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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:49 AM
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Misguided elderly woman buys gun after attack.
Becomes rude toter vigilante cowboy wannabe with one gun strapped to her body.


http://www.wistv.com/story/13280110/if-he-comes-after-me-again-im-going-to-shoot-him

Even though her physical wounds have healed, Christine has a painful memory to deal with, "I think about it a lot, but I am a very strong person, I'm not going to let this dictate my life, but it has changed my life," she said.

She says if her attacker comes back, instead of him looking down on her, he'll be looking into her barrel. "If anyone tries to do this to me again I will shoot them, no bones about it I will shoot them."


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We know this woman is out for revenge, just looking to play cowgirl, should the elderly vigilante rule be applied here? Shouldn't there be a law against victims acquiring guns after an attack/robbery?

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:51 AM
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1. not worthy of thought
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:21 PM
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38. You thought about it; you're here. nt
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:58 AM
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2. Discuss it with yourself
You don't wanna know what I think of your opinion.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:09 AM
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3. bizarre post.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:28 AM
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6. Actually it is quite well done
satirizing multiple antis in one post. I assume you are not reading here enough to recognize that.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:25 AM
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12. no, i am not that familiar with the inner workings of this particular forum...
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:32 AM
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15. It's a riot after you learn all the characters.
It really is the funnest fun forum on the innerwebs.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:38 PM
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34. Stick around & read posts like "what's your 'go to' gun in natural disasters like Hurricane Irene?"
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 01:39 PM by Hoyt
Those that respond to such threads like to call themselves "progressives." I never thought of preparing to shoot fleeing victims of a natural disaster such as Irene, Katrina, etc., a progressive idea. But apparently some here do.

Then you get "serious" questions from the pro-guns-in-public "culture" like -- "What's wrong carrying a gun or two into a public park, on public streets, into churches and restaurants, and the like?"

It's an interesting forum, with some really unique views on our society in the 21st Century.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 07:20 PM
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43. Those that respond to such threads like to call themselves "progressives."
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 07:24 PM by Tuesday Afternoon
uhm....probably because THEY are progressives.

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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:02 AM
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46. "preparing to shoot fleeing victims of a natural disaster"
If you can cite this, do so, and I'll alert the mods of that user at once.

Otherwise, withdraw your vile accusation immediately.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:04 AM
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47. "What's wrong carrying a gun or two into a public park, on public streets,...
...into churches and restaurants, and the like?"

Explain what is wrong with doing so. You have notably failed to do so.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:00 AM
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49. 10 hours, the clock is ticking.... n/t
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:54 AM
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50.  Don't hold your breath for an answer. He normally posts, runs, and posts again.
He does not answer questions that he has to even remotely think about, they scare him.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:56 AM
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51. Whoa, straw-man fu is strong with this one.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:27 PM
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39. This is the place to be if you want to see the face of...
raw prohibitionism -- sort of like what Ken Burns' documentary "Prohibition" revealed -- and cultural and regional bigotry. I have never been in a forum which regularly holds in ill repute some 80,000,000+ Americans.

"Rude toters" is a character. So is another who thinks some of the above millions are always "strapping on one or two." Then there are those who bristle as source citation which includes Fox, but have no problem using Brady Center data (an organization founded and led to this very day by GOPers). And of course the endless discussion about penis length or the lack thereof, and its relationship to gun "toting."

Quite a good show, coming from a "progressive" web site.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 07:49 PM
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44. Yep, guns in public are such a fine "progressive" cause.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:21 AM
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27. Presactly
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:14 AM
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4. Guns are bad news for women.
What we need is a Solution.

lookatmeblog

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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:21 AM
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5. +1
:rofl:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:29 AM
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7. Private firearms for self defense is a progressive value and an excellent thing for women
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 09:29 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:41 AM
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8. Maybe they're bad news re: the elderly then? nt
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 09:42 AM by jmg257
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:42 AM
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9. Actually no.
Private firearms for self defense is a Conservative value is not a very good thing for women because by the time they find the gun in their purse, they've already been assaulted and the assaulter is long gone, usually with their victim's gun.

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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:44 AM
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10. What if they don't carry them in their purses? Is it Ok then? nt
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We_Have_A_Problem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:28 AM
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14. Did you forget the sarcasm tag?
Or are you really that uninformed?
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:33 AM
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16. sarcasm tags are for suckers.
:sarcasm: :hi:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:33 AM
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17. Your assumptions are overly restictive and unwarranted
Self Defense for individuals by the individual is clearly progressive.

