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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:32 PM Original message |
Paper Ballot Election Results Flip in UT After 'Recount' Finds Original Tally 'Extremely' Wrong |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Our elections are a total joke... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. For Now |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I doubt it. There was such an outcry after 2000. I was sure Democrats would do something when they |
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qb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. It was after 2000 that Congress called for unverifiable electronic devices. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
150. Do you have any basis at all for assuming they were duped? |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
69. yeah... |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
72. That was when I began to fear that some substantial no. of Dems were essentially corrupted. |
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2pooped2pop (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
114. yep, me too. n/t |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
77. They didn't "do nothing" here - the Democratic PARTY strongly SUPPORTED the machines |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
137. GOP/rove convinced tens of millions by radio that dems/acorn/ illegals are stealing |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
101. Yeah, it's almost like they're complicit |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
123. Actually, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:35 AM Response to Reply #123 |
153. It did not become obvious to me until about a year or two ago. Old habits die hard, I guess. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #153 |
169. Well, |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
126. I thought they would too. |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. the excuse they use |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:04 AM Response to Reply #134 |
151. Very lame. That does not explain why they did not pass laws while they controlled Congress. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Self delete. Dupe. |
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reACTIONary (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
139. UPDATE: Hand-count finds ORIGINAL tally correct... |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Voting and demanding clean elections go hand in hand |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. We have independent pollsters making their counts, too -- which is the way |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. A truly "independent" pollster in the Uniuted States? Who might that be? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
76. Not so far |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Just. wow. we need 2 shine some bright sunlight on this dank disihonesty & corruption.~nt |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:45 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. It's not like a big secret our elections have been hacked into tiny pieces by 1%'s wood-chipper ~nt |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
106. That is what is so telling. |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. Take note ..this is how Obama will lose in 2012 |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. If that happens, I predict you will see an |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
63. It will be too late by then. They will call out the militarized troops. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
108. K & R! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. I would be beyond stunned if Obama lost in 2012. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
102. Would you be stunned enough to join us in the streets? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #102 |
154. I would be happy to be in the street. Who is "us" though? Precious few out there with OWS. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
107. Me too. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
110. Unless the PTB decide otherwise. |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. Karl Rove's "the math" at work for America |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Did Rove control Congress between January 2007 and January 2011? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
103. Apparently, |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
138. no, but 1000 invisible radio stations still sell the notion dems/illegals/acorn steal elections. and |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. WTF? ..... "30% of voters next year will be voting on unverifiable touch-screen machines"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
118. Deleted message |
GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
119. Dupe. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. These machines are what we need to be protesting. |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. They are ONE thing we need to be protesting. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Boston went to paper ballots for the 2004 Presidential, but then went to a different form of |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
62. "Both Parties loves them some electronics in voting"???......I don't think so! |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Hon, I'm afraid you need to look into some history. Seriously. |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
133. Kerry won Ohio in 2008 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #133 |
157. If the elections in 2000 and 2004 were in fact stolen from Democrats by Republicans, |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
141. What? An election fraud dungeon??? Why? |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. Sorry; I don't think it was actually meant as a dungeon, but . . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
144. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:04 AM Response to Reply #144 |
158. Which federal laws were enacted? And if you are relying on Bradblog, please |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:04 AM Response to Reply #144 |
159. Self delete. Dupe |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
172. "HON", .I went to DU Election Reform forum....Here's what I found ..(& it's Frightening!) |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
179. HON........you're right! |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:19 AM Response to Reply #62 |
80. ""Both Parties loves them some electronics in voting"???......I don't think so!" / I do. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Indeed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:00 AM Response to Reply #80 |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
121. See post #120 re the Help America Vote Act of 2002. |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #121 |
148. Does post # 120 show that Democrats want voting machines without a paper ballot recount option? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:12 AM Response to Reply #121 |
149. Deleted message |
patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #149 |
168. "show"? "prove"???? Bwaa, ha, ha etc. ... don't know where you're trying to go with that. The post |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Re: how HAVA was written, by Whom, & How it was implemented & by Whom. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #62 |
156. Anything at all to support your assumption? |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #156 |
171. Nope! ...I stand corrected & now see that Obama doesn't care about voting machine fraud |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. Obama? I referred you to my posts about Congress and Boston. |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. You're Right!..."This is way bigger than Obama!" |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 04:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
90. Plus one! nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. You want someone else to protest? |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Someone else? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Someone other than yourself.. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Why shouldn't I? |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. To clarify... Why shouldn't I protest? |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. I think the point was |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. And my subject line said |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. The list s long |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. We need to constitutionally ban electronic voting - it's getting dangerous. |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. We already passed "dangerous" in 2000 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Good luck with that. (Please see replies 15 and 25.) |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
64. We need a movement and petitions and actions NOW. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. Paper ballots. Hand counted. In public. Nothing less. n/t |
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Paka (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Amen to that. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. YES!!! On a national PATRIOTIC HOLIDAY for voting, begins on Friday and ends the following Tuesday. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Great idea. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Yeah, if we can get 4 days off for religious holidays, why not for a holiday for saving our ass by |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Saving our ass by voting on a Diebold machine? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. No. See post #10 & its sub-thread. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #39 |
152. Paper ballots, counted in public, by hand is simply not going to happen, though. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
130. Patrice, I remember getting my first SS card. I was 12. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
91. I'm with you, patrice. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. How hopeful |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. But that would be FAIR! Can't have that in this plutocracy. nt |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. It's the ONLY way! n/t |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. +1 n/t |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
