BLACK WOMEN LEADERS AND ALLIES' GROUP CONDEMNS SCHUMER, PELOSI

[Civic Justice]

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Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) [link:http://|said] Sunday she was surprised to see Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) criticize her for advocating publicly confronting Trump Cabinet officials, but noted that political leaders "will do anything that they think is necessary to protect their leadership.”

Pelosi Condemns Maxine Waters’ Call for Protests against Administration Officials

Black Voters have been 'dedicated Democrats", they don't waver like the Moderate White People, and They Uphold and Promote the Values of the Democratic Party, in "Equality In ALL Things".... there is no confusion of black people trying to protect and preserve any aspect of privilege for the white, but sadly there are many white people who are trying to protect as much of white privilege as they can, and some want to cling to a subliminal belief in white superiority.

Now... if "All" people who claim to be Liberal, had the devotion to ""Equality In ALL Things" - there would be no divides and no confusion with the Democratic system nor would there be a distribution being spread across the far left liberal spectrum. We would not have people "sitting on the fence"... only thinking of themselves.

People are beginning to ask question's and the questions they are driven to ask may gain others to inquire,, especially if all of the Liberal Democrats stood and and spoke out on any and all forms and manners of race bias, racism and stood against the idea and premise of "white privilege" and stood for the abolition of "white privilege". Sadly, even in this site, which I think is likely populated by older people close to and within the baby boom era.. they don't and won't get into discussions about racism and discrimination, or white privilege.
It was something they grew up, being told not to discuss. Because any discussion might upset the white people apple cart of being content with the conditions, because the conditions did not disadvantage them, but more so gave them advantage.

So now, we have across the broad variables that make up the Democratic Party, a very mixed group, that in some ways lack the universal basis of belief of "Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People"... We have the capitalist who believe in elements of the Conservative ideals of "wealth rules" and survival of the well to do, which supersedes the "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..
Because there is as Much OLD MONEY made from generations before and pass on over generations within the Liberal hands, as well as we know its in the hands of the Conservatives.

If as American Liberal People, we don't find a means and way to build the unity, that has a foundation and structure that matters, and we all come to support of. "Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..
We will struggle continually with our unified message, and we will struggle with gaining the public narrative, and we will struggle with understanding the fullness of our constituency.

BLACK WOMEN LEADERS AND ALLIES’ GROUP CONDEMNS SCHUMER, PELOSI

One thing people should know.. is black women have many positions across this nation and work in many organizations, that serve all demographic's of people, and they have influence in more ways than America wants to give credit and truly acknowledge.
One should go and read the history about women in America, it might enlighten some to the determination of women.

The world will change !!! We see in South Korea, they are in an uproar about immigrants, we see it across various part of every Continent.

What mankind has to figure out is... STOP RAPING NATIONS and the Nations People... the only way to manage immigration is to have "systems that use universal rules of law" to govern... and for "industry in all nations to invest in their nation and get their people to working. That's only a issue for people who DON'T believe in.. "Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..

If we want to spread Democracy and bond it in this United States and then to create the Model where Other Nations, WANT to emulate it... then we have to united with a simple understanding ... and that understanding is:
"Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..

If we start fraying now... its like a leak in a dike, before long the dike collapses.

Maybe someone should do a poll, and ask people to be "honest".. then ask the question, "how many people are willing to give up on any and all fragments of "white privilege"...? Then ask the second question: How many are willing to give up on any and all fragments of "gender bias"? Then we get to the guts of the matter and find out who is who?

We should have learned something from 2016, when people pulled the curtain and voted republican, it was not black men, nor black women in any large numbers that did that.. it was done by "white men and white women", and the media has continually addressed that point and fact.... so... getting pissed off because I'm addressing what many of you want to ignore... is your own issue... and you need to find your own answer for your own anguish... if you claim you are such a die hard Devotee...

Then what does that mean? and why aren't you willing to explain and share the explanation of what drives you to support the party and its platform?

I don't have a doubt about what I support... I support:
"Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..
And I'm willing to talk about any aspect of why I support it, as well as what values within the elements of what I support, and I'm willing to invest time to write out the thoughts, and share the inquiry, information and interactions about it....

[TheRealNorth]

1. Why are you citing the Daily Caller and National Review??

Makes me wonder.....

