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H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:05 PM Mar 2019

Rumors

“There are people who take rumors and embellish them in a way that can be devastating. And this pollution has to be eradicated by people in our business as best we can.”
-- Bob Woodward


A fact: George Conway tweeted that Trump is spinning out of control, due to psychological impairment, and thus poses a threat to U.S. National security.

A rumor: the White House is attempting to spin this in a way that distracts from Conway's message. With the help from some surprisingly silly journalists, the White House is attempting to make it all about trouble in the Conway marriage.

The truth: let's think back to something I wrote about here in 2017. Kellyanne Conway has on MSNBC's “Morning Joe” at the time the show's hosts were beginning to comprehend how horrible of a human specimen Donald Trump actually is. Ms. Conway vigorously and obnoxiously defended Trump ….while the cameras were rolling.

During a commercial break, however, Conway stuck a finger in her throat, then began yelping about what a horrible man he was, and how darned awful it was to work for him. I noted then, based upon the hosts' later off-air reactions that day, that Conway was unlikely to ever be invited back.

In September of 2018, a letter signed “Anonymous” appeared in the New York Times. The letter, which generally described Trump as a horrible man who is darned awful to work for. The op-ed was authored by someone who describes him/herself as serving in a heroic manner to protect America from the mad king. Despite attempts to identify who wrote and delivered the piece, which appears to have been done by someone with a legal background, the White House has been silent about their effort.

(Note: It is possible the letter was authored by a lawyer, and delivered to the Times by that lawyer's spouse. Especially if that spouse is also a noted lawyer. That would give the author plausible deniability, as he/she could honestly say that he/she did not deliver such a letter to the editors of the paper.)

In early 2019, former White House aide Cliff Sims published a book, “Team of Vipers.” Among other things, he called Conway a “cartoon villain,” and described how she was the source of various leaks to journalists. One in particular was curious – Sims described Conway's efforts to deny what had taken place off-camera on Morning Joe when she trashed Trump. Gracious!

The truth is that Kellyanne was complaining to George over the weekend about how horrible a person Trump is, and how darned awful it is to work for him. She was reacting to a number of things, not limited to his splattering of sick tweets. George, who has read at least part of Dr. Bandy X Lee's 2017 book, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,” decided to take action.

This is not to say that there are not “issues” in the Conway marriage. They are both vile creatures. It's worth noting that before finding each other, George dated Laura Ingraham, and Kellyanne dated Fred Thompson. Eventually, Ann Coulter introduced George and Kellyanne. Also, although she lived in Trump Towers from 2001 to 2008, Kellyanne did not originally back Trump in 2016 – rather, she worked for Ted Cruz. Yikes!

So we are talking about two poison snakes. The reason that George attacked Trump this week in the manner that he did was entirely in response to what his wife told him over the weekend. Thus, there is absolutely no need – none whatsoever-- to go where Greg Gutfeld did yesterday on Fox's “The Five,” when he literally said he was thinking about the pair's sex life.

