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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGovernor Kristi Noem issues a new statement justifying her decision to murder a puppy.
Link to tweet
Irish_Dem
(47,962 posts)Didn't work for Katie, won't work for Kristi.
Irish_Dem
(47,962 posts)She is totally clueless.
COL Mustard
(5,970 posts)She is completely without shame or morals, but she has a clue that her political future is bleak
Grokenstein
(5,730 posts)She just doesn't realize exactly how badly she screwed up. Yet.
Irish_Dem
(47,962 posts)She went on the talks shows defending herself.
Made things worse.
ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)Yikes, that must have been a mess! 😱
Irish_Dem
(47,962 posts)Humiliated herself even further to no avail.
ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,962 posts)I just read about them.
Trying to defend her rebuttal speech.
It would have been better if she just kept quiet.
Like Kristi N should do.
LaMouffette
(2,043 posts)to re-home the dog, not shoot it.
Trump is also a soul-less dog-hater. They would have been perfect running mates.
TxGuitar
(4,219 posts)How many people vetted this book? How many editors, how many political advisors, family members, colleagues? The fact that these stories remained (nevermind the horror and cruelty of the deeds) after all of those people read the book shows the ingrained, systemic, and, the very worst part, casual cruelty of their party. Just ask Mitts pooch, or the Huckabees dog.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,168 posts)yardwork
(61,793 posts)I shudder to think about any child-rearing tips Noem might share.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,998 posts)how she had already bought a firearm for her granddaughter (who was two years old at the time)?
The damage here is already done- she already has it in print that she hated the animal.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)It's out on May 7, according to Amazon, so we'll probably find out soon. The reviews should be ... interesting.
Marthe48
(17,125 posts)Was the dog nipping with affection? Or trying to bite to injure? There is a big difference. My grand dog would nip/pinch my belly just about every time I went to walk her. I would tell her no every time, but I took it to mean she was glad to see me. Nobody would have killed her for that.
Farmer-Rick
(10,240 posts)He was a 10 month old lab mix we got as a rescue. His previous owner let him gnaw on people's hands when they played. The problem was the puppy did it to everyone he liked.
So, instead of shooting him, I yelped everytime he tried to bite my hands. He stopped biting in about a week and grew to be a very sweet dog.
He just didn't know biting hurt. The yelping made him realize he was hurting me by biting my hands. When puppies play they have to be taught their limits so they don't hurt you or others.
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)so now it looks like she's embellishing.
Ponietz
(3,069 posts)Shell wear it around her neck the rest of her life.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,103 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,168 posts)"I killed a puppy cuz I hated it"... buy my book for more horrific stories of my psychopathic nature.
haele
(12,694 posts)She killed the dog because Cricket didn't do what she wanted the dog to do and she was too stupid to verify Cricket had the temperament to be trained to be a hunting dog before she got it - or too stupid to train it properly.
I wouldn't doubt she got it from a puppy mill or backyard breeder, instead of from someone who actually bred or raised hunting dogs for sale.
She killed Cricket because the dog was basically a house pet instead of a tool like her gunz, and she just doesn't do care and affection well at all. I feel sorry for her kids; she's the type to raise them as if she'd have no problems with the biblical dictate to kill or sell ones disobedient children if they don't live up to her rules - it's just that in the here and now, that's illegal.
Haele
Cha
(298,049 posts)unblock
(52,496 posts)things that are nevertheless rotten and evil.
Such as spouting off their bigotry then say hey I have free speech. Yes, you have free speech. You're still a bigot and an *sshole for going around insulting people and spreading hate.
Legal doesn't mean ethical or moral.
LakeArenal
(28,885 posts)unblock
(52,496 posts)These people never do that
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,168 posts)With the posting above she's changing her story.. .first it was "I hated the dog...". Now it's "it bit people".
too late... the world knows she has a "gravel pit" of death. Dogs, goats, horse...who knows what else gets hauled to the gravel pit for a bullet to the head. HORRIBLE.
demmiblue
(36,915 posts)yardwork
(61,793 posts)Yeah, she's crossed some kind of line. When you've lost Laura Loomer...
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,998 posts)and this is from THE RIGHT-WINGERS.
ret5hd
(20,563 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,998 posts)Chilling episode that was adapted from an even more chilling short story by Jerome Bixby.
