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Civic Justice

(870 posts)
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 05:52 PM Jul 2018

Chaos Eruption's Across The World - In the 21st Century

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Societies are coming to a point that - "Change is Inevitable"

The old history of acts and influences going back to the days of since Columbus Sailed... as white skin people began their "greed chase around the globe", encroaching and disrespecting the vast array of multicultural people, while in pursuit of material wealth and natural resources.... has reached a point of extremity in the absurdity of the absurd and vile devastation it was when the Europeans first began its encroachment upon this hemisphere of North and Central America.
Between the acts of Europeans and Spaniards... the devastation has not ceased in these regions for 100's of years.

Democracy was a Noble Idea and it Still Is.... the problem is, the framers thought it to be only for "white men", as it was only white men, they considered to be "person's".
Not even the white women among their ethnicity was considered to be Person, she was in practical purposes "Possessions"; they were Possession with a Duty and Function, which based itself in producing offspring's to be heir's and for pleasure and care taking of the man and the home, which meant her appearance was to be paraded liken to be a trophy possession.

Everywhere across European and Indigenous settlements in 17th- and 18th-century North America and the Caribbean, the law or legal practices shaped women’s status and conditioned their dependency, regardless of race, age, marital status, or place of birth. Historians have focused much of their attention on the legal status, powers, and experiences of women of European origin across the colonies and given great consideration to the law of domestic relations, the legal disabilities of coverture, and women’s experiences as plaintiffs and defendants, both civil and criminal, in colonial courts. Early American legalities, however, differed markedly for women of color—whether free, indentured, or enslaved, and whether Native or African in origin or descent—whose relationships to the legal regimes of early America were manifold and complex. In their status under the law, experiences at the bar, and, as a result, positions in household polities, women of color reckoned with a set of legalities that differed from those of their European counterparts. The diversity of women’s experiences of the law was shaped not only by race but also by region: Indigenous people had what one historian has labeled jurispractices, while Europeans brought and created a jurisprudence of race and status that shaped treatments of women of color across imperial spaces


Upon the European and Eastern European Continent and its Many Countries - the conflicts are centuries old. The one can look at the Middle East and the Far East and consider the divisions and conflict regions which still this day have many conflicting systems, where conflict rages across the expanse.

Man's Greed driven by his own vanity and gluttonous mindset wrapped within Mankind Egotist aims of Dominion... promoted by the Avarice encompassed mentality and slothful driven character has no end point; because Avarice (extreme greed for wealth or material gain) is the evilness that has shaped his consciousness and his consciousnesses drives his actions. No matter what cultural religious ideals man adopts, he seeks by any means the continual madness to think himself above and greater than God. Countless historical accounts has shown many of mankind to be driven with aims to Disavow the Ideals and Principles based upon God Premise. His actions continually demonstrate his aim to repudiate God. Man wants to be the Ruler of Other Mankind.

They have no concept to ingest the truer premise of why Rulers of a Land's was established, which was: Rulers of a Land's was established for the protections of the people and the advancement of civilizations within society.

Democracy was and is the best hope for mankind to build a peaceful world...

Democracy= a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. Government by the people; especially : rule of the majority. b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.

We have today... a government in America, that has become influenced by foreign adversaries and domestic adversaries against Democracy.... by the acts that seek Authoritarian Dominance through and by Autocratic Dictations.

We have descended even further into a culture of society that has morphed itself in many frames of ongoing Racism's Madness, (prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.)

The Human Being's natural nature and Natural inclinations is Democratic by the premise of God Principles, based on "Equality", which is substantiated by the basis of the "Golden Rule". The book of Matthew 7 tells us much.... if we only listen to hear and
awaken to understand.
Such has escaped many of Man, for Centuries and Generations, by and through Man's Greed driven by his own vanity and gluttonous mindset wrapped within Mankind Egotist aims of Dominion... promoted by the Avarice encompassed mentality and slothful driven character has no end point; because Avarice (extreme greed for wealth or material gain) is the evilness that has shaped his consciousness and his consciousnesses drives his actions.

Unless The Spirit Of Democracy is Reborn In Society Of Man, Chaos Eruptions will continue to span across the Globe. America is not immune, when Democracy is under attack and the assaults continue to erode its own system of democratic governance.