65. Yes |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
104. Nothing less, nothing more. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I think distrust of our elections keeps ~ 25% of eligible voter home. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
127. Paper ballots. Hand counted. In public. Nothing less.... AMEN! |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
142. With international monitoring! n/t |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. No fuckin wonder we're in debt...we can't count. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Well, our education system is not the best, but we can count, if we really want to. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. Beware voter suppression psychology |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. ....or who they vote for turns out to be a dipfuck! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. What a bizarre reaction to posts about election fraud by voting machine. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. Ahhhh... Ummmm.... |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. SOMEWHERE along the way` |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. You don't sound ignorant. You sound trusting. |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. The name 'Diebold' comes to mind. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Thanks |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
117. Thank YOU! |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
124. ATM bank machines are monitored 24/7 |
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Xtraneous (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Not only are they not trustworthy... |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
97. Wow your town w/the lever machines |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Because meat machines are even worse. |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Figures don't lie, but liers will figure. The machine is only as trust worthy as the programer. NT |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. "The machine is only as trust worthy as the programer." |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #66 |
95. liars |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
120. Look at the geneology of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 i.e. how it was written -AND- implemented |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
35. And this will be all over the MSM. NOT. This vote flipping is now the norm and the ruling class's |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. +1. While I think Jay Z is scum for not thinking about sharing profits with the OWS movement, |
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Dj13Francis (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. Huh. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
46. As always, thanks, Bradblog. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. There is no citizen voting process in America. It's all a sham. I wish an army |
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qb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. It's hopeless when the Dems are too weak to do or say anything even when the evidence |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
115. you've got to wonder if "weak" is the right word. I think it |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
160. Assuming they say nothing only because they are weak is, well, an assumption. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. Isn't just too odd that Diebold machines never ever make a mistake |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
181. Hi ooglymoogly. |
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IamK (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. do you think Al Gore would be thinner now if he was elected president? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
161. Is that an anti-Gore slam or a fat joke, or both? |
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riverbendviewgal (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
55. we use pencil and paper in Canada |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
58. No problem, just stop using those pesky paper ballots that are fed into these and the plm is solved! |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:33 AM Response to Reply #58 |
83. Can't tell if you're being snarky, or if you're misinformed... |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #83 |
145. Sorry for the confusion. I am completely in favor of hand counts on paper, in public |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
60. Every American voter should be required to watch that video! ... Recommended |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
61. As always, thanks to bradblog for staying on top of this. REC. nt |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. +a billion. Thanks, Brad, for your awesome service to all of us. |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:34 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Thanks backatcha, Zorra. And if I had a staff, I know they'd thank you too! :-) |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
67. kr |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
71. K&R'd. I can't believe we're acquiescing in the use of these machines. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #71 |
113. That's because we were browbeaten into not caring by the fucking trolls |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
78. Not to be a Luddite or anything... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Totally agree. Though our esteemable M$M always has its |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
92. Because a lying human is harder to fix than a broken metal machine. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #92 |
125. If ONLY the problem were a matter of "broken" machines... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #125 |
173. "two from each party" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:27 AM Response to Reply #92 |
163. Nonsense. Those machines are not broken. If you believe that |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #163 |
182. During the Bush years, the FBI, which was the agency one |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
122. Agreed!!!!!!!!!!! Time should be less, waaaaaaaaaaaaay less, valuable than the unity of our nation. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
162. Good question, Mark. What do you suppose the answer is? |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
79. Diebold Republican Electing Machinez |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
81. BradBlog all over that shit as usual! Huge K&R! Andy Stephenson would be proud! |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Thanks, Slay -- and I miss Andy...and John Gideon...every day! :-( |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
89. Can you say Banana Republic? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
93. If the machines counting the robber barons' money were so inaccurate |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
94. This is the stuff that scares me... |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #94 |
132. while im scared of these damn machines |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:29 AM Response to Reply #94 |
164. No reason to assume it was only once. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
96. Deleted message |
perdita9 (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
98. Can Diebold be Charged with Treason? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #98 |
112. it should be treated that way... RICO |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
99. When you have all the money, you need supreme control. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
100. My goodness, that's a surprise! Not. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #100 |
165. Worse. They can; no government (federal, state, county, city, town) requires them to. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
109. As long as we don't have 100% verifiable voting, we have no democracy... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
111. the GOP and their Machines |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
116. All those people in uniform |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
128. Change We Can Believe In - Voting. |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
129. How can these jackasses manage to sell machines that don't have public domain software review? |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
131. It's a shame you opposed the Holt bill. Maybe our elections would be more secure than they now are. |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #131 |
175. Not a shame at all. Your elections would have been worse. |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. K & R |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
135. deposited a check into an ATM the other day....got a receipt |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
136. the thieves will use local RW radio to generate excuses and to somehow (always) blame dems |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
140. It's just a coincidence system errors always favor the Republicans |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #140 |
155. Which one is the Republican in this case? It looks like machine error to me |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:36 AM Response to Reply #140 |
166. If they always favor Republicans, wouldn't you expect Democrats to do something about that? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
146. Okay, if a group of people want hand counts in public, how do we go about changing what is? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #146 |
167. You might start with your city hall or town hall. Also, check you state laws to see |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
178. So basically this story amounted to nothing... |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. Well, no... |
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red dog 1 (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
180. Paper Ballots? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
184. lemme guess 181818? |
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