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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn McEntee, former Trump aide & Project 2025 advisor, gives fake money to homeless people so they'll get arrested
when they use it. He says he does this to help "clean up the community, getting them off the street."
Tweet with his TikTok video:
Link to tweet
Reaction to it from Tara Setmayer of the Lincoln Project:
Link to tweet
Fla Dem
(24,019 posts)If the receiver of this counterfeit money then tries to use it, they could be arrested,
Beside the legality of the act, John McEntee is a swine treating homeless people like props so he can get a chuckle.
bullimiami
(13,142 posts)He is passing it with the intent of falsely involving the police and courts.
highplainsdem
(49,229 posts)LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)This has been going on for awhile.
Police warn of movie prop money used as actual currency
https://www.lascrucesbulletin.com/stories/police-warn-of-movie-prop-money-used-as-actual-currency,7990
Wonder Why
(3,492 posts)LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)Wonder Why
(3,492 posts)LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)Andrew Mark Jaffe
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Besides being just plain mean to the homeless, I am concerned about your possession of "fake money." You could be creating liability for yourself.
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No, but why do that?....................................................
https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-illegal-to-give-a-homeless-person-fake-money-3063588.html
Irish_Dem
(49,148 posts)So if I trick you into committing a crime that is perfectly legal?
LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,148 posts)It it is wrong, immoral and should be illegal to trick others into committing crimes.
This is not a court of law.
This is the court of public opinion and it is wrong to entice people into committing crimes.
Mr.Bill
(24,438 posts)at every trial, 50% of the lawyers are wrong.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,867 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,163 posts)niyad
(114,384 posts)depending on use, says the linked article.
appmanga
(616 posts)...because you want some heroin, that's a transaction whether you pay me or not. If you are caught with said heroin, saying someone gave it to you isn't a defense.
As with everything with the law, whether what he's doing is illegal may depend on several things, including the jurisdiction in which he lives. I would believe he's committing a fraud similar to if I sold you baking soda instead of the heroin you decided to buy from me, something that is illegal in some jurisdictions. But, regardless of the law, he's a piece of shit. And to have the temerity to admit something so ugly in a public forum shows how the cruelty of the MAGAts is a part of how they choose to live their lives.
LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)I can go to Dollar Tree and buy play money. I can't buy heroin at Dollar Tree.
appmanga
(616 posts)Replace "heroin" with "phony gold coins".
brewens
(13,752 posts)to qualify as some kind of fraud, even if it's only a sting of misdemeanors. If not counterfeiting. There is no fucking way that is totally legal. Gotta be some kind of malicious mischief or harassment.
wnylib
(21,968 posts)in a place that he frequents and catch him in the act of fraudulently representing fake money as real in order to entice people to commit a crime.
Or, would love to see someone take a video if him in the act and post it.
brewens
(13,752 posts)their work with phony money calls.
wnylib
(21,968 posts)creating crime situations that they have to deal with. Sort of Iike people who pull fire alarms for kicks.
Xavier Breath
(3,722 posts)Because what kid doesn't want to receive a pile of fake cash for their birthday? That'll learn 'em.
LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)Xavier Breath
(3,722 posts)I was merely pointing out what a lame selling point it was to suggest it was good for a kid's birthday party.
LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)I'm saying he won't because it's not illegal to give away.
I think what he's doing is unethical and deplorable, but a__hole is not going to prison over this. As much as we would like these guys off the street, this isn't gonna get him put away.
Xavier Breath
(3,722 posts)Again, I was commenting on the lame birthday party angle. If this needs still further explanation, please let me know.
catbyte
(34,625 posts)LeftInTX
(26,038 posts)Although we want these creeps put away, unfortunately, he will still be out on the streets.
catbyte
(34,625 posts)so this creep is gonna skate by. But that report I posted is interesting.
catbyte
(34,625 posts)18 U.S.C. 2.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R43769/4
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BonnieJW
(2,286 posts)Years ago I was a bank teller. If someone was making a deposit and a counterfeit bill was in it, I couldn't even give the bill back to the owner. I had to put it in a baggie and call the FBI. The owner was out $20
RobinA
(9,940 posts)Monopoly money, or actual counterfeit greenbacks? I never met a homeless person yet who didn't know the difference. They're homeless, not dumb.
bamagal62
(3,292 posts)Counterfeit money??? Isnt that forgery or fraud?
niyad
(114,384 posts)could not listen to the vudeo, I do not know if that is what the sleazoid is claiming.
Think. Again.
(9,333 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,619 posts)who investigates counterfeit money.
Takket
(21,804 posts)I'm not holding my breath for garland to move on him
no_hypocrisy
(46,464 posts)Last edited Mon May 13, 2024, 05:41 AM - Edit history (1)
Enjoy jail.
republianmushroom
(14,195 posts)unblock
(52,642 posts)His plan is to intentionally commit a crime in an effort to dupe other people into committing the same crime, and then figure that the other people will go to prison and he won't.
MadameButterfly
(1,153 posts)and bragging about it?
unblock
(52,642 posts)MadameButterfly
(1,153 posts)I wish you weren't right about this.