I apologize to any readers who were about to eat.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Rumors (Original Post) H2O Man Mar 2019 OP
BTW, the comments the traitor made over and over about someone doing a report who was not elected Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #1
Absolutely agree 100% H2O Man Mar 2019 #2
Well, there's something to chew on! Is kellyanne a lawyer? I know she's a pollster. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #3
She graduated from H2O Man Mar 2019 #4
So many of trumpy's useful idiots like Conway, Manafort, Kushner, etc went to law school FM123 Mar 2019 #27
What A Fun POst Me. Mar 2019 #5
Thanks, Me! H2O Man Mar 2019 #6
I REfused To Go Down The Rabbit Hole Of Visuals Me. Mar 2019 #8
Luckily, H2O Man Mar 2019 #12
Consider The Subjects Me. Mar 2019 #17
Yes - this is a gang of vipers malaise Mar 2019 #7
Right. H2O Man Mar 2019 #10
the tv part of the media has money as its primary focus Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #22
Oh that 2nd to last paragraph tho. It's like a Who's Who in a pit of poisonus vipers. Skin crawling. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #9
Yep! H2O Man Mar 2019 #11
How many keyboards did you break typing it, though? The combination of vomit and rage isn't pleasant DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #13
Fred Thompson? Really? CaptYossarian Mar 2019 #15
Yep, she was a Cruz fan: dalton99a Mar 2019 #14
Amazing OP! Anon-C Mar 2019 #16
George and Kelly are a team mercuryblues Mar 2019 #18
KAC may believe the lie MontanaMama Mar 2019 #19
Interesting post. Thanks. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #20
The Conways belong in a circus sideshow tent. democrank Mar 2019 #21
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Mar 2019 #23
I see what you did there ... dweller Mar 2019 #24
I agree the Conways are a pair of sociopathic snakes, but I was already nauseous over Pompeo... Hekate Mar 2019 #25
Omarosa wrote in her book that Trump used racial slurs against George Conway. Kanoko Mar 2019 #26
You just know she's writing a book coeur_de_lion Mar 2019 #28
I believe George Conway is the infamous leaker. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #29

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. BTW, the comments the traitor made over and over about someone doing a report who was not elected
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

or who had not won an election, aside from the fact rump LOST the election, what he is SAYING is he does NOT believe in a system that has an independent justice system and the HE and HE ALONE should make these decisions.

He is SINCERELY surprised that he CANT do that now, and I mean that.

He has FORTY FIVE MILLION FUCKING PILES OF HUMAN SHIT who support him and will continue to if he starts to LOCK UP the judges, FBI, etc.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
2. Absolutely agree 100%
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:13 PM
Mar 2019

Those comments are highly disturbing. I think it is a combination of Trump's extreme ignorance -- he definitely had very little if any idea of how government works -- along with his simply not caring about the rule of law.

He posed serious dangers from the beginning. Those dangers are increasing rapidly.

Karadeniz

(22,470 posts)
3. Well, there's something to chew on! Is kellyanne a lawyer? I know she's a pollster.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

I, too, had heard a milder version of her speaking the truth, but I recognized your version. Wish the cameraman had kept on taping! That would be heaven. If George is aware of kellyannes private opinion, either he or his wife could have written the anonymous ok ed..and explain why these two are still together.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
4. She graduated from
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:23 PM
Mar 2019

George Washington University Law School in 1992; clerked for Judge Richard Levie on the DC Superior Court.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
27. So many of trumpy's useful idiots like Conway, Manafort, Kushner, etc went to law school
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:34 AM
Mar 2019

so you would think that having a J.D. would give them a little more "respect" for the law...

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
12. Luckily,
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:53 PM
Mar 2019

I did mental editing of several of the crude things I was going to say. It could have been worse, Me.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
7. Yes - this is a gang of vipers
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

M$Greedia seems incapable of dealing with the serious aspects of these issues and are all using the TMZ/National Enquirer gossip approach.

Additionally the vile MAGAcretin believes he has absolute authority - he said said that more than once publicly. I think that needs way more public discussion

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
10. Right.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

The media's primary focus at this time should be the court papers per Cohen that were made public on Monday. Thus far, Nick Ackerman -- who is outstanding -- has provided the most insightful analysis of the redacted sections. Several of them are specifically about Donald and Donald, Jr.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,251 posts)
22. the tv part of the media has money as its primary focus
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:58 PM
Mar 2019

Background, when given, is selected for its value in causing viewers to stay tuned.