A New World Order - It must lead to the spread of Democracy, Globally.... or Chaos spreads like a flame that becomes a wildfire ( a sweeping and destructive conflagration)

We've seen Trump and Republican Idealist dismantle "Diplomacy" piece by piece and erode the Ambassadors who promote Diplomacy and install a destroyer in the office of Secretary of State. As well as infect the Courts of the Nation in a turn away from Democratic Policies and Principles of Democratically Structured System of Law and Justice. Replacing them with a Federalist Society of Conservative Promoting Justices, who aspire to the edicts of Confederacy and Antebellum Ideas, to institute a class and race divisiveness with race divisiveness within the classes, to be controlled by Authoritarian Premise, with the installation of the Wealthy as if to make a Monarchical Rule over the people.

It is seeking the closest and most vilest inhumanity of thing that can be made to provide the wealthy with a system as close like Slavery as it can achieve, because its led by people who never lost their lust for Slaves, it is a system that is worst than a system of Serfdom, it is more vile than a system of peasants, and as close to inhumanity of Slavery in every aspect of its pursuit to regress society to such inhumanity. It is the making of a system of "the indentured", under a new form of Race Based Autocracy, Interwoven with a Seizure of "The Poor"

What comes next? Everyone may consider to have concerns... who reside upon this earth. If each individual feels their life and the lives of their offspring's and their family and friends matters, then, the question becomes, what matter will they stand to support and promote?

Who among us chooses to be a bystander or participant in The Decline of Civility or a True Supporter in the Continuing Improvements in and of Our Democracy.

The question to ask one's self... is it "each individuals responsibility" or is it the responsibility of everyone else, excluding ones own self.
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Chaos Eruption's Across The World - In the 21st Century (Original Post) Civic Justice Jul 2018 OP
When people wonder how did we get to where we are... Civic Justice Jul 2018 #1
For those who seem not to Remember.... and those who don't want to remember... Civic Justice Jul 2018 #2
"Europeans and Spaniards"? trof Jul 2018 #3
what was written said: Between the acts of Europeans and Spaniards.. Civic Justice Jul 2018 #4
No. "AND" is what got me. trof Jul 2018 #5
the point was... Civic Justice Jul 2018 #6
You made a specious distinction. Blue_true Jul 2018 #8
look back at the laws that shaped America, Civic Justice Jul 2018 #9
I wasn't expecting the Spaniard Inquisition... First Speaker Jul 2018 #7
what kind of inquisition would you call the acts such as the .. Civic Justice Jul 2018 #10
 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
1. When people wonder how did we get to where we are...
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:36 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Sun Jul 1, 2018, 08:27 PM - Edit history (1)

..they only need to look within themselves and then consider the mindset of many, who are the responsible beings, who allowed the Republican to Overtake Congress, after the worst economic and social damage since the great depression of the late 1920's and then look at the war monger that raged across Europe during the reign of Hitler, and its comparison to the wars we created and spread across the Middle East under the leadership of Republicans.

We not allow allowed the Republicans to over take Congress, many became willing and some even driven participants in the Republican overtaking the Presidency, when the vile of Trump was present and visible to the world, before he was seated in the office.

Its the lack of real educational concerns to be learned and to learn more and become and be informed, enough to drive people to stand up and act, to protect democracy. We can see much in the microcosm of this site, with the lack of engagement and engagements that convey such limited of thought, beyond a defense trying to be managed by the usage of sarcasms and humor driven put down... and then to be angry, when its pointed out. But still not driven to read, and resentful of being asked to write and promote value based narrative that promote the Democratic Ideals.

Many do not much more than chase the same drama antic's as does the republican, only in this case, they seek out articles of republican vile, for the primary sake to issue a sarcastically derived comment, but no promotions of ideas, of the democratic Ideals, and absolutely limited concern for the necessity of promoting Democratically Promoting Commentary, to advance Democratic Narratives to the people. " It's more a weakness in conviction and a uncommitted promotion of democratic values.

As MLK said... a great danger is the Moderate White Society, as they can't make up their mind if they are for full equality based Democracy, or if they want to cling to the groomed in ideals that afford them white privilege.

