Tell me i'm wrong with this thought.

[bluestarone]

IF TFG and his CULT Terrorists DO win this election, i feel that will be the END of these gun loving bastards owning a gun. Eventually, i feel that these dumb bastards do NOT realize that TFG WILL eventually take away all guns PERIOD!! (Just like RUSSIA)

[LakeArenal]

1. Same with his Supreme Court should he win.

They will fly out of windows.

[live love laugh]

3. Why?

[LakeArenal]

6. Because we won't need them anymore.

Big egos running up against a Dictator wind up out windows.

All along I have warned the current judges to cut him loose. They have life time appointments. Longer than trump. They don’t need trump to do Putin’s bidding anymore. They will have the final say with no trump to counter them.

[live love laugh]

7. OK. I kind of see your point.

[live love laugh]

2. Why would Trump take guns away?

[WarGamer]

4. I think OP is saying that Trump will go Hitlerian..

Whether that's grounded in reality or not... hopefully we don't find out.

GOTV

[live love laugh]

5. I still don't understand the meaning of taking guns away from who?

Why?

[NanaCat]

32. Have you not studied history?

The average dictator has been averse to the general population having guns, because he can't control the people or the guns, and all dictators are control freaks. It freaks them out when they don't have control.

Plus, lots of people with guns could start shooting the wrong people.

Like him.

Better to be safe than sorry, and take the guns so the peasants can't cause trouble.

[DemocraticPatriot]

55. I take exception to your explanatory characterization of the term

'the wrong people'....







Of course, NOBODY should be shot---- and I do not advocate shooting anyone.

But if someone starts shit, SHIT HAPPENS.

[LakeArenal]

8. Why wouldn't he?

N Korea and China have strict gun laws. Why would trump be any different?

[live love laugh]

12. He wouldn't because he's supported by the NRA and

gun humpers.

Plus he wants a vigilante at his disposal for stochastic terrorism.

[LakeArenal]

17. Only to create chaos in US.

Last edited Mon May 13, 2024, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Edit to add: it’s working

[NanaCat]

33. Oh good grief. This is naivete beyond belief

THINK: If we have a dictator, then that means the Constitution is no longer in effect. That means every right in it is gone, and now one person decides what the law is about: The Dictator.

If the Dictator finds it bothersome for people to have guns, he won't give a bloody toss about what anyone thinks, because what other people think or want doesn't matter to him at all. He will tell the military to use any methods necessary to take the guns away, and what can the NRA do about it?

Nothing, that's what.

Oh, some gun-humpers might pop off here and there, but a few cluster bombs and tanks rumbling over homes, and that problem will go away PDQ.

He certainly won't care if that bothers his supporters. Have you read not one book about how Stalin mass-murdered fellow Communists who had supported him? Why do you think his mass-murder spree was called a purge, anyway? It was because he was purging the Communist party of anyone he saw as a threat.

It's not like any of this is speculation. Entire libraries of books have been written about the many times when dictators took guns and turned on their supporters.

[live love laugh]

39. "Oh good grief"⁉️

[Abolishinist]

56. It's good to see you have a sense of humor about this exchange!

I can only imagine the amount of time one could waste attempting a reasonable debate on the topic.

[live love laugh]

57. Exactly. It's all hypothetical and I don't have time.

[bluestarone]

19. Sorry had to leave for awhile

I'm thinking once he's got us, He will not us to be able to fight back. Just like RUSSIA.

[wnylib]

48. Because dictators don't want the masses to be armed.

They might overthrow the dictator, who wants absolute control and power and permanent status.

Ironically, the gun toters cling to their weapons out of paranoid fear that they need them to protect against dictatorial rule. And they support a guy who intends to be an absolute dictator. They think that they will have privileged roles as his enforcers.

[MenloParque]

9. I don't know one gun owner who would give up their 2A rights to comply with that nazi!

[bluestarone]

20. He gets FULL control, HE won't care

Again just like Russia. Don't want people to have weapons.