Exceptions exist but are mostly drowned out.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
9. Oh that 2nd to last paragraph tho. It's like a Who's Who in a pit of poisonus vipers. Skin crawling.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:46 PM
Mar 2019

eom

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
13. How many keyboards did you break typing it, though? The combination of vomit and rage isn't pleasant
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:02 PM
Mar 2019

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
15. Fred Thompson? Really?
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:07 PM
Mar 2019

On the Nixon tapes, Dicky asked John Ehrlichman about Watergate lawyer Thompson. He said Fred was not very bright, but he's loyal. Those words could describe Ingraham and Kellyanne too.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
14. Yep, she was a Cruz fan:
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/15/i-need-to-take-a-shower-kellyanne-conway-said-after-defending-candidate-trump-according-to-morning-joe/

“This is a woman, by the way, who came on our show during the campaign and would shill for Trump in extensive fashion, and then she would get off the air, the camera would be turned off, the microphone would be taken off, and she would say, ‘Blech. I need to take a shower,’ ” Brzezinski said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Because she disliked her candidate so much.”

Scarborough chimed in to say that Conway “also said that this is just, like, my summer in Europe. This is like my vacay — I’m just doing it for the money. I’ll be off this soon. I don’t know that she ever said, ‘I’m doing this for the money,’ but she said, ‘This is just my summer vacation, my summer in Europe.’ And, basically, ‘I’m just gonna get through this.’ ”

After ignoring the hosts' comments for more than 24 hours, Conway responded on Twitter Tuesday afternoon. She said her "beliefs, commitments and loyalties are plain to see" but did not specifically deny making the remarks that Brzezinski and Scarborough said she made.

Conway, a pollster by trade, started the 2016 election cycle working for a super PAC that supported Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.). After Cruz dropped out, she joined the Trump campaign on July 1 and became campaign manager the following month.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
18. George and Kelly are a team
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

they know exactly what they are doing. She is keeping the family flush with money, while he keeps them marketable after trump is gone from office. If trump was just a cretin without loving Putin and all things Russia, he would be 100% behind trump.

Instead of getting high praise from Democrats, he should be reminded that his wife works for the person he rails against.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
19. KAC may believe the lie
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

she’s told herself that she is saving the country from a mad man but in reality, she doesn’t have the skill set to save anybody from anything. She’s a simple shill at best and surely one of the worst people in this whole shitty circus. I hope she is permantly unemployed very soon.

I could NOT be married to someone who sold out in this way and I’m not sure how George stands it except he’s a repuke too...so there you go.

Great OP! I enjoyed it.

democrank

(11,085 posts)
21. The Conways belong in a circus sideshow tent.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 08:03 PM
Mar 2019

There always seems to be some kind of fresh hell attached to them.

dweller

(23,613 posts)
24. I see what you did there ...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 12:51 AM
Mar 2019

and I like that about you, subtle, and stealthy...

and more clues in the various replies to responses.. nicely done 👍🏻

✌🏼️

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
25. I agree the Conways are a pair of sociopathic snakes, but I was already nauseous over Pompeo...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 03:26 AM
Mar 2019

...saying that the Mad King was sent by God to save the Jews. He may have even quoted the Book of Esther. There is no end to the depravity of these people.

Peace, let us all hope,
Hekate

 

Kanoko

(35 posts)
26. Omarosa wrote in her book that Trump used racial slurs against George Conway.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:35 AM
Mar 2019

Kellyanne's husband responded to Omarosa's claims as "absurd" and "not credible". That was then. Perhaps, by now, he's come believe those allegations to be true.

link:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/10/george-conway-omarosa-trump-race-771668|

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
28. You just know she's writing a book
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:55 AM
Mar 2019

And will make a mint from her time in the nest of vipers.

The fact she is Queen viper will be played down in her book but it will still be a juicy read.

JohnnyRingo

(18,618 posts)
29. I believe George Conway is the infamous leaker.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 AM
Mar 2019

It's easy to imagine that Kellyanne brings her shock of incompetence and stories of the stupidity within the Oval Office home with her. Her husband has ramped up his comments recently. My guess is that Trump started calling her something like Butterface or grabbed her ass.

You can bet the book's being written as we speak.

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