trump's rally went limp

[DoBW]

check out the grand finale

https://www.politicususa.com/2024/05/12/trumo-new-jersey-crowd-walked-out.html

just click the "continue" option; worked for me

[Faux pas]

1. The link

sucks, all advertising, plus you have to install some google program to play the damed thing. Thanks but no thanks.

[calguy]

2. And we're supposed to believe the polls?

Political polls are one thing, and reality is quite a different story.

[birdographer]

5. YES!

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I am getting a little tired of DU members quoting poll after poll, as if they were the last word. HELLO........ Stop looking at polls. Those are the things, remember them? that said Hilary was a shoe-in back in 2016. Every single poll. Polls are not calling young women who may want an abortion at some time, they are not calling pregnant women....in fact, they are calling people with land lines. Now, as a person who was forced for years to have a landline due to no cell service, I get it, but sane people, as opposed to stupid trumpers, do not answer landline calls if they do not recognize the number, or if the caller ID says RNC--which it used to on 50% of our calls. They are getting polling results from trumpers, so OF COURSE they skew way over to trump. Come on, DUers, stop quoting polls!!!! Or maybe we could have a special forum for people who want to quote polls.

[Silent3]

8. When someone posts a poll here, does that "as if it were the last word"...

…come from words the poster actually uses, or do you simply add that impression on yourself, assuming that a person wouldn’t post a poll at all unless they themselves thought about the poll that way?

[NanaCat]

9. The polls got it right

You do realize that a pollster can have a candidate ahead in a poll, and they can ALSO be right if the vote doesn't turn out that way...right? It's called margin of error, and every poll has that factored in, to account for variations for what can actually happen. Hillary was within this margin of error for most of the general election campaign, nationwide, and in the swing states as well.

So if the pollsters said Hillary would win Michigan by, say, 51%-49% and the MoE was +/-3%, then that meant she might get actual votes as high as 54%....OR it could instead be as low as 48%. Because 51% (predicted vote) +3% (MoE) = 54, and 51-3=48.

And guess what? That's exactly what happened. She got votes within the margin of error in four pivotal states, but on the low side, rather than the high.

The next time you see a poll, look for the MoE and realise that an election is only a shoo-in (not shoe-in) if a candidate polls HIGHER than the MoE. Reputable pollsters will have an MoE no greater than +/-3%, so the candidate needs to poll at 53% or over to qualify as a shoo-in. Hilary didn't poll that high in the closing weeks where she needed it.

Ergo, the pollsters got it right.

QED

[SoFlaBro]

3. Orange Bastard is a boiled bag of fetid owl shit. Piss on that fucking turd.

[DoBW]

4. I like owls ... can I sub in chicken sh*t?

[SoFlaBro]

6. Keep the owl. Lose the shit. Emperor or Horned or otherwise.

[JoseBalow]

7. Well said!

[budkin]

10. BUT 100,000!

NEW JERSEY IN PLAY!

[Tickle]

11. As someone who chose to watch

You would have never known anyone was leaving or bored. The crowd was roaring and people were on top of each other.

[tavernier]

13. When he's not bragging about all the wonderful stuff

he didn’t do, he’s whining about how the world is so cruel to him. I knew people like that in high school and nobody wanted to be around them except other losers. I guess some people never change.

[Emile]

12. His whole campaign is about to go limp

when he goes to jail.

[onenote]

14. That's a pretty small number of folks leaving compared to the number staying.

Sorry, but this story is more hyperbole than fact.

[DoBW]

15. He ends up talking to mostly empty lot, an idiot blah blah blah