[NCTraveler]

3. Brought to you by the National Review and Daily Caller.

WTF.

[EricJohnson]

4. I agree that those are not legitimate sources but I think the point here

is that Rep Waters is calling for people to speak out about the atrocities of the Trump admin. I think that's a good thing and wonder why Sen Schumer and Rep Pelosi are trying to shut her down. I don't think that will help Democrats in Nov.

[NCTraveler]

5. The point for me is going to right wing extremists in order to attack Democrats.

And the fact that it is a trend.

None of it amounts to shit.

"I think that's a good thing and wonder why Sen Schumer and Rep Pelosi are trying to shut her down."

They aren't trying to shut her down. That is a lie. They are trying to herd cats. In this instance, they simply went too far. That amounts to just about nothing.

[LanternWaste]

6. I think another point here is the consistent narrative by returning members.

Narratives illustrating and pointing out alleged 'divisions' within the party. "I don't think that will help Democrats in Nov." either.

(rarely is there ever simply one point...)

[EricJohnson]

9. "The recent public shaming of Trump administration officials in restaurants has triggered an

internal debate among Democrats over how far they should go in confronting the president and his policies." (LA Times) I stand with Rep Waters.

[Civic Justice]

21. I agree with Waters too!!!!

many of these whiny ass people can't think the minute they see the words "white people"....

Thank goodness we have people like Waters, with the guts and devotion to say exactly what the hell she thinks.
Half the people in this site, run from anything that actually deal with the real reality of why we need people like Waters.

We got too many people who still this day, do the same dumb stupid stuff they did all during segregation, is sit there with their mouth shut.

MLK Addressed them long ago, and they still don't get it. I met a white man today, who goes to the council and other public meeting and he can and he does recite the Constitution and MLK Speeches from memory...

MLK said:

In “Letter From a Birmingham Jail,” King offered a scathing critique of “white moderates” unwilling to do the right thing that still resonates today:

He wrote:

"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

To read the whole letter, which is archived at Stanford University’s Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute, go here. Or you can listen to a recording of King reading the letter here.

I've written more stuff that expresses my support for Democratic Ideals and About Many things that make up what those Ideas stand for... while most of the whining and crying types are trying to get high on, having 100's of post with one line sarcasm, just to say they have post count.

I don't give a damn about post counts. I care about Democratic Commentary that can inspire THINKING people to create commentary, and HELP drive democratic narrative.... I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over to people who chose to be obtuse and obstinate and think they can move the world with sarcasms and puns. Republican walk right over that trash and keep doing what they are doing. Because many of you can't figure out, if you want to draw more people to the Party and Push the message, you have to create content that people can talk about, and content that inspires or even incite them to want to talk about it. But, Just as MLK said...

the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.

some of you don't even get the message out to Republican about racism, beause you don't say a damn thing, so republican response to you is... you talk about racism but don't get down to it and actually back up against it, because you are too afraid to talk about the reality of what it is, and to non motivated to write or talk about the multitude of way racism exist and how it function and why it is embedded in them, and how it got embedded in them to exist. You want to tell them they are racist, but you don't want to take the time to explain to them "HOW" they are racist. If you can't tell them "How" they are racist, then you calling them a racist means not a damn thing to them, and they keep showing you that.

The only time they figure it out is when they say some dumb crap and get slapped in the purse, and they issue a crap apology, only for the sake to get back on the money train they were riding.

I used the word savage... but I took time to explain what a Savage is....

In case people don't know what or how to define a savage:

SAVAGE = (RACIST WHITE PEOPLE) = member of a people regarded as primitive and uncivilized, violent, uncontrolled barbarians (a ferocity or mercilessness regarded as unworthy of civilized people), lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings, lacking complex or advanced culture, extreme fierceness and unrestrained violence and brutality .

I use the word of the bible' wisdom... and take time to depict it... The Vanity of Gain and Honor and most of you gloss right over it.... when it is 100% Advocacy about being of a Democratic Mind and Conviction....

so you coming to this post trying to sling out your ignorance about me not being for Democratic Values, only shows your lack of comprehension and lack of willingness to read, and think....

We draw more people by giving the people, young and old some things to think about, to consider and to make subject matter....within the ongoing promotion of Democratic Ideals...

All some of you want to do is push sarcasm and pun, and praise yourself to the point, you can't invest in dialog and too stubborn to create commentary.