LudwigPastorius
(9,262 posts)she'll take on the tough challenges and painful decisions about who goes to the showers when.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)Her mistake was killing a dog instead of an immigrant or other "undesirable."
OMGWTF
(3,993 posts)See Donald -- I am a horrible, unfeeling, murdering psycho bitch from Hell, ergo, your perfect running mate.
John1956PA
(2,674 posts)He message called for the elimination of lazy, frolicking creatures which kill defenseless life. The right wingers were not discouraged from taking that message to any extreme which they feel is appropriate.
NickB79
(19,299 posts)I thought the original story was that it was killing chickens?
Cha
(298,049 posts)"killing chickens".. Which dogs will do. you don't kill the dog.
Bayard
(22,237 posts)And the dogs stay in the property fence, although they didn't bother the ducks running around (coyotes got all of those.)
I can see why trump would pick her as a running mate--he hates dogs too. She claims this was a hard decision? Sounds like she enjoyed blowing it away, and throwing the body in a pit with the rest of the garbage. Although, many states have laws permitting killing of dogs who are chasing/killing livestock, but its usually strays.
Cha
(298,049 posts)Link to tweet
Yeah Chickens need to be separated safely away from dogs who are their natural predator.. it's called dinner!
Bayard
(22,237 posts)She's pretty cute. Wonder what breed?
Puppies like to chew on things. Sometimes that includes humans, but its not like seriously biting.
Cha
(298,049 posts)throw them in the gravel pit.
I don't know about the picture.. I couldn't find anything on google.
Is TSF going o defend this? "very fine people" card.
Cha
(298,049 posts)Bayard
(22,237 posts)German Wirehaired Pointer
Cha
(298,049 posts)ok_cpu
(2,056 posts)But I'd bet something valuable and meaningful that it was written to address situations where a loose dog is threatening or killing someone's livestock. It's probably not for when PetSmart training fails the stubborn puppy.
ecstatic
(32,786 posts)A 200 pound pitbull with rabies.
TBF
(32,144 posts)and talk about whether the dog is just in a wrong environment, or whether it really is a case of needing to humanely end it's life. That is what civilized people do. I'm sure in South Dakota, like other areas, the Vet would even make a home visit for that conversation.
Frankly I think she is a liar. She simply couldn't handle this dog and didn't want to be humane. This is who she is. And when people tell you who they are, believe them.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,168 posts)Kristi Noems Killing Of Her Puppy Slammed Across PartiesAnd Mocked At Correspondents Dinner
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S.E. Cupp, another Republican pundit who also hunts with dogs, pointed out that there are 592 other things you can do with a dog that won't hunt besides kill it in front of your kid and construction workers.
The night before, comedian Matt Friend mocked Noem in Trumps voice at the White House Correspondents Dinner, saying he was killing this dinner harder than Kristi Noem kills the puppiesdrawing gasps from the crowd in Washington.
Ryan Busse, a Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Montana, criticized Noem as a hunting dog owner on social media, writing anyone who has ever owned a birddog knows how disgusting, lazy and evil this is.
Our message is plain and simple: If you want elected officials who dont brag about brutally killing their pets as part of their self-promotional book tour, then listen to our owners and vote Democrat, the Democratic National Committee said in a statement in the voice of their dogs on Friday, also pointing out Noems past controversial position on forcing child rape victims to carry pregnancies to term.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/04/28/kristi-noems-killing-of-her-puppy-slammed-across-parties-and-mocked-at-correspondents-dinner/?sh=3e56fa22631b
Cha
(298,049 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Still wanted to kill something. Saw puppers. So killed puppers. Successful trip!
chowder66
(9,105 posts)took it home and murdered it. Seems to me she made a lot of bad decisions when it came to her young victim.
As for the goat, well he smelled and knocked the kids over.
What really smells... is a woman with a gun in a bad mood.
Demsrule86
(68,808 posts)want to put my fingers in my ears and chant lalalalalal as we did as kids so as not to hear awful things. She is despicable...a monster really. Poor dog, I feel bad for her kids too...raising future mass murderers with her gun fetish and depraved behavior.
