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I'm so glad Russia LOST and is unable to proceed further in the World Cup. (Original Post) C Moon Jul 2018 OP
I know how much this crushes Putin... BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #1
Yeah. I added (but removed) "I feel for the Russian athletes." C Moon Jul 2018 #3
If Russia held an honest election, Putin would be re-elected TomVilmer Jul 2018 #4
Much of that is due to the govt controlled media. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #7
Me too! Now I want England to win. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #2
That makes me feel old... Byronic Jul 2018 #9
It's so old that "30 years of hurt" is now itself 22 years old. Ron Obvious Jul 2018 #14
Hi C Moon syringis Jul 2018 #5
How about a Belgium/England final? peekaloo Jul 2018 #10
That's what I'm thinking mcar Jul 2018 #12
I think France has been the strongest team jcgoldie Jul 2018 #16
I like Croatia too mcar Jul 2018 #17
Hi Peekaloo syringis Jul 2018 #19
We shouldn't mix the russian people and the russian government. DetlefK Jul 2018 #6
Agreed Ron Obvious Jul 2018 #15
I don't hate the Russian people or hold them responsible for Putin's actions but.. jcgoldie Jul 2018 #18
I have a russian colleague... DetlefK Jul 2018 #20
republicans haz a sad Achilleaze Jul 2018 #8
guess they will not be invited to the white house now dembotoz Jul 2018 #11
Agreed GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #13
From Andrew Janz Gothmog Jul 2018 #21

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
1. I know how much this crushes Putin...
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 02:55 AM
Jul 2018

therefore I will celebrate HIS defeat, not the normal and decent Russians who hate his guts and love their country (sounds like the US, doesn't it).

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
3. Yeah. I added (but removed) "I feel for the Russian athletes."
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 03:33 AM
Jul 2018

I agree: if the country held an honest election, Putin would be ousted.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
4. If Russia held an honest election, Putin would be re-elected
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 04:23 AM
Jul 2018

Sorry to bust our bubbles, but:

Multiple American polls have found Putin’s approval rating to hover around 80 percent among the Russian public, including a recent study that aimed to adjust for any possibility that respondents have been lying to pollsters out of fear or social expectations.

A world that elects a Trump, would also elect a Putin. We need to change the world!

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
7. Much of that is due to the govt controlled media.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 04:58 AM
Jul 2018

They are sort of in between N Korea and the US with Fux Ruse...state sponsored propaganda.

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
2. Me too! Now I want England to win.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 03:25 AM
Jul 2018

How can can anyone not, after listening to this song?




"30 years of hurt..."

Byronic

(504 posts)
9. That makes me feel old...
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:03 AM
Jul 2018

It's 52 years of hurt now.

I love the 'It's Coming Home' memes that are sweeping the internet. England were completely written off by everyone (including their own fans) at the start of the tournament, with the 'it's coming home' used in a completely ironic way. But they are still going...




but my favourite is this one:



 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
14. It's so old that "30 years of hurt" is now itself 22 years old.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:00 AM
Jul 2018

For some reason that make me feel older still.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
10. How about a Belgium/England final?
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:27 AM
Jul 2018

I hope I got the pairings correct. I'm not a big football fan but the Belgium/Japan game was the best match I've seen, so far. Kinda rooting for England though.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
12. That's what I'm thinking
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jul 2018

Belgium and England seem to have the strongest teams. It'll be a great semi and final round!

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
16. I think France has been the strongest team
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jul 2018

They have pretty much dominated while the two you mentioned have been hot and cold just based on the games I've seen, which is quite a few. I'm rooting for Croatia. I really like that little Modric who may be the player of the tournament and the fact that they only have like 4 million people.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
17. I like Croatia too
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jul 2018

I don't really have a favorite in the final four. I'm just glad things are shaken up a bit - and that Russia is out!

syringis

(5,101 posts)
19. Hi Peekaloo
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jul 2018

Why not ?

Besides football, I wish our British friends will find a way to get over that f*cking Brexit !!

I don't want them to leave ! Especially now that we are almost sure the referendum was rigged !

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. We shouldn't mix the russian people and the russian government.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 04:56 AM
Jul 2018

Just because you don't like a government, you shouldn't summarily hate on the people.



From the point of view of sports, Croatia was the stronger team. That was visible from the second half to the end. They kept the Russians on defense and won most one-on-one fights for the ball.

And then, when it was decided by penalty in the end, one russian player decided to be too clever by half and shoot a kick that goes not to the middle and not to the corner but to somewhere inbetween. And the other Russian tried to go too hard for the corner: He kicked the ball at a slightly wrong angle, and it missed the goal altogether.



The croatian team was slightly better, and the russian team was too pumped with enthusiasm and made preventable mistakes.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
15. Agreed
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:03 AM
Jul 2018

The Russians played their hearts out and VASTLY exceeded expectations in this World Cup. Almost nobody in Russia even expected them to get out their group.

This gloating by people who almost certainly don't care about the sport is unseemly.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
18. I don't hate the Russian people or hold them responsible for Putin's actions but..
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jul 2018

I was rooting strongly against Russia despite their underdog status because Putin is the beneficiary of their success. I have read a couple articles about how Putin's popularity has been partly tied to perceived national sports success. He was widely credited with Russian domination in the Sochi games, then humiliated by the doping scandals that stripped them of participating under their flag last year. If Russia had continued success in the World Cup, Putin would have taken the political credit deserved or not.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
20. I have a russian colleague...
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jul 2018

He said, he cannot watch russian coverage of the world championship. He said, the russian coverage so bloated with nationalism and propaganda, it's ridiculous.

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