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H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:30 AM Jun 2018

"Look ...."

“Look what you made me do!”

In three decades of employment in human services, in a variety of positions, I found the above quote to be a signature line of cowardly, violent offenders. It was common among those spouses, partners, and parents, who sought to convince their victims that they – the victims – were entirely responsible for the offender's violence and cruelty. I think of that every time I hear Trump say that the Democrats are responsible for his separating children from their parents.

I also had numerous violent offenders say, “Yeah, but what about …...,” in weak attempts to shift the focus of our conversations. My response was simple: “We are not here to talk about what anyone else did or didn't do. We are only here to talk about you, and what we know you did.” That's the same thing that I would say to my children when they were young, and we discussed some misbehavior on their part. It's sad to see adults today using, or falling for, this type attempted distraction.

There was one fellow who attempted to justify his vile actions by self-righteously quoting bible verses. I did not need much time to evaluate this guy before making my recommendation to the court. I did, however, tell him that I hoped that he would consider reading the gospels while he was incarcerated. I have the same hope for Jeff Sessions.

The Trump administration's policy is the very definition of domestic abuse. It is unacceptable. It can not be blamed on the victims, or other people's previous actions. And it cannot be justified by bible quotes.

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"Look ...." (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2018 OP
everything about donnie screams abusive personality writ large. unblock Jun 2018 #1
Absolutely Me. Jun 2018 #2
Right. H2O Man Jun 2018 #3
Trump never takes responsibility PatSeg Jun 2018 #4
Yep. H2O Man Jun 2018 #6
He is getting more and more reckless now PatSeg Jun 2018 #8
I'm not a New Yorker & won't watch "reality" tv, so he was new to me when he started to campaign Hekate Jun 2018 #5
Important point: H2O Man Jun 2018 #7
I'm not a New Yorker either PatSeg Jun 2018 #9
My "early" memories H2O Man Jun 2018 #15
I just barely remember PatSeg Jun 2018 #21
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2018 #10
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2018 #16
Don the Con is a monster malaise Jun 2018 #11
Right. H2O Man Jun 2018 #17
We see this sort of evil in movies. It's a common formula for the bad guy. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #12
Yes, exactly! H2O Man Jun 2018 #19
Excellent observation H2O Man Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #13
Thanks, Uncle Joe! H2O Man Jun 2018 #20
Every day the cement shoes... Toorich Jun 2018 #14
k and r...thanks for posting...no text Stuart G Jun 2018 #18

unblock

(51,974 posts)
1. everything about donnie screams abusive personality writ large.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jun 2018

insulting everyone under the sun.

blaming everyone else for everything.

claiming to be the best at everything.

claiming to be the only one who can do anything right.

never apologizing for anything.

flipping out when he doesn't get whatever he wants.

flipping out over any sign of disrespect or disloyalty or "disobedience".

wanting to be as cruel as possible to anyone he objects to and taking glee in it.




all of this screams abusive husband, abusive father, abusive boss.

why on earth would anyone want this in a president??

Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. Absolutely
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jun 2018

the nation, sans his fellow abusers, is being abused every day by someone who cannot be anything other than mentally ill. I predict, going the way he is, that within the next year, his so-called frustration and anger will reach such a peak that he will have a complete meltdown and will have to be helped away.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
3. Right.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jun 2018

I'm hoping this recent example of obscene cruelty motivates people to get out and vote in November .....and to work hard between now and then, to organize others to register and vote.

It was reported on the news this morning that, in private, Trump believes this makes him "look tough." I think it exposes him as a weak, cowardly punk.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
4. Trump never takes responsibility
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

for anything, unless of course it is "great" and "tremendous". Also he is incapable of apologizing. There is always someone else to blame.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
6. Yep.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jun 2018

He lacks the moral-ethical capacity to admit when he is wrong. Instead, he looks to attack someone he is convinced cannot fight back.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
8. He is getting more and more reckless now
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jun 2018

And seems to be lashing out indiscriminately. He is attacking people who can and will fight back, much more effectively than he does.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
5. I'm not a New Yorker & won't watch "reality" tv, so he was new to me when he started to campaign
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jun 2018

Once the sheer over the top vulgarity of his escalator-announcement sank in, his other behaviors became clearer and he just gave me the creeps. He gives off a terrible vibe -- the dangerous bully, the man who hits women.

And it's just gotten worse since then.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
7. Important point:
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jun 2018

"And it's just gotten worse since then."

As long as he is in office, it can only get worse. The mid-terms offer an opportunity to decrease the pace, should Trump remain as president. But unless he is impeached, it will still continue to get worse.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
9. I'm not a New Yorker either
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jun 2018

and what I knew of Trump was just an occasional bizarre news clip about a man who was more of a caricature than a real person. I had a hard time understanding why such an oddity was even considered "news". There was a time not that long ago, that I couldn't imagine Trump running for higher office and certainly not winning.

I'm running out of adjectives for the man. None come close to describing the horror that is Donald Trump.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
15. My "early" memories
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:03 PM
Jun 2018

of Trump were from the 1980s, when he pimped for mob figures in promoting boxing. I thought he was a greedy asshole then. My opinion has not changed in any positive way, except that I see him as posing a severe risk to our country.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
21. I just barely remember
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:34 PM
Jun 2018

him as being a tabloid personality and as I didn't read tabloids, I knew little about him, until the past ten to fifteen years. To me he was like a character out of a B movie. I still can't believe he sold himself to so many people. It was no secret what kind of a person he was and still is.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. We see this sort of evil in movies. It's a common formula for the bad guy.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jun 2018

He takes the hero's kid or wife, holds a gun to their head, and demands the hero do something, or he'll kill the wife/kid. "Don't make me do it," the evil guy says. "If you don't do what I told you, I'll kill 'em. And it'll be YOUR fault."

That's what Trump said, more or less. He'll continuing abusing these children, unless the Democrats do what he says. If they don't, then it's THEIR fault that he's abusing children.

Toorich

(391 posts)
14. Every day the cement shoes...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jun 2018

.... harden around the reThug's feet. But, the Democrats MUST start fighting for every available
state house, senate seat and governorship, every city council and school board seat. Any and every elective office
until well and sane people take back our Country.
Skeletons in my closet have caused me not to run for any office. But if the shameless, the disgusting, and convicted felons
on the ballots with "R" after their names can run and win, hell, I might be perfect for the job.

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