[ehrnst]

70. One can stand with either Waters or Booker/Pelosi/Sanders

And be a Democrat.

There is room for both without a divorce...

[Civic Justice]

16. Well... we better find more than just "I hate Trump"

because it not all about Trump, its congress people, city, local, regional and state level administrators, jurist and citizens in general....
and we continue to see republican rack up votes in every kind and level of election...

So... if you blind yourself to that... then you blind yourself to the value and what it takes to promote public commentary and pursue gaining public narrative dominance.

[malaise]

7. Divide and rule

Ah Wellbutrin- enough already.

[Hortensis]

8. Imo, you're doomed to disappointment, Civic Justice,

or rather whoever you're cutting and pasting this attack from, if they think the monolithic black coalition is too stupid to realize these for the attacks ON THEM that they are. Black voters exist as the powerful bloc they are because of EXTERNAL PRESSURE, which the white supremacy dominating the Republican Party has increased geometrically in the last 2 years.

(CAPS added for emphasis since you apparently like them, btw. Enjoy.)

[yardwork]

10. Your thread title is not supported by the contents of your post.

Very dishonest thread title, imo.

[irisblue]

11. Daily Caller is a RW source

You sure you want to use it?

[mcar]

12. What is this right wing tripe doing on DU?

[EricJohnson]

13. I agree it has no place here. Do you support Rep Pelosi and Sen Schumer

of do you think Rep Waters is correct. I support Rep Waters. Scott Pruitt resigned from the EPA today and said it was because he was getting accosted by people in his personal life.

[mcar]

14. I support Democrats. Period.

All of them. Anything else is divisive ratfcking.

[bdamomma]

24. me too

I support Democrats, esp. Maxine Waters, she gets it and speaks her mind. No divisiveness of Democrats should be posted on this board. We are too focus on this fight and get these SOB's out and we all need to vote in November.

We need to unite.

[EricJohnson]

29. I so agree we need to unite and that's why I am disappointed in Sen Schumer and

Rep Pelosi. They should stand behind Rep Waters and show a united front. Rep Waters is right that we need to stand up to the Trump officials.

[sheshe2]

54. Well here ya go then....Pelosi

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210834172


Pelosi slams Trump's 'despicable attacks' on Waters at rally

Pelosi slams Trump's 'despicable attacks' on Waters at rally
By Emily Birnbaum - 07/05/18 08:33 PM EDT


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) slammed President Trump over his comments about Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) during a rally on Thursday night.

Trump at the campaign-style rally in Montana called Waters a “low-IQ individual,” a claim that he has repeated many times. He speculated her IQ is “somewhere in the mid-60s.”

The average IQ is 85-114, and a mid-60s IQ indicates mental challenges.

“.@realDonaldTrump, instead of making despicable attacks on @RepMaxineWaters, why don’t you focus on reuniting the children you put into cages back with their families?” Pelosi tweeted Thursday night. “It’s been 9 days since a federal judge ordered you to. #FamiliesBelongTogether.”


Trump also took shots at Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) at his rally Thursday night, while calling Waters – a vocal Trump critic who has called for his impeachment – “the new leader of the Democrat Party.”

more...

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/395737-pelosi-slams-trumps-despicable-attacks-on-waters-at-rally
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[ehrnst]

71. How about Corey Booker and Bernie Sanders?

You haven't mentioned that you are disappointed in them for breaking with Waters.

[EricJohnson]

73. Do I have to go thru the entire list? And as far as I know Sen Sanders

hasn't broken with Waters. Do you have a source?

[ehrnst]

74. You seem to stop at criticizing Pelosi and Schumer.

Perhaps you haven't heard about Bernie coming down on the side of Sarah Sanders Huckabee and against the owner of the Red Hen?

https://www.eater.com/2018/6/27/17511158/bernie-sanders-trump-administration-restaurants-red-hen-sarah-huckabee-sanders

Sanders’s views fall in stark contrast to those of California Democratic Representative Maxine Waters, who called on supporters to make Trump officials feel unwelcome in public spaces over the weekend. “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them,” she said during a rally, “and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

He's stated that confrontation is not the way to deal with the GOP in many circumstances since the election.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/bernie-sanders-donald-trump/508007/


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-healthcare-sanders-idUSKBN1820QC

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2017/04/bernie-sanders-defends-ann-coulters-right-speak-berkeley.html


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326820-sanders-defends-trump-voters-i-dont-think-theyre-racists

So what do you think?

