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Zina Bash's husband doesn't like you calling her out on "random" gestures (Original Post) RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 OP
Stephen Miller is Jewish. He's a white supremacist Roland99 Sep 2018 #1
He's also done it himself RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #2
and Zina has worked on Trump immigration policy undoubtedly WITH Miller. Someone should tweet that hlthe2b Sep 2018 #3
As a Jew, I would like disown Stephen Miller Gothmog Sep 2018 #12
Oh? Shes Jewish and Mexican? Wtf is up with the hate? Tiggeroshii Sep 2018 #4
Ted Cruz is Cuban torius Sep 2018 #5
No, Cruz is an alien Kilgore Sep 2018 #33
Her ethnic heritage is meaningless MontanaMama Sep 2018 #6
and the video is very clear bdtrppr6 Sep 2018 #7
No one hold their arm like that for more than ten seconds RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #8
I was just trying to "rest" my arm in that way and it takes a lot of work to position your hand TeamPooka Sep 2018 #9
It's not far off from how I rest one hand on the other arm - Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #35
watch the video, not the pictures TeamPooka Sep 2018 #41
I watched the video before my initial post. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #42
Try digging your thumbnail into your arm like she is doing Quixote1818 Sep 2018 #38
She can't speak for herself? gratuitous Sep 2018 #10
But she married a racist who works in the trump administration Gothmog Sep 2018 #11
Anyone who puts themself in front of a TV camera ... lpbk2713 Sep 2018 #13
ESPECIALLY with her SMIRKS to Go With. Cha Sep 2018 #23
"random"... Totally Tunsie Sep 2018 #14
I know right! Like he's protesting Cha Sep 2018 #24
As random as this: dixiegrrrrl Sep 2018 #36
Yup. Totally Tunsie Sep 2018 #40
"It hurts when I do that." --------- Doctor: "Don't do that." UTUSN Sep 2018 #15
Zina Bash received a text message Blueplanet Sep 2018 #16
This is very clear Gothmog Sep 2018 #18
Wow, that's incredibly obvious. AJT Sep 2018 #20
Who else could have texted: Stephen MILLER. UTUSN Sep 2018 #29
Yep. dalton99a Sep 2018 #37
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2018 #17
Dear John, OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #19
OMG. Very well done. eom brush Sep 2018 #30
She is a race traitor kimbutgar Sep 2018 #21
Fine! let her come out and rebuke it. Does he really think it wasn't a gesture? All those hours NA!! Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #22
Zina is a trump supporter.. Case Closed. Cha Sep 2018 #25
Are her social media accounts closed yet? (Nt) matt819 Sep 2018 #26
Whether she meant to, or not, the fascists will believe she did Ponietz Sep 2018 #27
And the same can be said of people here mythology Sep 2018 #34
Was gonna say she doesn't look too 'white' to me. elleng Sep 2018 #28
Here is a pic of me innocently asking for 2 orders of french fries: ret5hd Sep 2018 #31
Nice elaborate variation on the "some of my best friends are black" John Fante Sep 2018 #32
Shut the fuck up. Your childish and repulsive wife was signaling. dalton99a Sep 2018 #39
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
2. He's also done it himself
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

I don't even think it's REALLY a white power gesture. But to act like they don't know what they're doing is pretty weird to me. She WORKS FOR THAT GUY.

hlthe2b

(101,701 posts)
3. and Zina has worked on Trump immigration policy undoubtedly WITH Miller. Someone should tweet that
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
4. Oh? Shes Jewish and Mexican? Wtf is up with the hate?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

Even disregarding the potential gesture, she has been working for somebody who is targeting hispanic americans to take away their citizneship and putting children in cages. Can we "bash" her for that if nothing else?

torius

(1,652 posts)
5. Ted Cruz is Cuban
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:42 PM
Sep 2018

one one side and he teams up with White Supremacists. Latinos can be 100% European, anyway.

MontanaMama

(23,238 posts)
6. Her ethnic heritage is meaningless
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:47 PM
Sep 2018

when she works for and supports people who terrorize and demean others by their words, policies and actions.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
7. and the video is very clear
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:50 PM
Sep 2018

she knew what she was doing and explicitly doing it. every gesture and fleeting look on her face said she was purposefully making the sign. no one sits like that, hand completely motionless in one position while aware a camera was on them.

i hope they all burn.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
8. No one hold their arm like that for more than ten seconds
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:53 PM
Sep 2018

She seemed very aware of the camera and what she was up to.