TheBlackAdder
(28,255 posts)Ocelot II
(115,987 posts)The fact that it's legal in SD to shoot dogs who kill livestock doesn't absolve her. The dog, who was still just a puppy, killed a few chickens and nipped at her, so Noem shot her - only because that was more convenient than training her or finding a new home for her. It demonstrates that to her the dog was nothing more than an object that had malfunctioned, and therefore could be disposed of like a faulty machine. Twenty years later she bragged about it in order to look tough (and maybe impress Trump enough with her casual cruelty that he'd choose her as his running mate). There are plenty of other terrible people for Trump to choose from, but I hope this takes her off the list.
calimary
(81,605 posts)If YOU dont do what she wants, are YOU next?
Paladin
(28,287 posts)If she's too dim to leave her dog-killing out of her book, then she's way too stupid for any further public service.
Voltaire2
(13,268 posts)From Romney to Noem the pattern is clear.
AZ8theist
(5,531 posts)...unless, of course, you're white and Evangelical. And male.
Voltaire2
(13,268 posts)protecting the beleaguered straight white christian majority from all those other (sub)humans, it is a selling point.
Everyone except Noem loves puppies.
ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)Don't forget that one, it's key!
senseandsensibility
(17,224 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(1,881 posts)Maybe someone from the ASPCA or PETA should pay her an unannounced visit. I just know she's abusing those poor animals.
Also, here's her "publisher," check out their other sterling authors:
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/imprint/center-street/
Good gawd.
AltairIV
(411 posts)Quite the selection of losers there.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)Looks like she's trying to be an Indian princess. Too bad she banned from all the reservations in South Dakota.
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Deuxcents
(16,452 posts)And dont destroy them or their environment. As mentioned, shes not welcome at all in their communities. Ugly is as ugly does and shes the definition of ugly.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)It's unusual to have to euthanize that many horses at once. I wonder what's going on on that farm.
Are there missing people? Maybe LE should check out the gravel pit.
Fla Dem
(23,887 posts)Secondly, he could have been put down peacefully at the vets, or have the vet come to your home/farm as I'm sure he does for livestock issue.
That's how you put down a PET. BUT NO you had to shoot him like the wild animals you shoot to show what a tough woman you are.
Your limp ass excuse couldn't have been any more heartless or ignorant.
LiberalFighter
(51,364 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,838 posts)yardwork
(61,793 posts)This is just b.s.
She didn't know how to/didn't bother to train a hunting dog puppy, lost her temper when the puppy misbehaved, dragged it to a gravel pit and shot it, then bragged about it.
Then, her blood lust aroused, she killed a goat because it had an attitude. She could have neutered the goat and solved the behavior problem but it was a lot more fun to kill it.
She sounds like a cruel, incompetent moron.
meadowlander
(4,413 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,168 posts)lastlib
(23,377 posts)They may need it more than the "kids" (young goats) ....I can almost feel sorry for them.
Abolishinist
(1,328 posts)the release of her 'book'. Now THAT would have been entertaining!
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,754 posts)brewens
(13,666 posts)puppy, just like that. Sheesh!
bringthePaine
(1,743 posts)dlk
(11,601 posts)Noem did this to herself. Her latest excuses are too little to late. She is a broken and vile person.
Kristi Noem is a monster. My God! How could she shoot a puppy?
ismnotwasm
(42,024 posts)Shes full of shit
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)You dont shoot a pet because you hate it. You have other options. You work with it. You get training. You find another, more suitable home for it.
What she is admitting here (giving her the most possible benefit of the doubt that I can muster) is that she faced a problem with a dog and she solved that problem using violence. Is that the way she solves every problem she faces?
Did I mention that I hate this bitch for hurting that dog? No amount of apologizing of explaining could ever be enough.
Ping Tung
(786 posts)She should stick to Teddy Bears. If they get "aggressive" she can shoot them and nobody will give a damn.
Grokenstein
(5,730 posts)I hope dim donnie picks you (although I doubt his handlers are so stupid) and you drag him down with you!
AverageOldGuy
(1,571 posts)First, the puppy was killing chickens.
Now it was biting people.
I think she was tired of dealing with a puppy so she shot it and made up an excuse.