And Pelosi has indeed defended Maxine from Trump's disgusting comments, as per the groups in the OP wanted. So the issue with Nancy isn't really one anymore.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/395737-pelosi-slams-trumps-despicable-attacks-on-waters-at-rally

I think perhaps you might want to go and school people on the thread below....After all the author of the OP on this thread is flagged for review, so you won't be hearing from them any time soon.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210797976

[ehrnst]

82. Crickets...

Not surprised.

[EricJohnson]

25. Sounds like you support party unity, but think that ignoring the

current division will make it go away. I want to see a united Democratic Party. It's our only chance against Trumpet. We should be working for that unity and not ignoring it. Acknowledging it isn't causing it.

[Civic Justice]

28. they don't understand the truth.... and they cause damage by ignoring it.

[EricJohnson]

30. I think they recognize the truth but don't want to deal with it so they deny it.

[mcar]

35. The division is trumped up by those who want us divided

Pun intended. Shame on anyone who calls for it.

Vote for Democrats. Support Democrats. Anything else is ratfcking. Screw that.

[EricJohnson]

38. If that were true then why isn't the DCCC supporting progressive Democrats that win

primaries? Ignoring the problem won't make it go away. We were divided in 2016 and lost to Trumpet. We must unite.

[Wwcd]

48. They ARE supporting all Dems . Progressive, Socialist, dem progressive, dem socialist,

Socialist progressive, dem socialist progressive, dem progressive socialist,
Wtf The DCCC is funding, & joining with grassroots orgs that also support all of the above.

Wherever you get the lie that they aren't isn't someone who wants fascism to lose.

Maybe look deeper at your info source.
It is a flat out Lie.
And here it is repeated for the sole point of division

Calling bullshit on your post right here.

[LakeArenal]

43. I don't get divisiveness at DU

We all are Democrats, we will all vote Democraticly. Maybe some of us might not like or agree with an individual Dem, if they have the nomination then no matter what the “divide” is, we will vote. Flying a banner, holding our nose, just being on the right side of history. Whatever it takes to elect Democrats.

That’s part of my understanding of DU.

[mcar]

46. There. Is. No. Current. Division.

Reasonable people can disagree about things. That doesn't mean the division boogie man.

Stop feeding into the media and RW "Dems in disarray" canard. That is what hurts us.

Vote for Democrats. Support Democrats.

[EricJohnson]

58. Were you aware that some Democrats sued the DNC over irregularities at the 2016

convention? Were you aware that the two factions met in 2016 and agreed to have a Unity Reform Commission to sort out the differences between the two factions. You are aware that the DCCC supported Joe Crowley over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a primary election and now are backing away from supporting her in the general. Also some attributed the Democratic presidential loss in 2016 to the rift in the party. We need to find unity, but pretending it doesn't exist isnt the way.

[Cha]

59. I'd like to see some proof of that accusation at our Democratic Org..

"..and now are backing away from supporting her in the general"

BTW.. The lawsuit was bogus.. the Judge dismissed it.

[lapucelle]

61. Nobody sued the DNC over "irregularities at the 2016 convention".

The DCCC didn't support Crowley over AOC in the primary.

The DCCC is not backing away from supporting AOC in the general.

Where are you getting this stuff from?

[betsuni]

63. Eric, Son of John is wrong.

[lapucelle]

64. Why would anyone post factually incorrect, anti-Democratic Party talking points here? N/T

[betsuni]

65. Indeed.

[mcar]

66. Were you aware that the suit was thrown out?

Done with this nonsense. You go ahead with following this divisive narrative, I'll continue supporting and voting for Democrats.

[EricJohnson]

68. I've been a Democrat for a very long time and I also vote for Democrats

Yes the suit was thrown out but the suit made it clear that there was a division. Tom Perez acknowledge the division by calling for unity, going on a Unity Tour and establishing a Unity and Reform Commission. Ignoring these facts does nothing to bring unity. We desperately need unity. Admitting we need to get unified isn't divisive. Pretending we don't exacerbates the problem.