[NanaCat]

35. And you don't get that IT WILL NOT MATTER

What a gun-humper wants. Meal Team Six and their puny guns will be nothing against the US military's tanks, planes, artillery and etc if a dictator decides that it's too dangerous for him to allow the peons to have guns. Our military has enough fire power to flatten the Rocky Mountains if they decide on it.

You'll hand the gun over, or you'll die. If you hide, you'll be hunted down and killed. Your neighbours will even turn you in if they know you have a gun that you didn't turn in, and the penalty will probably be death, because dictators love executions for as many 'crimes' as possible.

That's how it will work.

[TexasDem69]

40. Something like 85 million Americans own guns

How in the world is someone going to seize their guns?

[Traurigkeit]

52. There Will Be NO 2ND AMENDMENT, there will be NO US Constitution or Bill Of Rights. ALL GONE !!

[LeftInTX]

10. Tell that to them

[bluestarone]

38. These dummies should hear this!!

In a country where it's full DICTATORSHIP, (LIKE TFG says he wants) your GUNS will be USELESS. NO GUNS, NO AMMO, Probably 6PM curfews everyday!!

[hedda_foil]

11. First he will deputize them to "watch" the rest of us...think Hitler's brownshirts.

[Irish_Dem]

13. I think you are wrong. Trump WANTS people to have guns.

He loves the violence and bloodshed.
He is a sadist.

He also wants a civilian militia/goon squad to intimidate and threaten his enemies.

Also the more chaos and violence, the more Trump can hold onto power.

[NanaCat]

36. He'll allow it, but only for so long

Then people having guns will be too dangerous for him.

Dictators do not like guns in the hands of the people. History has demonstrated it over and over again.

[unblock]

14. Not likely. Not soon, anyway. Even dictators have to get there gradually for some things.

Maybe after a big school shooting, he'll create an army of greenshirts to "protect" the school, and only they can gave guns.

Once that's accepted, then maybe there's another school shooting where the shooter lived close to school and had a gun at home. Do the ban guns within a mile of a school. Then eventually 5 miles.

Eventually only very remotely located people can have guns. But it's not a total ban, so they can claim it's "only" near schools.

But yeah, to your point -- a dictatorship eventually works against everyone's interests.

[bluestarone]

21. Agree it won't happen right away, BUT

In the end it WILL. When he knows he got full control.

[Midnight Writer]

15. Trump is the only President I have heard say "Take away the guns first, worry about due process later".

His statement was televised, and it is beyond me why Democrats don't use it.

[bluestarone]

22. I did NOT hear that.

But it absolutely wouldn't surprise me. Again i'm talking about when he thinks he's got us under his control.

[Torchlight]

16. I doubt that would provide him personal profit, so I doubt it would come to pass.

His policies are the sake of one person only. Himself. Unless or until gun legislation jeopardizes his own personal bank accounts, I don't see direct motive on his part to even consider it, let alone carry it out.

[former9thward]

18. You are wrong.

Nobody is going to take anyone's guns. It may be a wish for some, a nightmare for others, but it is not going to happen by any politician. There is absolutely no political will for it.

[bluestarone]

23. Not saying you're wrong, BUT, (i believe)

In the long run, i believe he WILL.

[NanaCat]

37. History says you're wrong.

You think everything will stay pretty much the same as it is now, only more right wing. And history says that's not how it works.

What would happen under a dictatorship is not what would happen under the form of government we have now. If the Dictator decides that the guns must go, then the guns will go. Or else.

That's what it means to have a dictatorship.

[former9thward]

54. We are not facing a dictatorship.

Dictatorships arise under certain circumstances. We do not have those in the U.S.

[MenloParque]

24. Trump may have some power fantasy about being the Gun Grabber President

But no law enforcement officer is interested in knocking on doors and being a weapon snatcher. I also believe American citizens will laugh at the Orange Bozo if he asks for full compliance. He's a clown but he knows his base is violent and loves guns more than his Orange ass. Not happening.

[NanaCat]

41. I can't believe people are so bloody naive

As to think that things will stay pretty much the same if this idiot becomes a dictator.

They won't. The country will become a completely different animal, and our current laws and norms will not be honored at all.