I do hope it turns out to be illegal though. It might not bother the MAGAs but it could bother the police who are having to deal with the people arrested for fake bills
thesquanderer
(12,021 posts)rickford66
(5,542 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,526 posts)Trash bags deserve death threats imho. Maybe it might housebreak them so they think twice about shitting on people.
3catwoman3
(24,219 posts)niyad
(114,384 posts)I would love to invite him to a meal, maybe a nice salad with mushrooms, a lovely tea. .
magicarpet
(14,390 posts).... here are some candles for the table of his last supper.
niyad
(114,384 posts)mjvpi
(1,451 posts)PatSeg
(47,956 posts)What a cruel, nasty piece of shit.
TeamProg
(6,498 posts)DET
(1,355 posts)This arrogant POS was hired as the Director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office under Trump. Per Wikipedia, He was tasked with identifying and removing political appointees and career officials deemed insufficiently loyal to the administration . I can only imagine how much he must have enjoyed his job. Probably toyed with his prey before firing them.
Mad_Machine76
(24,478 posts)if I recall?
He got into trouble before he was even hired. One of the Generals fired him from his initial position in the Trump administration when he found out that McEntee did not qualify for a security clearance due to some financial malfeasance in his background. So, of course, Trump hired him as his personnel director to clean house per Trumps direction. I vaguely remember the little twerp causing quite a bit of havoc, but the details escape me in the whirlwind of Trump shenanigans.
One last thing
McEntee convinced Peter Theil to give him money to found a conservative dating app for losers like himself. Every womans dream - a sadistic sociopath whose idea of fun is torturing the homeless. I cant imagine that venture was successful.
Botany
(70,744 posts)Excuse me but Mr. McEntee needs a real tune up. I carry fake money in order to get homeless people
arrested when they try to buy food,.
progressoid
(50,072 posts)I've not been in a physical altercation for a few decades and have made a point to avoid them but I'd make an exception for this guy.
wnylib
(21,968 posts)In my small city, homeless people hang out at convenience stores like 7/11 late at night because they are open all night. It's a place to get warm or out of the rain.
A few days ago there were a couple guys hanging out in front of a 7/11 as I entered. It was early evening, but raining. They were sheltering underneath the overhang of the storefront. One of them showed me a Social Services cash/food stamp card and asked me to use it to buy some milk and cinnamon snack cakes for him. He said that the clerks would not accept it from him because it had a female name on it. I am female.
Well, it would have been illegal for me to use the card. Plus, what was he doing with someone else's card? So I said no and went inside. But then I thought, regardless of how he got the card, he was asking for a half gallon of milk and a snack. He was not asking for money or drugs.
So I bought the milk, cinnamon cakes, and a couple healthier snacks on my bank card and gave the bag to him when I came out of the store.
One of the clerks was outside on her break. I'm a regular at that store, so she asked why I gave the guy a bag. I said it was only milk and food. She thought I was a gullible old lady being conned. I said that he was just a hungry person and giving him food was not being conned. It was just being kind. And a lot more legal than his original request.
Botany
(70,744 posts)It is a game changer. You or somebody in your family needs food we will get you food.
End of story.
Now, some people will complain about the costs but this will make money for America,
help people @ work because they are not worried about their kids or some other family
member or friend needing something to eat, and it shows real kindness in helping people
make their lives better. Joe B. Is the best President of my lifetime and in part because he
has taken some real hurts in his life and had a father and his family who struggled with money
and employment as he was growing up.
Food is Medicine is a combination of HHS, the Department of Ag, Instacart, Feeding America,
the Rockefeller Foundation, and some other non governmental organizations. It will be results
driven. And speaking of results driven buying that man some milk and food was the right thing
to do because you will not miss the 5 or 10 dollars but for an hour or so the homeless person
could feel good and that is a good thing.
IcyPeas
(21,994 posts)So someone is sure to see it.
What a juvenile twit.
What? He was fired for serious financial crimes? Wouldn't this get him promoted ... not fired....
live love laugh
(13,283 posts)gopiscrap
(23,795 posts)with the intention of the receiver thinking it is legitimate currency
Ponietz
(3,114 posts)Silent Type
(3,197 posts)dalton99a
(81,915 posts)Sadistic evil piece of shit
FrenchCitizen
(14 posts)I don't know if the guy in the story above is necessarily a MAGA type like McEntee. But there's a history of shitty people doing that, so I wouldn't put it past him (or some other wannabe MAGA star) to pull an evil stunt like that.
Danmel
(4,959 posts)Devoid of humanity. I really have no words for someone who could do something so senseless cruel.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,571 posts)DET
(1,355 posts)Wikipedia: In May 2023, it was announced that McEntee was joining The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 as a senior advisor.
AverageOldGuy
(1,590 posts). . . that he makes a habit of this in the same areas of the same city. Eventually the homeless in that area will catch on to him, recognize him, and . . . the term "sleeps with the fishes" comes to mind.
Justice comes in many forms, some of it outside the courtroom.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,341 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,526 posts)Would send us all to concentration camps and those of us that are disabled would be killed if he had his way.
What an evil little fucker.
America would be so much better if these oversized amydagalia chickenshit republican evolutionary throwbacks were gone.
GenThePerservering
(1,968 posts)that he makes a video of this. I'm not sure that will end well for him.
Blue Owl
(50,795 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,248 posts)Traildogbob
(8,958 posts)Following the teachings.