TeamPooka

(24,155 posts)
9. I was just trying to "rest" my arm in that way and it takes a lot of work to position your hand
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:55 PM
Sep 2018

that way.
There was no "natural" path to that hand position.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
35. It's not far off from how I rest one hand on the other arm -
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:55 AM
Sep 2018

Split, with three fingers below the arm, and the thumb and forefinger above. All I'd have to do is curl my index finger - which certainly doesn't feel unnatural.

I have no idea whether it was intentional, or whether she even know it is what has been is popularized as a hate. But if the test is whether there is a natural path to that hand position - I don't have to concentrate to put my hand in something very close to that position. It's jsut how my hand tends to rest on my arm (with more or less degree of curl in the index finger) - typically with the mirror on the other arm, from underneath.

TeamPooka

(24,155 posts)
41. watch the video, not the pictures
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:02 PM
Sep 2018

she gets a text, then very specifically puts her arm in that position.
Let me know what you think



Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
38. Try digging your thumbnail into your arm like she is doing
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 01:05 AM
Sep 2018

When I do that my index finger naturally wants to curl up. She isn't actually doing a white power sign because her thumb is arching up with nail into her arm. It's not curled in a circle.

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
13. Anyone who puts themself in front of a TV camera ...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:05 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)




for a couple of hours should expect a certain degree of scrutiny. Especially
in the political arena. It's naive for them to think everyone watching would
think she is a wonderful person.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
16. Zina Bash received a text message
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:36 PM
Sep 2018

Just prior to making the hand gesture.
Notice she is reading something just prior to making the hand gesture.
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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
19. Dear John,
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:47 PM
Sep 2018

I would never accuse your wife of making a white power gesture. Though it arguably looks like she's making a white power gesture, it's entirely possible she wasn't making a white power gesture. As a fellow Jew, I know that I would never make a white power gesture, even accidentally, and I'd certainly hope that your wife wasn't making a white power gesture. You'd have to admit that it would be especially horrible if she were to make a white power gesture, given her ethnicities. Probably a misunderstanding about white power gestures, and it's probably a good idea for her to avoid making white power gestures in the future, even if she inadvertently made a white power gesture. I also, by the way, do not think that she was holding a vial of white powder, although it's possible, as some people do hold vials of white powder in that manner. I sincerely do not believe that she was holding a vial of white powder while making a white power gesture, but I will admit that it is a possibility that she was holding a vial of white powder while making a white power gesture, however unlikely she would make a white power gesture, nor hold a vial of white powder. I should point out that she is quite a pouter, though she's clearly not a white pouter. However, if it so happens that she was making a white power gesture, it's not out of the realm of possibility that she identifies as a white pouter. More so, if she identifies as a white pouter, it increases the possibility that she was making a white power gesture. Perhaps as a result of her ethnic confusion, she was holding a vial of white powder while being a white pouter and making a white power gesture. I would appreciate it if you could alleviate my concerns that she is a white pouter holding white powder while gesturing white power.

I'll await further confirmation that you wife is not a white pouter, was not holding white powder, and was not making a white power gesture all at the same time.

All my best,

Oilem

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
34. And the same can be said of people here
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:57 PM
Sep 2018

I don't find the claim that it's a white power symbol convincing considering it started as a hoax, got bought into by people who wanted to believe a conspiracy (seeing people posting that phony ACLU flyer even after being told it's phony is a great example of how truth doesn't matter to some people here who want to bash), and the people who started it are trolls, it's far more likely that the symbol is of trolls not white supremacists.

There's a reason Snopes says it's unproven that it's a racist symbol and the ADL says it isn't.

https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
32. Nice elaborate variation on the "some of my best friends are black"
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:53 PM
Sep 2018

argument. Unfortunately John, we know a WP sign when we see one, and that's exactly what your wife was flashing on national television. If this and the incoming backlash bother you, I couldn't care less. The Trump administration kidnaps children and sticks them in detention camps. Fuck each and every last one of you.

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