[JustAnotherGen]

69. We are unified

The ONLY place I'm really seeing this not be the case is in our Red Circles. Or - from key board warriors far far away.

Here on the ground in the 7th District - we all hate Trump and Lance and Hugin and are doing our Patriotic Duty as anti MAGAS to vanquish this evil from America.

You with us?

Or is calling the opposition and EVIL that must be vanquished too divisive?

(Play on The Great Gatsby here) I mean if we don't stop this now, before you know it you will have Republicans and Russians intermarrying and then WHERE will the world - let alone America be? The Horrors of Red Russians being everywhere. The horrors!

[Gothmog]

76. There was no division other than some JPR posters were were named plaintiffs in that case

I read the pleadings in this case and this case was a complete joke filed by idiots who are busy selling books to idiots who post on JPR. One of the more amusing claims is that donors are consumers under the District of Columbia Deceptive Trade Practices/Consumer Protection Act.

This idiot attorneys who filed this lawsuit are busy selling books to idiots who post on the JPR site.

[ehrnst]

80. Your concern is noted.

[betsuni]

83. LOL

[Gothmog]

75. I had fun reading the briefs in the appeal of this bogus case

This lawsuit was completely bogus and the briefs were amusing https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210544462

[ehrnst]

81. Interesting how this case gets often brought up by people who

exaggerate problems in their efforts to express "concern."

[Gothmog]

84. This is a really weak lawsuit that is being pushed to sell books to JPR types

[Gothmog]

77. I was a Clinton delegate to the National Convention

There was some division in that Sanders delegates were not vetted and were badly behaved. There was a planned stunt by the Sanders delegates to boo Congressman John Lewis. The Clinton campaign warned the delegates about this stunt well in advance. Sanders was told of the stunt and refused to try to control his delegates.

My daughter was my guest to the convention. A number of Sanders delegates yelled obscenities at her and called her the c-word because she woulds not try to get me to change my vote.

As for rift, sanders voters were targeted with Russian fake news and sufficient sanders voters stayed home or vote for stein so as to give trump the victory. Trump had the benefit of the Russia machine that convinced a number of voters to vote for stein or not vote. Go look at the JPR site and you will still see the Russian machine in operation Sanders supporters were targeted by Russia and judging from the studies posted above with great effect

Link to tweet

Again, sanders supporters were easily fooled by russian fake news and the studies cited above show this cost the election

Link to tweet

[ehrnst]

72. +1000. (nt)

[BannonsLiver]

67. Do you plan to "walk away"?

[ehrnst]

85. You believe Pruitt? He was told he was going to resign.

He was told he was going to resign.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/scott-pruitt-epa-resign-trump/564494/

You don't need to push Trump propaganda in order to defend Maxine Waters - so why are you doing it?

Edited to add: Oh, I see you have your posting privileges revoked. Color me surprised....

[Civic Justice]

15. CNN, Politico, The Hill, ABC, NBC and others are carrying these stories...

maybe some of you need to pay more attention to what is within the public arena of narratives? instead of always talking about what should not be.... if you think it right wing or whatever you think... you better learn what is within the atmosphere, not just what you think should be in the public arena.
How many of you even create any public commentary beyond sarcasm's? Do you try to say anything, beyond what can be pasted from a news story? Do you have any thoughts that are actually yours, that you are willing to take the time to write out, and try and address the elements that make of the Democratic Values?

Most of you talking about what should not be here, are the same people, who have nothing but critique and complain, when I've written many posting, with aims to urge, and even incite if necessary the need to create public commentary, so that we have a better chance to gain public narrative... and all you do is attack and sling sarcasm.

Just like some of your arse's got blindsided in 2016, because you refuse to hear, and won't listen or pursue to find out whats in the atmosphere, and then even if you do... you refuse to even create or promote narrative to push and speak about the details that make up the Democratic narrative. One even has the audacity to say the title of the post has nothing to do with the content, because they don't read the links...

There's another movement that is taking place, by some guy who claim he was former democrats, who said, the democrats no longer promote a message, all they push is "I hate Trump", and he started a advocacy groups that will take some members away from Democrats...

So... stop being thin skin and complaining and think!!! and if you don't like whats said... then create your own commentary!! by now some of you who detest the idea and thought of creating commentary, do nothing but attack stuff, because some only want the drama of slap stick sarcasm, and puns.... when slap stick and pun and sarcasm is not going to win a darn thing.