He wrote:

(( "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word “Wait!” It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This “Wait” has almost always meant “Never.” We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”

We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights. The nations of Asia and Africa are moving with jet-like speed toward gaining political independence, but we still creep at horse and buggy pace toward gaining a cup of coffee at a lunch counter. Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, “Wait.” But when you have seen vicious mobs lynch your mothers and fathers at will and drown your sisters and brothers at whim; when you have seen hate filled policemen curse, kick and even kill your black brothers and sisters; when you see the vast majority of your twenty million Negro brothers smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society; when you suddenly find your tongue twisted and your speech stammering as you seek to explain to your six-year-old daughter why she can’t go to the public amusement park that has just been advertised on television, and see tears welling up in her eyes when she is told that Funtown is closed to colored children, and see ominous clouds of inferiority beginning to form in her little mental sky, and see her beginning to distort her personality by developing an unconscious bitterness toward white people; when you have to concoct an answer for a five-year-old son who is asking: “Daddy, why do white people treat colored people so mean?”; when you take a cross county drive and find it necessary to sleep night after night in the uncomfortable corners of your automobile because no motel will accept you; when you are humiliated day in and day out by nagging signs reading “white” and “colored”; when your first name becomes “nigger,” your middle name becomes “boy” (however old you are) and your last name becomes “John,” and your wife and mother are never given the respected title “Mrs.”; when you are harried by day and haunted by night by the fact that you are a Negro, living constantly at tiptoe stance, never quite knowing what to expect next, and are plagued with inner fears and outer resentments; when you are forever fighting a degenerating sense of “nobodiness” — then you will understand why we find it difficult to wait." ))


The Moderate Minded White Masses are a Damaging Danger within the Democratic Party... as they waffle, and become faint in their support with a conviction lacking in the necessary devotion and dedication to the full circle equality, as being the foundation of True and Real Democracy.

In “Letter From a Birmingham Jail,” King offered a scathing critique of “white moderates” unwilling to do the right thing that still resonates today:

He wrote:

"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

To read the whole letter, which is archived at Stanford University’s Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute, go here. Or you can listen to a recording of King reading the letter here.


Sadly, we saw them fall victim and become subjects of the Republican ideals and supporting of the Republican vile while they passively sat silent, and when in the voting booth, cast their vote for "white supremacist ignorance" and the vote aimed at protecting white privilege.

Therefore, its no great surprise at the level of silence and unwillingness to generate commentary and the avoidance of commentary that address such things and matters followed by the anguish at the very mention of generating commentary and making effort to promote it.

We watched yesterday as the voice of Maxine Water spoke, and the voice of her speaking earlier last week.

We watch on a weekly basis, the normalization of the Trump Authoritarian dictations, that become the make up of selective amnesia infection, as its covered over day by day, until people can't remember what their drama and sarcasm was focused on even a week before.

We see the softening against support for Mueller's Investigation, as well as we watch as the media now patronizes Trumps madness as victories. Still people have nothing more to say, than a one liner sarcastic comment, and they have appeased themselves with such, and the normalization of the acts that dismantle the governance and pervert the courts with conservative agenda, that is driven by Confederate Ideas and Antebellum styled reshaping of a nation... a few puns slung here and there, as it becomes nothing more than a form of acceptance with a glimmer of bicker, as they normalize the acts and changes into their daily lives.

Many are torn between the want to preserve white privilege and hang on to the subliminal idea of white supremacy, yet claim they want the system changing promotion of full circle equality, but cannot relinquish the historical groomed in ways of living within and by a system built to promote and function with white privilege as a societal process for 100's of years.

When President Obama spoke of "Change", when some realized that change included a move away from "white privilege" many turned away, and some backed away, and the result was many did not come out and vote to support a Democratic Congress which would have supported that process of "Change". We watched Democratic Politicians, become silent, and some leaned to the Right away from the Changes that were necessary, and refused to promote the message of Change.

When he was incessantly attacked by Republican at every turn, 'silence" and unwillingness to get out and vote by a mass of the Democratic electorate, became standard policy of conduct. This was further exacerbated by Democratic Congressional members adopting a position of silence, while others sided to appease the Republican system, and still others cowered down in fear that Republican may attack and or expose them for some misdeed in their past.

Its time to face what is of the many truths... that promote the weakness that has caused us to suffer the loss of Congress and the loss of the Office of Presidency, as well as to see us to have loss the Supreme Court, and to see the loss of Governorship's and State Congressional bodies, to Conservative Driven Dominance.

