Twitter.

Trump may not know much about how the government works, but he does understand TV ratings. So I would guess that the main reason for this stonewall is to keep the Democrats from staging dramatic public hearings to illustrate for the American people what Robert Mueller found in his investigation. He apparently understands that he can't keep Mueller from testifying, but Mueller doesn't seem to be the one Trump is worried about. He almost certainly doesn't want to see former staffers like Hope Hicks or Rob Porter on screen testifying about his rampant corruption. But the one who scares him the most is former White House counsel Don McGahn.


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Could Don McGahn lead a Trump exodus? (Original Post) coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 OP
I wonder wryter2000 Apr 2019 #1
No. H2O Man Apr 2019 #3
Yea sure you can testify i cant stop you btw that's a lovely family you got..a lovely family indeed Fullduplexxx Apr 2019 #19
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2019 #2
Older, anyway coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #8
I never thought H2O Man Apr 2019 #9
I Take Excaption To That Me. Apr 2019 #13
You're too kind coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #22
Exception Me. Apr 2019 #24
No Don McGahn..is a fucking Repuplican. He will end up INdemo Apr 2019 #4
Absolutely correct, with the proviso that he'll save his own ass first. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #14
I think Mueller is a more important player.. kentuck Apr 2019 #5
Trump is on tape yesterday saying Don McGahn LIED to Robert Mueller..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #6
Also, will make it hard to stop McGahn from testifying based on executive privilege. marylandblue Apr 2019 #7
Executive Privilege was waived for McGahn to talk with Mueller...... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #16
Yeah, that's another argument. marylandblue Apr 2019 #17
Got it.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #20
I hope McGahn has some security. Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #10
God willing Mme. Defarge Apr 2019 #11
I think McGahn will attempt to get around testifying before the Congress... kentuck Apr 2019 #12
He seems to have some integrity and may also fear a Trump loss in 2020. marylandblue Apr 2019 #18
hard to say if his resistance to illegal orders shanny Apr 2019 #21
Well I hope he is the first of many coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #23
i wonder how many of these lawyers are worried about their licenses. mopinko Apr 2019 #15
That's what I was thinking too, Mo. The attorneys would risk losing their ability to make a living. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #25

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
22. You're too kind
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

At least I have been wise enough for years not to fall for any republican and follow it up with the foolish choice of actually voting for that person.

Mahalo Me.!

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
4. No Don McGahn..is a fucking Repuplican. He will end up
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:36 PM
Apr 2019

covering for Hitler II with tears in his eyes the same way Rod Rosenstein did.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
6. Trump is on tape yesterday saying Don McGahn LIED to Robert Mueller.....
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:42 PM
Apr 2019

Congress needs to haul McGahn in front of them and soon. Trump is the one LYING here to cover his own orange wrinkly ass.

Robert Mueller too about this particular question. Trump will attack him, but Mueller will win this arguement.

Don McGahn,, being a lawyer himself, knows such an act would result in him being disbarred. Why would he risk that?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Also, will make it hard to stop McGahn from testifying based on executive privilege.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

If someone is lying, he isn't giving away any privileged information.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
16. Executive Privilege was waived for McGahn to talk with Mueller......
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:10 PM
Apr 2019

So Trump cannot stop McGahn .he can not answer questions that do not pertain to what he told Mueller after 30 hours. McGahn would know that.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
17. Yeah, that's another argument.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:19 PM
Apr 2019

All I'm saying is that you can't privilege a conversation you say never happened.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
12. I think McGahn will attempt to get around testifying before the Congress...
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 02:39 PM
Apr 2019

...or he will tell the least that is possible?

He is a strong right-winger.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. He seems to have some integrity and may also fear a Trump loss in 2020.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

When he will not be protected from prosecution or disbarment.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
21. hard to say if his resistance to illegal orders
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:45 PM
Apr 2019

was principled or CYA...wait: he's a Republican so I'm sure it was the latter. However, he has a long career in front of him and I think donny boy does not so CYA will still apply.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
23. Well I hope he is the first of many
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:54 PM
Apr 2019

to stand up to the orange buffoon and tell the truth.

A girl can HOPE.

mopinko

(70,074 posts)
15. i wonder how many of these lawyers are worried about their licenses.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:04 PM
Apr 2019

by now they hopefully know they are seriously tarnished by their association w that maggot. d.c. might get ugly for these guys, esp if we really sweep the thugs out.
they might want that license to start over in a new town.

i know i sure wouldnt risk mine. (i dont have one. just sayin.)

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
25. That's what I was thinking too, Mo. The attorneys would risk losing their ability to make a living.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 04:21 PM
Apr 2019
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