The Constitution will be gone. Not just violated. Gone. Including the 2nd Amendment. A dictator has no use for anything in it, except for the clauses in it that he can warp into giving a President unlimited power--over everything.

Congress? Dissolved.

Supreme Court? Bye, girl.

DOJ--The dictator's kangaroo system to wipe out political opponents.

Social programs? Gone.

Our treasury, and especially Social Security & Medicare? Looted and the funds going right into the Dictator's own pockets.

Everyone they hate? Maybe they'll get into some camps for a while, but ultimately? Murdered in cold blood.

Millions will be 'disappeared,' and everything we built will be in ashes at our feet.

Everything.

[doc03]

25. He won't at first but after we are under a dictatorship for years whoever follows

Trump (Jr.) perhaps will take them.

[sarisataka]

26. You're wrong

And despite invoking the boogeyman, it is legal to own guns in Russia.

[bluestarone]

27. Sorry Not a AK-47

No way.

[sarisataka]

28. No it's not legal

Nor is it here, without a lot of paperwork and money.

AK-47s are far from ALL guns

[brewens]

29. You're wrong, unless you're not. Given enough power, dicktaters don't allow an armed populace.

I've been convinced the militarized police are for what's coming when the shit hits the fan. They think they can make it work this time. The ruling class will be safe, and their goons will try and put down any rebellions.

[myohmy2]

30. if...

...the 2nd Amendment ever became a problem or got in king magat's way he would ignore it in a heartbeat...

...the Constitution means little or nothing to him...

...he's said and done as much...

[bluestarone]

31. Fully Agree!

[keithbvadu2]

34. The only recent Prez to confiscate legally owned guns was Dubya after Katrina.

[NanaCat]

43. You're assuming that the Constitution will still be in effect

If TSF becomes dictator.

You are in for a rude awakening if that comes to pass.

[TexasDem69]

42. You are wrong

The Constitution prohibits it, judges won’t support it, and the police won’t enforce it. Even if Trump went full dictator mode—and this would require something much more extreme than Putin—there isn’t enough law enforcement to search the homes of the 85 million individuals who own guns, and there’s no way to even figure out who those people are because there’s no gun registry.

[bluestarone]

44. Oh for Christ sake the constitution will be long gone before

They start with their DICTATORSHIP that TFG is saying that's what he wants.Maybe you should take a look at what America will be IF they succeed. It's pretty clear as to what POOTYS goal is here.

[TexasDem69]

45. How will it be long gone?

Who is going to roll over for this? The courts won’t, the police won’t, and the military won’t. Trump is a terrible person, and his hardcore supporters are terrible too, but they aren’t enough to dismantle the entire American form of government.

On edit, if you truly believe that this will happen then you should start arming up, because there’s about a 50/50 chance Trump is President come 2025.

[TexasDem69]

47. Personal attacks are improper on DU

As are slurs against people with handicaps. Please refrain in the future. Its ok to just admit you were wrong.

[LakeArenal]

49. Trump will not win in 2024.

[TexasDem69]

50. I certainly hope not

I’m not prone to worrying about the future, but the concept of Donald Trump as President (again) is frightening. I think about all the terrible terrible leaders we’ve had in the past 60 years—Nixon, Reagan, McCarthy, the Dixiecrats, and I don’t think any were the threat to Democracy that Trump represents. And yet 50 million+ Americans think he has their best interests in his heart. He doesn’t.

And the primary threat isn’t even really Trump. He’s too stupid to do real damage, and has to operate within the confines of the federal government. It’s the people he enables at the state and local level.

[elleng]

51. Nope, but they'll kill lots of eachother

and whomever else they want.

CHAOS.

[Traurigkeit]

53. Remember All The People that did not VOTE for The Sick Fuck. They have guns.

And know how to use them well and make their own ammo and understand much that can be made with what is inside a closet full of cleaning materials.

Think TSF wants 200,000,000+ people running around with arms to take out its people to save the U.S. ?

[mahina]

58. Disagree

Putin would be just delighted to have a shoot each other up