As Democrats we have much to face and in facing the much that there is, to make a determination to be true Democrats, or to continue in the ways that cost us and continue to cost in as Republican Reshapes American into their Confederate based ideals, and Antebellum ideology of social construct.

Among black people, there is no confusion about such things, as we know that the modern day republican, are not the republican who supported Civil Rights in the 1960's and they certainly are not the Republican of Lincoln's stand to free the slaves. Black people know too, that the Democratic Party of today, is not constructed of the ideals of the Southern Democrats of the 1960's... therefore.. there is no wavering of the Black Democrats, who have long fought and stood for Equality and promoted the principles of Equality as being the foundational core of what Promotes True Democracy.




 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
2. For those who seem not to Remember.... and those who don't want to remember...
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jul 2018
A wake up view of what we are dealing with"

Along with the changing our American Governance, and a Change in the American Justice System... Transforming America, into new modeling of most things the Confederacy sought to preserve and promote.
 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
4. what was written said: Between the acts of Europeans and Spaniards..
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jul 2018

did you overlook the words "Between" | "and" ?

Between= the space separating (two objects or regions).

and = used to introduce an addition

trof

(54,255 posts)
5. No. "AND" is what got me.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 08:03 PM
Jul 2018

It would imply that Spaniards aren't Europeans.
If they are, just say 'Europeans'.
It's like saying Great Britain and England.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
6. the point was...
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 08:16 PM
Jul 2018

Columbus came from Spain..... The bulk of US Emigrants came from various other parts of Europe.
That's why I made the distinction between Europeans and Spaniards.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. You made a specious distinction.
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jul 2018

Spain is in Europe. Spanish explorers went far afield in their exploration because England and France dominated everywhere near Europe.
You really lost me with why you had the first part of your treatise. What was the point (which you didn't seem to get to)? I can see an argument that because of subjugation of all else by European men, there are economic effects today that trace back to that domination.
Frankly I see global chaos happening only if ALL parts of the world have vast income inequality and the victims correctly arrive at that conclusion. But as long as there are lots of poor countries wanting development, corporations and hyper rich people will always have a place to move to where they will be safe.
The elite can cycle around almost endlessly, as long as future residents of once prosperous countries that the elite impovished don't connect the dots. China is a good case study. China at one time had one of the most advanced civilizations in the known world and traded with other societies far and wide while Europe was still medieval. Then Europe rose to dominance, colonized parts of China and promoted friction between China and it's powerful rival, Japan. China over several centuries regressed to a somewhat backward, onward looking society and stayed that way well into the 20th century.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
9. look back at the laws that shaped America,
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 10:26 PM
Jul 2018

Spain was a big player equally as you noted, in the expanse of their exploration, and did England, France who also instituted laws in early America; as well did the Catholic Church and Other Entities. These things shaped a great deal in the American Continent.
check out the piece on Women, Race and Laws... its very informative and expansive in very early history in America, and as you say, economic effects today, that trace back to that dominion.

(I insert links that address various factors to reflect upon the vast amount of referential info, that is not practically possible to cover in a forum commentary's script.)

I certainly do agree with your premise about the wealthy, and the history of

The elite can cycle around almost endlessly, as long as future residents of once prosperous countries that the elite impovished don't connect the dots. China is a good case study. China at one time had one of the most advanced civilizations in the known world and traded with other societies far and wide while Europe was still medieval. Then Europe rose to dominance, colonized parts of China and promoted friction between China and it's powerful rival, Japan. China over several centuries regressed to a somewhat backward, onward looking society and stayed that way well into the 20th century.


It takes this kind of information and learning for us as a society to see where we are, if we expect to have means and enacts frames and plan of means to improve the democracy we say we want.

Thank you for constructive commentary.
 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
10. what kind of inquisition would you call the acts such as the ..
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jul 2018

Muslim ban, and the incessant attack upon Spanish speaking heritage people from Mexico and Central America, including some who are themselves Americans, by naturalization, and other means of becoming American including through marriage and birth in America.

Could that be called a 21st Century "Racist, Religious and Ethnic (Inquisition)" = (( an official investigation, especially one of a political or religious nature, characterized by lack of regard for individual rights, prejudice on the part of the examiners, and recklessly cruel punishments.)) We even saw the generalized lack of regard for the people of Puerto Rico, a general spanish speaking territory.

Its happening this very day and time... under the guise of "immigration policies".

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