Your assumption of CCW only in a purse is silly and ignores many other scenarios.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:38 AM
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18. You seem to make a lot of assumptions in one sentance.
I'm sure you have some statistically significant numbers to demonstrate the validity of your claim, amIrite?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:49 AM
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19. Those that think everyone should be armed make a lot of assumptions also
Hand guns are the problem. More hand guns are not the answer. The more legal hand guns there are, the more hand guns the bad guys have access to. That is a fact.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:51 AM
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21. So what? Where's your concern for all the other items used in crimes? n/t
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:55 AM
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22. When you find someone who thinks everyone should be armed,
be sure to take that up with them.
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We_Have_A_Problem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:58 AM
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23. Do you have any evidence of anyone...
...saying everyone should be armed?

None? Why am I not surprised....


Once again, an anti makes a false claim...and you wonder why your side is getting ass-raped...
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:55 AM
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29. They don't have access to mine....that is unless
I'm considered the bad guy...I mean, I know some people here consider anyone with a gun the bad guy, some even consider any gun owner either a criminal or a soon to be criminal. Some consider anyone that's willing to fight and not bend over, the bad guy...Criminals are the problem, society needs to make itself less inviting to the bad elements that walk the streets. To some this woman is just an elderly old bat with a gun, someone that should be disarmed. Some want her to armor up and fight the good fight.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:34 PM
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41. "...everyone should be armed..." That is reactionary, Get ye to another forum. nt
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:54 AM
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28. Actually the secret is for the lady to have the gun in her hand in the purse ...
as she walks anywhere that is dangerous.

Then if she is attacked she simply points the purse at the attacker and shoots through it.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:36 PM
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33. My mother has a purse like that. There is also a warranty that if
you ever have to shoot through the purse they will replace if for free.
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:13 PM
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37. So does my wife and grown daughters
That is why they carry hammerless, jam free revolvers in their purses with a spare speed loader.

Semper Fi,
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:32 PM
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40. I you ever choose to rob a woman of her firearm, don't try her purse...
...it probably ain't there.

"Private firearms for self-defense is a Conservative value is not a very good thing for women..."

Actually, gun-control didn't even make it into the Democratic Party Platform until some years after the Zombies charted. And just how progressive is it to proscribe what is "good" or "not good" for women? Who are you?
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:00 AM
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52. Females....
clearly incapable of competent weapon retention because they...carry purses?

Are you familiar with the old robot saying "does not compute"?
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:26 AM
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13. Oh dear, Are you a Liberal, Progressive, Democrat, or democrat.


My goodness explain to me your politics...


I could see Sharon Angle saying this because we know her political views, but a fellow DUer? You're not supposed to think like that. So I must ask that you admit to being a teabagger. Guns kill people.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:05 AM
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11. What you did there, I see it!
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:29 PM
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31. ROFLcopter
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:06 PM
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36. LOL (n/t)
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:33 PM
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32. That was funny.
I really did lol.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 10:50 AM
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20. She should have just accepted her beating and given the theif what he wanted!
Come on, ileus, aren't you keeping up with the memos?

Ms. Hollar should not have fought back. She should have just given the armed criminal her purse and submitted to the beating he gave her and been thankful to come out of it all with her life.

Doesn't Ms. Hollar know that the contents of her purse are not worth anyone's life? What's a little beating compared to that misunderstood, pistol-wielding attacker's life?


Ms. Hollar has learned her lesson the hard way. Without a gun, when confronted with a violent attacker you only have three choices: Run, submit, or engage in a physical contest of strength with your attacker.



I guess Ms. Hollar has decided submission is hard on the face.

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 12:15 PM
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30. She did the first time....that's not in her future plans.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 01:39 PM
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35. Or the rape. As has been posted in this forum, rape doesn't really hurt.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:08 AM
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24. I hope she's not really carrying it in her new purse, and that she's engaging in the
ongoing training and practice needed to be able to carry safely. And it'd be even nicer if the police caught the mugger...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:11 AM
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25. Good for her
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 02:40 PM
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42. "...in his toodles." LOL! nt
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 11:20 AM
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26. She needs...
...at least another gun or two.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:06 PM
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45. the onus is on the state to prove revenge intent.
yes i may be a socialist leftist but hey constitutional rights INCLUDING THE 2nd AMENDMENT are absolute unless another person's (not corporation's) rights are harmed.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:25 AM
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48. right on
although isn't socialist leftist kind of redundant? As for me, I took this quiz and it says I'm more to the left than Ralph Nader and more libertarian that Ron Paul. Go figure.

politicalcompass.org
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