What's happening in society today, has not time for a bunch of people looking to be patronized and having their butts kissed... It's about... who is dedicated and who is not!!! who is willing to stand up for the same things I put in the OP..
"Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All"..

Either figure out what you truly are about... or go on about your business of puns and sarcasm and blind yourself to the forces that stand against the Democracy you say you claim to support.

If you don't know what your adversary is capable of, and what is within the frames of mindset of your adversary, then you might become the cause of defeat by lack of awareness of what one is up against... and some don't know how far they are willing to go to support ""Equality in ALL Things, For ALL People" + "Economic Opportunity For Economic Equilibrium For All".. "

We have many people with many ideas, and if some of you actually read more and not just what tickles your fancy, you'd know more of such... of what exist in the broad ranges of public narratives.

We have many many people who are influenced by what is in the public arena, because a lot of people don't read for themselves, and some don't have the patience to read anything over three lines of text.... so there are many who are influenced by public drama, spins and what spread across the spectrum as narratives.

This little small group who come here is only a microcosm, that does not depict or even address the massive issues that exist across the broader spectrum of Democratic Minds, or even the general public mindset. It's as if some are so high one themselves, they can't convince themselves to understand that the democratic spectrum is filled with far more people with many varying aspects of anguish, and many want more address of what concerns them, and what can benefit them within and of, by and through the democratic party. if people did know that and gain and have understanding, they'd be creating narrative to talk about the stuff that a great many have many varying concerns about.

I've sent people the link to this site, and they instantly became perturbed with the litany of one liner slap stick.. and ask, when do the Democratic claiming people actually talk about things. Hell, if someone posted an expose about BLM half these people would not even comment, and most would not even read it. If it talked about police shooting unarmed black people, or unarmed white people for that matter, most would do nothing but post sarcasm, and never indulge to discuss the underlying elements.

So... don't tell me what should or should not be here... pay attention more to the broader reality of what exist in the broader society.
Then maybe we can gain enough focus to find better ways to unify people with the multitudes of concerns and issues that need to be addressed.... That's how people bond and support and gain the drive to get out and vote.

Geez!!!!!!!!!!!!

[emulatorloo]

17. Geez yourself. Stop trying to send web traffic to egregious right-wing sites that exist to destroy

Democrats.

The more clicks they get, the more money they can charge for ads. Not interested in seeing those assholes make money on the backs of DU’ers.

Find better sources and don’t promote right-wing extremists and fucking right-wing websites on DU.

[emulatorloo]

20. You are too busy making up excuses for why you drug that shit here.

You need to own your very poor judgement and stop trying to smear others as ‘uninformed’ because they justifiably find your use of unacceptable right-wing sources unacceptable.

[lapucelle]

37. Do you have links to the stories claiming

that

"Pelosi Condemns Maxine Waters’ Call for Protests against Administration Officials"

or that

"‘Black Women Leaders and Allies’ Group Condemn Schumer, Pelosi"

from CNN, ABC, NBC or Politico?

[EricJohnson]

42. "Black female leaders criticize Pelosi, Schumer for 'failure to protect' Waters"

I am not a fan of Politico but since you mentioned it:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/04/black-female-leaders-waters-pelosi-schumer-trump-693967

Sen Schumer and Rep Pelosi were wrong to turn on fellow Democrat Rep Waters. Don't you agree? Not good for party unity right before an important election.

[GulfCoast66]

49. Turn on her?

They were asked their opinion on confronting our political opponents is public places like restaurants and such. They think it is counter productive and makes us look rude. Potentially threatening our slim chance to capture one of the houses of Congress. I agree with them.

Should they have lied? It is bad politics. You may disagree. But that is no attack.

[lapucelle]

50. Yes, but you chose the framing that says "condemn" not "criticize".

And that framing is a distortion.

[NCTraveler]

62. Yet your first stop is...

[Takket]

18. Putin is laughing his ass off right now.............

[Civic Justice]

22. if he is, its because of one liner slap stick and sarcasm silliness....

and people thinking doing so is going to win them something.