Why write about it at all -- and include the story about wounding the goat, going back to the truck to get some more bullets, then killing the goat? Because she knows her audience -- the MAGAts will celebrate her dedication to the Sacred Second Amendment.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,912 posts)calimary
(81,605 posts)rurallib
(62,482 posts)So citing that as an example of leadership is pretty stupid.
Meat packing plants forced to stay open as workers were dying.
Is she like a death machine?
ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)If leading yout state through covid means denying it was a real problem and refusing to take sensible actions like quarantining and mask mandates, then I guess that was some real fine leadin' you did there, Kristi.
Problem is, a lot of us have a very different definition of "leadership."
KS Toronado
(17,466 posts)She first said something like the dog wasn't learning to be a good pointer for hunting so it was worthless,
now it's because it was biting people. If that was truly the case she would have said so in the book.
Just more repugnut lies.
miyazaki
(2,258 posts)OMGWTF
(3,993 posts)prodigitalson
(2,472 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,045 posts)Kristi both shot the dog and screwed the pooch...simultaneously. She's toast.
0rganism
(23,992 posts)Of course, there's some schadenfreude available for enthusiasts, but it doesn't sit well in my gut considering the topic.
RandySF
(59,772 posts)Vinca
(50,329 posts)them pick the dog up as an alternative to slaughtering it.
Kaleva
(36,403 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,419 posts)orwell
(7,781 posts)...protect a zygote, well because "JayZus tells me to..."
Shoot a living puppy or goat...no problem...dominion over the animals and all that.
After all...they don't have a soul.
The only thing without a soul here is this MagaMoron.
RIP Cricket...
no_hypocrisy
(46,311 posts)Marcuse
(7,561 posts)The red square highlights a gift from Noem. Its a replica of MT Rushmore with a fraudulent head tacked on.
ShazzieB
(16,646 posts)They both look nauseatingly pleased with themselves.
And the Mt. Rushmore thing? for sure!
Bucky
(54,094 posts)peggysue2
(10,851 posts)Nothing more to be said because, of course, being an "authentic" puppy killer makes all the difference.
Keep digging that hole, Governor.
Your legacy is now solid: An authentic puppy slayer who dumped said puppy's carcass into a gravel pit.
A true Profile in Courage.
You will NEVER be VP!
ColinC
(8,351 posts)Nuff said
orleans
(34,098 posts)In the book, Noem also writes that her family also owned a "nasty and mean" male goat that smelled bad and liked to chase her kids. She decided to go ahead and kill the goat, too. She writes that the goat survived the first shot, so she went back to the truck, got another shell, then shot him again, killing him.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristi-noem-dog-cricket-new-book-defense/
TexasBushwhacker
(20,255 posts)get him neutered, which was THEIR responsibility. He was chasing her kids? He should have been kept in a locked pen. Again, their responsibility.
As for the young dog, the decision to kill it was not a "tough decision" to be admired. It was rash. The dog could have been rehomed.
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)She says it wasn't an easy decision, that it was a painful challenge.
I say BULLSHIT. I say it was a damn easy decision for a gun-loving, blood-thirsty monster to pull that trigger.
Blue Owl
(50,581 posts)But she turned the gun on herself she will never live this down and essentially blew her own future in politics to smithereens .
Freethinker65
(10,110 posts)Thing is, she was stupid to blab about it in a tell all book.
Michael Cohen did it from the sideline in secret for Trump for over a decade.
bamagal62
(3,275 posts)Thats all we should say. You dont shoot a puppy. It was a friggin puppy.
intheflow
(28,521 posts)right Kristi? Also, who cares how old the story is? Makes her sound insane: Bring back the days when you could tell the world you were a puppy killer and no libtards fainted. 🙄 And then, the bit about the dogs aggression toward people! Perhaps if the dog had been raised with love instead of as disposable farm equipment it wouldnt have been aggressive. Telling on herself a thousand ways til Tuesday.
ecstatic
(32,786 posts)It's in your book, sweetie.
Your newly released book.
Idiot.
And even if you can spin Cricket's murder, you still have to justify killing that goat. It comes across like a "killing spree" that you had to hide because your kids were getting off the bus and some workers on site saw you. Psycho!
Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was nasty and mean, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled disgusting, musky, rancid and loved to chase Noems children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes.
Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she dragged him to a gravel pit, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down.
At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive and drop off Noems children.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book