If I understand. When the jury deliberates

[LiberalFighter]

They have access to all evidence presented in court.

They are permitted review of a transcript with the judge's approval.

I wonder how long it will take to render a decision?

[jimfields33]

1. I think they get transcripts

But some materials need requested to the judge. We have a long way to go before jury results. The defense is up next. God only knows how long they will take.

[hlthe2b]

3. There are two attorneys on that jury--I'm betting they will have a long list of exhibits they want to

see up close to review--if anyone does...

[slumcamper]

6. Scrutiny--independent?

Just a few points:

Lawyers on the jury are no less worrisome as truck drivers on the jury. In fact, their presence--and legal perspective and expertise--would ostensibly bolster and affirm a unanimous decision. Conversely, if a lone juror holds out for MAGA, they are powerless in their effect.

Independent? Unlikely. These are likely more "evolved" individuals. We know little about their leaning, but most "self-actualized" people tend to incline (or decline) toward one side or the other. However, the selection process should have weeded out those whose objectivity is suspect. Assuming objectivity, their concurrence with UNANIMOUS verdict would, again, bolster the outcome.

The more solid the outcome, the weaker the case on appeal (a likely result).

TSF is spending his final days entangled and embroiled in an ever-deepening legal abyss. While I take some comfort in this (schadenfreude?) I remain concerned that its/his damage--and example/template--to the legal system is grave and will only metastasize.

There's more, but you get the picture.

[hlthe2b]

8. You read too much into my post that only meant to concede that most attorneys are DETAIL oriented.

I was implying nothing else.

[jimfields33]

11. Very possible.

[LiberalFighter]

13. If they go too long it may irritate the jury.

It would depend on whether they make sense and if they get obnoxious.

[MOMFUDSKI]

2. The longer the defense keeps Cohen on

the stand, the more they will aggravate the jury.

[Attilatheblond]

4. Defense likely gonna work to get Cohen angry enough to lose his cool

That may or may not aggravate the jury, but it will not be good for anybody.

[LiberalFighter]

9. Lanny Davis has helped Cohen understand the importance of not going off.

[Takket]

5. as a Democrat, I would render my verdict in 30 seconds lol

I think they are well aware there is a lot riding on this, so they will likely spend 2-3 days really going every detail. I'll say 3 days.

[underpants]

7. There are two lawyers in the jury

One is a personal injury lawyer and I think the other is a general practice lawyer (real estate closings, wills, and some criminal/civil defense (and offense in some civil cases).

I saw some commentary on cable about how usually you try to avoid a lawyer being in a jury because they can direct the deliberations.

[getagrip_already]

10. Some very experienced trial lawyers on both sides have said...

In most cases, the jury makes up their mind during opening statements or shortly following.

Everything after that is bias confirmation.

There really isn't a lot of evidence in this trial. A few key documents, a few key witness transcripts, the opening statements and closing arguments.

I added the last two because the defense team wrote huge checks in their opening statement. Checks they can't cash with the jury.

The prosecution is going to point out they lied to them. They didn't deliver.

That will hurt.

Unless there is a holdout, I don't think it will be more than a few days, maybe sooner.

[jimfields33]

12. How can you say the defense hasn't delivered?

They haven’t even started yet. The prosecution is still at bat. The defense is up next and will probably take two to three weeks for their side of the case.

[getagrip_already]

16. Because their opening statement has alresdy been debunked...

Pecker came snd went unscated. Stormy came and went unscathed. Cohen will also get through this unscathed (my prediction).

The defense promised they would prove tsf's innocence beyond a doubt (not even a reasonable doubt). They claimed the prosecution would put on lies they would destroy. They claimed stormy and Cohen were liars and worse.

They didnt/aren't proving any of that.

[LiberalFighter]

14. Based on reports made on MSNBC there has been a lot of evidence

I may be wrong but think there was about two hundred. Thirty four just with the checks and invoices.

There are the recorded calls, emails, messages

[getagrip_already]

15. Yeah, but its mostly small stuff....

Texts, emails, ledgers. Not really stuff they will go back to.

I could be wrong. But the big blockbuster stuff is tight and compact. Everything else is foundational.

[anciano]

17. "the jury makes up their mind during opening statements"...

I don't know who you are referring to (what experienced lawyers?) but I am genuinely curious as to what "they" are basing their assertion on. How would they know this?
I am just a layman, but I have served on several juries before and never once found that to be the case. Every single time we took our responsibility very seriously.

[getagrip_already]

18. They have polled juries extensively....

Both real and mock. And they've found that juries tend to form very early opinions and will typically hold to those early biases.

It's not a sure thing. But they feel if you can get a jury on your side early, they will stay there.

Of course surprises, and abrasive witnesses or lawyers can change minds, as can evidence. But attitudes color evidence, and opinions can be created early.

I'm not a lawyer either, but from a people perspective, it just rings true. I've found most people will make up their minds quickly, long before you are done talking. They still want to hear the whole story, but once you start to hear their direction, they usually dont change it.