Issue matter!!!! Russian have proven they don't go for that silliness, of sarcasm and puns, and Trump keeps showing you he brush that crap off and keep doing what he is doing. They see that cycle, and all they know they have to do is create a "drama situation" and people will rush up with sarcasm and puns, as if their mind is frozen and they can't think to create enough commentary to dispel the drama and replace it with something of substance that people can turn into commentary to gain some ground in promoting democratic narrative... and they go on and change policy everyday.... and all you do is show him.. that people are hung up on one liners and sarcasm, and blinded by it... to the point.. after they sling it, all they do is wait for the next drama sequence, and can't even remember what has them spinning last week.

People respond to summary dialog that outlines what and how they stand against something, and they follow it up with explaining not only what they stand for, but how the ideals are framed and what support the framing of having such ideals... and it damn sure ain't one liner sarcasm.

so, you do what you do, and I'll do what I do... If you can win and draw people with it, do it... I prefer to give people things to think and talk about, and links to information they can learn from and reference. Democracy is more than a whim, and what exist that drives the need for Democracy is a multitude of things, that MUST BE discussed and communicated about, to bond people to understand and embrace as well as to expand upon what supports and promote the values.

[EricJohnson]

44. Yes most likely he is because top Democrats are telling Rep Waters to

back off on Trump.

[GulfCoast66]

51. No. They are telling all of us they do not agree with being rude to people while they are eating.

Good Democrats can disagree without it being an attack.

I think confronting administration officials makes may of we frustrated liberals feel good. I also think it diminishes our electoral chances.

We disagree. I still think you are a well meaning democrat. But I will not squelch my opinion to make you feel better.

[redstateblues]

26. The old "let's you and him fight"

The old circular firing squad

[GoCubsGo]

31. Yep. Just more "Let's divide the Democrats" shit.

Trashing this thread, and putting its author on ignore.

[spooky3]

32. OP has been FFRd. Nt

[GoCubsGo]

33. Good. Thank you.

[Wwcd]

36. Why hasn't this Kremlin sourced thread post been removed.

Can't believe its still here.

Its not who we are. Pure RU trolling divisive gamesmanship.

Weren't we just warned of this very thing?

[Hekate]

45. Well, since it's FFR'd maybe so we can rejoice at its imminent demise...

As for leaving things up, Comrade Troll's "let's have a civil war" post never did get taken down afaik, despite several alerts I know of.

[Hekate]

40. About damn time. First came to my notice by calling for a real civil war. "Civic Justice" my ass. nt

[Wwcd]

34. Rw Kooky Sources..and look who's recc'ing this divisive RW sourced BS

Chumps.
We all see who you are.

Most divisive RW sourced posting ever. Should be ashamed of yourselves..
This sounds more like the Russian divide the Democrats type of trolling. Some drank it right up!

Trash thread

[Renew Deal]

39. Daily Caller and National Republican Online?

[Wwcd]

41. Good Bye & Good Luck, wherever your path leads you.

[Hekate]

53. Probably right back here with a new name, shortly

Damn troll

[Wwcd]

55. No shit. Post winner!

[Codeine]

47. Word salad.

You may or may not have ideas worth consideration, but there is no way of knowing because you bury your point in garbled, mangled syntax, incoherent sentences, and punctuation seemingly sprinkled in at random as an afterthought.

Your message was alerted on, and I served on the jury. I voted to leave it quite simply because it was such a mess I honestly couldn’t bring myself to deconstruct it to the degree necessary to actually make a judgement.

[still_one]

52. The Republican party and the Russinas would like to thank-you for doing the work for them in sowing

division among Democrats with hyperbolic rhetoric from right wing sources just before the November election

[Wwcd]

56. Pitiful that it's STILL here on DU. Proudly shown as a badge of honor to the Kremlin & the Repubs!

And look at all the high fives it got!

Thanks for making the RW Russians job a lot easier!

We were just warned that this shit was going to show up. The RW Kremlin /Koch trolls are laughing their asses off.

[gulliver]

57. Trump is a nutty clown.

[betsuni]

60. By the second paragraph my brains stopped me from continuing.

I do not think I missed anything by not reading this.

[RandySF]

78. The Daily Caller is a right wing publication

How are you not juried by this point?

[UCmeNdc]

79. This is right wing propaganda. It has some truth but a lot of spin added to divide the D. Party Base

Beware of anything produced by Right Wing Media talking about the Democratic Party positions on issues and its supposed divisions.